Milk?

[NickeyV]

I just thought of something and wanted to ask can garter snakes drink milk like you know for calcium and all that stuff? Has anyone ever tried it before?

[EasternGirl]

I have never heard of a garter snake drinking milk...garters get their calcium from the bones they ingest in pinkies. If you feel that the snake is not getting enough calcium from pinkies there are supplements you can use...why do you feel that the snake needs calcium?

[NickeyV]

I have never heard of a garter snake drinking milk...garters get their calcium from the bones they ingest in pinkies. If you feel that the snake is not getting enough calcium from pinkies there are supplements you can use...why do you feel that the snake needs calcium?

Mine is fine on pinkies. I was just wondering and it just came to mind.

[chris-uk]

Milk wouldn't be a part of any garters diet, so I wouldn't give it to any of mine.
Someone could argue that most garters don't eat pinkies in the wild, but I think garters are opportunistic and if they came across a mouse nest with suitable sized prey they wouldn't turn down the meal. I couldn't see a garter ever drinking milk, they couldn't milk the cow (no opposable thumbs you see).

[ConcinusMan]

I wouldn't try it. They might lack the necessary enzymes to digest lactose. (milk sugar) Pinkies and/or whole fish, even if given infrequently, should provide enough calcium. Even earthworms are rich enough in calcium if they are "gut loaded", that is, full of what they eat.

[RedSidedSPR]

That's a new one.:)

[infernalis]

Whole fish have calcium in the skeletons as well.

Pinkies have a belly full of mouse milk, I would not risk giving cows milk. :)

[MasSalvaje]

I wouldn't try it. They might lack the necessary enzymes to digest lactose. (milk sugar) Pinkies and/or whole fish, even if given infrequently, should provide enough calcium. Even earthworms are rich enough in calcium if they are "gut loaded", that is, full of what they eat.

Good call Richard. The primary enzyme is lactase. Humans from a pastoral lineage have just recently (relatively speaking of course) evolved the ability to produce lactase as adults. In the majority of the worlds population humans stop producing lactase about the time they hit puberty. Other mammals also quit producing lactase at about the time they become sexually mature. If a Garter (or any animal that doesn't produce lactase) were to drink milk they wouldn't be able to break down the lactose and it would ferment in the gut causing major problems. Sorry for the bit of trivial info.

-Thomas

[infernalis]

Thomas, your trivial info as you called it is right on topic with our discussion. Good job.

[Light of Dae]

I couldn't see a garter ever drinking milk, they couldn't milk the cow (no opposable thumbs you see).

Haha but the rhythm in which they adjust their jaws would do the trick perfect! (For the right cow n teat that is, every cow is different) I used to live n work on a dairy farm lol I is Expert Teat Handler! ... No dirty joke intended... I am female... lol I couldn't resist.

[d_virginiana]

I doubt a garter would even drink milk. I mean, mine are sometimes intrigued by the smells when I happen to bring non-snake appropriate foodstuffs into their room, but once they investigate they just ignore it. Plus, like everyone else has said, it's probably not healthy for them.

[PINJOHN]

, they couldn't milk the cow (no opposable thumbs you see). as opposed to calf's which do have opposable thumbs :rolleyes::p

[chris-uk]

as opposed to calf's which do have opposable thumbs :rolleyes::p
Touché John. I see that my throwaway witisism had a significant flaw in the logic.

[kibakiba]

My logic is always flawed, but no one ever calls me out on it cause they know I'm totally not crazy.

[chris-uk]

My logic is always flawed,
OK.

but no one ever calls me out on it cause they know I'm totally not crazy.
That second part doesn't necessarily follow... Maybe it's just so that we don't clog the threads up too much? :D

[kibakiba]

I was being sarcastic ;)
I usually tone my sarcasm way down because no one understands my overly sarcastic nature in real life... They can't take a hint when I even use a very sarcastic tone in my voice.
But really, no one calls me out on it in real life or otherwise because I'm already the queen on ten thousand odd problems. ;)

[chris-uk]

I was being ironic and calling you out when nobody ever calls you out. :D

[kibakiba]

That's okay, you're just one person who's called me out. :D