vagrans

[BUSHSNAKE]

Thamnophis elegans vagrans-people with your ticklists put these on your list cuz more people need to have them, they are cool. Also captive breeding efforts of this species need to be increased

[BUSHSNAKE]

2011 captive bred pickeringii

[EasternGirl]

Nice pics!

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

joe the hypo looking one is one of the most beautiful vagrans I have ever seen.... make some more like that one and I am sure people would want to keep them more!!!

[Chondro788]

I like the vagrans!!! Put me on the list!!

[MasSalvaje]

Very cool Joe! I am glad vagrans are getting a little love, they really are very underated.

-Thomas

[BUSHSNAKE]

amen to that

[infernalis]

I really enjoy both of mine.

[ssssnakeluvr]

got tons of vagrans around here....got babies too if anyone is interested. that hypo is from southern Idaho.... Joe got his vagrans from me =)

[katach]

I've always wanted a hypo. They are so beautiful! Great snakes Joe!

[BUSHSNAKE]

thanks Kat, its not a hypo tho, just a pretty snake

[katach]

Boy I'll say!! I wish I had more room in the vivs. I would get one or two of those, and a couple natrix.

[ConcinusMan]

joe the hypo looking one is one of the most beautiful vagrans I have ever seen.... make some more like that one and I am sure people would want to keep them more!!!

Yeah, those are the ones I like. Whether it be easterns or vagrans. I like the light colored "hypo" looking ones with "pastel" colors.

[Stefan-A]

I will never get that whole fascination with colorless snakes.



Which one of these is the least ugly?

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/snakes2011/IMG_5765.jpg

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/snakes2011/suklaamumina-123805206.jpg

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/snakes2011/vagrans-july-02.jpg

They're all from the same clutch, by the way.

I haven't asked the current owners for permission to post these pictures. I know at least one of them visits this forum occasionally, so if the owner sees this, just let me know and I'll take your picture down.

[tress29]

Well, I like the one curled around the plant.

[BUSHSNAKE]

i like em all, those pictures put mine to shame...

[Stefan-A]

i like em all, those pictures put mine to shame...
I'd blame selective breeding, if I didn't know what their grandparents looked like.

[infernalis]

None of them are ugly at all, but if I had to chose only one, the darkest one wrapped around the plant would be my choice.

Lately I seem to be drawn more to the darker colours.

[ConcinusMan]

Not colorless, Stefan. Jeez. I just prefer the light colored ones with high contrast. This one of Don's (at least I think it's one of his) is appealing to me. Yours, not so much.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4VXrkZe4WmU/TM11bawkeDI/AAAAAAAAJ2c/iAhPvNWZmwI/s1600/normal+wondering+garter+snake.jpg

[Stefan-A]

Not colorless, Stefan. Jeez. I just prefer the light colored ones with high contrast. This one of Don's (at least I think it's one of his) is appealing to me. Yours, not so much.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4VXrkZe4WmU/TM11bawkeDI/AAAAAAAAJ2c/iAhPvNWZmwI/s1600/normal+wondering+garter+snake.jpg
But they are colorless and the contrast is low. That's the color that you get when you turn up the brightness and turn down the contrast and saturation.

This one here is another example of a colorless snake:
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/general-talk/9691-colorful-plains.html

[ConcinusMan]

Well whatever, you get my point. I like ones with cleaner light-colored base color and contrasting dark spots.