New ribbon pick up

[pauleve]

Hi guys just picked up this Thamnophis sauritus sackenii from a local reptile store.She was on sale as a western ribbon snake on the shops web site but I am sure she is Thamnophis sauritus sackenii. http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3448/cimg1536m.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/cimg1536m.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us) http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5776/cimg1537.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/cimg1537.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us) Not the best of pics to be sexing with but Hey ribbons never stay still :) http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/496/cimg1542e.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/cimg1542e.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us) http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5801/cimg1540q.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/64/cimg1540q.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us) Now all I need to do is find a mate over here

[chris-uk]

Nice find, you don't see much about ribbons over here. The eyes are a great colour, like little circles of amber.

[infernalis]

Nice find.

[EasternGirl]

Nice looking snake!

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful snake.
Sexing a ribbon for me is difficult as some of the other visual cues don't readily apply.
Most ribbons (male and female) are lean/slender which usually says male to me. In other species the female is usually bigger/thicker then the males. This is not always the case with Ribbons.
My first impression when I saw the tail photos is female.

So, I'm going with female unless I'm proven wrong.
If I am proven wrong then I change my answer to male :D

[infernalis]

Nice ambiguous reply Steve. :)

[guidofatherof5]

Nice ambiguous reply Steve. :)

Well, that is my middle name. Steve Ambiguous Gilfillan :D
Of course, I have been called a few other things in my time. ;)

[pauleve]

Thanks for the kind comments guys @ Chris ,That was the idea for buying her just hope a male appears over here .@ Steve hopefully if a male does appear over here I can prove she is female :) .She had probed female at the shop but after may last garter purchases when both were supposed to be fem and turned out to be a pair,Maybe I should be cautious .

[PINJOHN]

great snake, my own experience with ribbons goes back to when they were imported in reasonable numbers along side the garters in fact in some pet shops they were lumped in the same tank and sold under the general term of garter snake.
i attempted several times to keep them but met with little success, they just would not eat.
Shannon and several more members however report no problems with their ribbons and seem to think quite highly of them but theirs i think are captive bred.
looking at your pictures has wet my appetite to own one or more of these beautiful snakes so when i get back to Chris,s
thread i will be putting a ribbon on there, good luck with this little girl

EDIT hopefully with a number of more years experience and great advice at the end of my key board i can make a better job of it

[RedSidedSPR]

Awesome looking!

[BlueGarterz]

Very nice!

[chris-uk]

Thanks for the kind comments guys @ Chris ,That was the idea for buying her just hope a male appears over here .@ Steve hopefully if a male does appear over here I can prove she is female :) .She had probed female at the shop but after may last garter purchases when both were supposed to be fem and turned out to be a pair,Maybe I should be cautious .
I'll remember you're looking and pm you if I see any around. :-)

[Bart]

I'm pretty sure the only solid way to sex ribbons is to check their size. If it's longer than 45 cm, there's almost 100% certainty it's a female. ;)

[pauleve]

I'll remember you're looking and pm you if I see any around. :-)

Cheers Chris that would be good i'm a sucker for hard to get species :)

[pauleve]

I'm pretty sure the only solid way to sex ribbons is to check their size. If it's longer than 45 cm, there's almost 100% certainty it's a female. ;)

Will have to try and measure her tomorrow if she stays still lol

[chris-uk]

Cheers Chris that would be good i'm a sucker for hard to get species :)

I'll remember that when either John's or our T.e. cuitzeoensis reproduce, possibly only the two pairs in the country at the moment. John's might be ready next year, ours the following year. :)

[pauleve]

I'll remember that when either John's or our T.e. cuitzeoensis reproduce, possibly only the two pairs in the country at the moment. John's might be ready next year, ours the following year. :)

Have you seen Coast to Coast in Darlington have a list up on rfuk for various garters & ribbons .Presumably from Hamm

[chris-uk]

I'd not seen that, thanks for the heads up. Looks like there's going to be a few more T. Equis coming into the country. I think I'll find out a bit more about the shipment they are getting, given the timing Hamm would be the likely source. I'll have to keep my eye on Coast to Coast, although they're too far away for me to drop in. Have you bought from them before Paul?

[pauleve]

I'd not seen that, thanks for the heads up. Looks like there's going to be a few more T. Equis coming into the country. I think I'll find out a bit more about the shipment they are getting, given the timing Hamm would be the likely source. I'll have to keep my eye on Coast to Coast, although they're too far away for me to drop in. Have you bought from them before Paul?

Yup had lizards and atb off them before .They are pretty good .had the misfortune of ordering an atb from one of their shipments that died on me two days after pick up and they refunded me straight away .I find that if you treat others as you would expect to be treated you cant go wrong and they have the same values.I have asked about prices for the red lined ribbons