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Mrs N1ntndo
10-19-2011, 01:09 AM
I want to undersstand this a little better cause I hear it a lot. How come when people are talking about the babies and they usally say I cant wait til the 6 months mark. Why is that? Is it because thats when the "childhood" problems are not really to be worried about any more? I just want to clear up and understand why people say this? Please help me understand. Thank you all.

guidofatherof5
10-19-2011, 05:47 AM
I know I've used those words before.
I've always looked at 6 months as a time when the chances of these babies having problems significantly diminish.
Especially when your talking about "failure to thrive".
I really stop my worrying at 1 year.

Kantar
10-19-2011, 07:39 AM
I wish the 6 month mark came sooner, I just got a worry yesterday and worry of the fate of my 2 new checkereds

I switched a water dish for one a little bigger, the dish had some poop in it but I just left it, but I left the waterdish with some water left in it just sitting there, a week or so later the dish has like 15-20 small worms in it. Now I'm worried

I really hope it was some sort of fly or something. Maybe I should try it again, wait till they poop in their dish and then take it out and leave it for a bit

guidofatherof5
10-19-2011, 07:40 AM
Any chance of us seeing these worms?

Kantar
10-19-2011, 07:43 AM
yeah, I tried taking pictures last night, I still have them in that dish

I'll see if I can snap a very clear shot of one of them

guidofatherof5
10-19-2011, 07:47 AM
That would be great. Thanks.;)

Kantar
10-19-2011, 09:24 AM
just to research ahead of time, what are some deworming meds? try to list all you can because I'm not sure if certain ones will be available here in manitoba

guidofatherof5
10-19-2011, 09:39 AM
I use Panacur.

Fenbendazole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenbendazole)

Kantar
10-19-2011, 03:44 PM
I just noticed them yesterday. Keep in mind that this dish was out of the tank for almost 2 weeks. So I can't 100% suspect the garters yet


http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/314637_10150423871254359_525334358_10265412_170449 1883_n.jpg

guidofatherof5
10-19-2011, 04:06 PM
They sure don't look like any pinworms or flatworms I've ever seen.
I think I would try to get a Vet. to ID them.
If that can't be done I would treat the snake/s as if they have a parasite issue.
Just my opinion.;)

guidofatherof5
10-19-2011, 04:22 PM
What kind of substrate are you using?

aSnakeLovinBabe
10-19-2011, 04:25 PM
those are fly larvae. I ahve had that happen to me before.. for instance if you drop a fish into a bowl for a snake but the snake does not eat it, and the fish dies and you don't catch it right away, it doesn't take long at ALL for the only little fruit fly in your entire house to magically find that particular bowl and drop eggs into it. A lot of times when I am swapping bowls out and changing water if I have a soiled one I will set it on a shelf I have to be cleaned after i am done (I have spare bowls and i rotate in clean ones) Sometimes i will forget I put it there, and then this will happen sometimes... The amount of time the old dish was left to sit was MORE than enough time for that to happen.

kibakiba
10-19-2011, 04:36 PM
It does look kind of like fruit fly larvae to me. I would know, too... I have tons of fruitfly maggots (breeding fruitflies for my frogs)

Hazeldarc
10-19-2011, 06:16 PM
so are you suppose to deworm all snakes?

guidofatherof5
10-19-2011, 06:23 PM
Some keepers do and some don't until a parasite is found.
For the most part C/B snakes probably don't need it(depending on the diet they were fed)
I think(my opinion) any wild caught snake should at least have fecal float don't to see if parasites are present.

Hazeldarc
10-19-2011, 06:29 PM
what is fecal float?

guidofatherof5
10-19-2011, 06:37 PM
Sorry. You take a fecal sample to a Vet. They mix it with water, filter it, spin it and top off the test tube. They then put a microscope slide on top of the test tube and let it sit. Any parasite eggs and other nasties float to the top. After the right amount of time they remove the slide and place a slide cover on it. Then they look at it under a microscope and look for eggs, nematodes, etc.
Fecal flotation for detecting parasite burdens in faeces. (http://www.pet-informed-veterinary-advice-online.com/fecal-flotation.html)
Fecal Float Parasite Pictures Gallery. (http://www.pet-informed-veterinary-advice-online.com/fecal-float.html)

Hazeldarc
10-19-2011, 06:48 PM
cool ty

luke.B
10-19-2011, 06:59 PM
It looks just like the worms i just found in one of my snakes water dish recently. so i am treating some of my snakes for worms but now that i am thinking about it. i had some bananas go bad and there was some fruit flies around the trash wen i took it out right before it happen. and i also thought it was weird because there was a lot of them in there. and the snakes tank that it was in all seamed in good health and put on the wight real good.

luke.B
10-19-2011, 07:06 PM
It looks just like the worms i just found in one of my snakes water dish recently. so i am treating some of my snakes for worms but now that i am thinking about it. i had some bananas go bad and there was some fruit flies around the trash wen i took it out right before it happen. and i also thought it was weird because there was a lot of them in there. and the snakes tank that it was in all seamed in good health and put on the wight real good.

d_virginiana
10-19-2011, 07:09 PM
Happens in my frog's cage all the time when crickets die. If you leave poo or dead food around for more than five minutes even in the middle of winter, a fruit fly will magically appear so that it can spawn in your reptile enclosure :p

PINJOHN
10-20-2011, 02:53 AM
I think you have nailed it with the fruit fly's, i used to keep a wider variety of reps some lizards and more amphibians than i do now and usually had several wingless fruit fly cultures on the go, the problem was the wingless cultures would occasionally die off unexpectedly, but the wild flying type could be expected to turn up without fail as if appearing from another dimension [oops there go,s my over active imagination again] all they were intent on doing was finding somewhere to host their pesky eggs/maggots, yes they are actually maggots as apposed to worms

kibakiba
10-20-2011, 10:41 AM
They die off unexpectedly because they only have a lifespan of 7-10 days. If they hatch all at once, they may die all at once.

Mommy2many
10-20-2011, 05:30 PM
I hate fruit flies.
Almost as much as I hate pantry moths. (which by the way, I finally found the source of and obliterated).
And Jesse, I did not use my dyson in the end!

kibakiba
10-20-2011, 05:38 PM
I also hate them, but the wingless and flightless ones are okay... as long as they're only in the vial... Or my frog's belly :D

Mommy2many
10-20-2011, 05:39 PM
These have been hovering around me and the computer.

kibakiba
10-20-2011, 05:42 PM
I clap my hands over them softly to knock them out, then put them in a cleaned out altoids tin.... I save them for a later time when I don't have food for my frogs ;)