View Full Version : "Taming" a wild caught garter
nekura
09-22-2011, 06:09 PM
I was wondering what the best way would be to get my wild caught baby garters used to me. They're fine with moving around until I open their cage or put my hand in then they go into hiding mode. I've left them alone for about a week to let them cope, but when should I start handling them regularly and what is the best way to do so to make friends with them? They're very young.
kibakiba
09-22-2011, 06:15 PM
When you open the top, that's where predators usually approach. One thing I have done with my two scardy concinnus is putting my hand in the tank and not moving. They will come sniff you and eventually they'll get used to your hand. Let them come to you, do not force interaction with them.
infernalis
09-22-2011, 06:28 PM
Here's what I do, leave them alone except for feeding time.
As they grow up, they will calm down significantly.
guidofatherof5
09-22-2011, 06:38 PM
I do as Chantel does. They are curious and want to know everything. After awhile you can offer some food when you hand is in there.
When you're starting out many times they will crawl right through you hand. They will test you to see what you are going to do.
It takes a while for them to trust the big giant things.
Then there are those that seem to trust immediately.;)
Mrs N1ntndo
09-22-2011, 09:00 PM
This is my first time raising babies(eastern garter) and I only left them completly alone (23 of them) for 2 days. Then I released all but 7. From then on I would hold them. Let them wrap around my fingers and all that but I would slightly hold them so they couldnt jump. Thats just what I did and the 7 I had stayed calm or had gotten even calmer if they were more hyper. They are now some of the sweetest and coolest little things. They are almost 2 months old( wow time flies, seems like they wer just born) anyway, they are awesome. 3 of them now I let them slither around my fingers still and I dont have to hold them. I know they wont try to exscape. They used to jump when I would reach in there tank cause mine opens from the top also. Now when I open it if there awake they just look up at me. If they were sleeping when I did it that would be the only time they would jump and slither away but that doesnt happen much. They love to interact. There calm as calm can be and I love it. Thats just my opinion.
d_virginiana
09-22-2011, 10:19 PM
I think hand feeding is probably my favorite way to make friends with a new snake. If they associate you with food they'll start watching for you to come in the room pretty quickly. Other than that, I mainly just do what Chantel said. Sometimes with my little one I would tap the end of her tail to get her moving (but not panicking) and get her to just crawl over my hand. idk if it made a difference or not, but she was letting me hold her after about 3 days.
Serpico
09-22-2011, 10:25 PM
I have discovered, with a snake caught in the wild, not a garter, but one much more elusive and shy, that if I stay at his eye level I will be much less intimidating.
So his viv was placed high on a shelf, and the opening was in front of it, a bit like the viv I am using for my two garters.
It took 5 months, to trust me, at the beginning he spent all his time into hiding, exiting the cave only when no one was at home, then slowly, getting out a bit more often (I guess he grew bored....).
At the end, he went straight into my hand, the little fellow...
JUst try not to look like a predator and it will help a lot. Like Steve said, move very slowly, or not at all..
nekura
09-22-2011, 11:03 PM
When you open the top, that's where predators usually approach. One thing I have done with my two scardy concinnus is putting my hand in the tank and not moving. They will come sniff you and eventually they'll get used to your hand. Let them come to you, do not force interaction with them.
This is the exact method I had used to tame a feral kitten (don't laugh, that thing tore through fingernails!). I just never thought a snake would go for the attention.
Thanks for all the input guys. Seems there's quite a different number of methods. As it is these girls aren't shy about coming out, only when the top is removed. I do handle them for cage cleaning, but that's about it. I may just keep my hand in their awhile and see what they do, though I think they're catching on that me=food.
kibakiba
09-23-2011, 03:28 AM
Another thing I do with Snap (one of the scardy concinnus) is, when she calms down and lets me hold her, I keep some small bits of food with me. I usually keep food that she really likes, like salmon, and a little bit of worm pieces. I giver her these when she stays calm while holding, or if she's just being overall "good". Good for me is no biting, musking, hissing and trying to get away. IMO it's like positive reinforcement. Also, I only put her back in the tank if she's being good for the last 5 minutes of our little "sessions". I've had Snap for a year and she's still scared of me. She knows I give food, because I hand fed her for the first 4 months.
RedSidedSPR
09-23-2011, 01:49 PM
I do all of the above. Interacting without touching is good, food always helps, and the one time I usually pick them up, is with food, and they'll see it as a good thing.
snakehill
09-24-2011, 11:27 AM
I have had my WC since August 8th and I still haven't been able to handle her! She freaks and tries to flee when I try to! I have tried the hand in the tank thing but it hasn't worked! She is a nut! maybe she is a HE!:p
RedSidedSPR
09-24-2011, 11:30 AM
Hey!:D
Try hand feeding. That helped my WC adult more than anything. It took 7 months but now he's very calm and trusting. And big.:p
snakehill
09-24-2011, 11:36 AM
She took a nightcrawler off the tongs twice then stopped. Since then I've had to put them in dish with dirt or just throw them in the tank!;)
RedSidedSPR
09-24-2011, 11:39 AM
I would touch mine a few times without taking him out, he didn't really like it (at all) but it got him used to me touching him.
snakehill
09-24-2011, 11:42 AM
Hey!:D
Try hand feeding. That helped my WC adult more than anything. It took 7 months but now he's very calm and trusting. And big.:p 7 months?? :eek: So by the spring when I plan to release her she will be tame?? :rolleyes:
RedSidedSPR
09-24-2011, 11:49 AM
7 months to get to the way he is now, perfectly tame, but not that long to stop freaking out. But it took awhile.
nekura
09-25-2011, 09:00 PM
Wow they're growing fast. I've got one who will come out, sit halfway on my hand for a bit before retreating back to her den.
I thought it was a bad idea to have them associate your hand with food? Or is that just with pythons? :p
I've also decided to name the youngest Selene. The oldest we called Snakey but now that we know gender maybe Scylla.
kibakiba
09-25-2011, 09:33 PM
Its good when they associate you with food, because they will come to understand that you provide the food and shelter. It helps them to trust you.
RedSidedSPR
09-26-2011, 07:01 AM
Yeah it's just for those big dumb clueless pythons.:p
No disrespect intended to pythons.:D
kibakiba
09-26-2011, 08:44 AM
It's not their fault! ;) I'm pretty sure they cant really tell the difference. Since garters can technically see us, they get to know your face... It seems that way, at least. Every time I cut my hair, try a new style, put a different kind of makeup on, they don't seem to recognize me.
RedSidedSPR
09-26-2011, 08:48 AM
Me too, got a haircut, my snakes panicked.
nekura
10-01-2011, 10:55 PM
It's not their fault! ;) I'm pretty sure they cant really tell the difference. Since garters can technically see us, they get to know your face... It seems that way, at least. Every time I cut my hair, try a new style, put a different kind of makeup on, they don't seem to recognize me.
All you damn humans look the same!
Haha but on a serious I've been forcing hand holding sessions which they don't really like... they are both now eating frozen salmon which is great. Might have to just take things slower and do the hand feeding bit.
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