captive bred ordinoes?

[Starling96]

anybody breed them?
or know of someone that does

[guidofatherof5]

I just had a small group born. They are all still adjusting.

[kibakiba]

I have bred them... And the mom is possible gravid again. Not many people do breed them due to the fact it's a bit iffy... They can retain sperm for a long time, and a lot of the time, they wont get gravid immediately after mating, it could take months for her to choose to be gravid.

[katach]

I have 8 babies right now. They still need to eat and get bigger. They will need homes when they are ready though.

[Starling96]

oh cool
i know someone on another forum who wants some

[katach]

Do you know where they live?

[Starling96]

nope
she used to be a member here though

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Stay tuned, because I have a HOT pair of red stripes I'll be attempting to breed.

[Mrs N1ntndo]

Im sorry but Im confused what are ordinoes? Someoe please post pics so I know what is talked about thatnk you.

[RedSidedSPR]

Northwestern garter snakes.

[katach]

Do you know where they live?

I ask because I'm a little nervous shipping. I will wait until fall to ship, but I have never shipped reptiles. This is our first clutch ever.

[Starling96]

yea
when i do start breeding ill hate shipping lol

[katach]

Maybe I can find someone around me that is on the forum and has shipped snakes to show me so I'm not as nervous.

[katach]

Is your friend still interested in getting a baby?

[Starling96]

I dont think so
She said she really really wanted a pair but then said i meant i wasnt wanting anything soon lol
i might be intereted in the future though

[katach]

ok, Blade and Snakey (Chantel's little boy) will be hooking up soon, so we'll hopefully have another bunch coming.

[kibakiba]

Yeah, hopefully they have a nice litter! Him and Mama created some beautiful babies last time. :D

[Starling96]

awesome ill needa save up because my funds were recently depleted lol

[kibakiba]

I doubt they'd be very expensive ;)
Kat is the one with the momma, so she'd name the price, but I know for a fact that Kat is a very fair person. :)

[Starling96]

haha yea from what ive seen i agree
Are your guys nw's pretty interactive?

[katach]

They are very sweet. They love to be held and have great personalities! They have very sweet little faces too!

[Starling96]

They are very cute little guys :D

[katach]

I'm really hoping that Blade and Snakey can produce at least a few red stripes. I know that it's a coin toss, but I'm hoping that since they are both reds they might have better chances.

[Starling96]

yea
i personally like the more patterned look
i thinks its because my ribbons are so "uniform" if u know what i mean

[katach]

3 of my current NW babies are really darkly patterned. They are very pretty. The one with the best markings is my entry to this months photo contest.

[kibakiba]

I like my NWs, they really seem to seek interaction with me and when they're being held they love to check everything out. Not all of them are sweet, though... Hades, for example, is a jerk. :D

[katach]

Thus the name... :D

[Starling96]

lol good snake, bad snake, ugly snake, i love them all
is the pic entered now?

[kibakiba]

Yeah, his name really fits him. I wouldn't mind it if he didn't change, though. He can be as nippy as he wants to as long as he's healthy and happy.

[Starling96]

yea
i thing im gunna name my baby ribbon bolt because he like bolts across the tank if i walk in the room but my big ribbon still doesnt have a name after 2 months
wanna help me come up with one? he handles well and is shy in the cage and will sleep on his log lol

[katach]

is the pic entered now?

Yes, it's the 2nd entry for this month.

I'll help name your ribbon!

[kibakiba]

What colour is he?

[Starling96]

Awesome
and thanks
he pretty cool
hes very very blue
eventually i will get pics of them and there cage

[katach]

Ujo? (Shy in Finnish)

[kibakiba]

Blár, its Icelandic for blue. :D
Kék, Hungarian for blue, also. I thought they sounded kind of cool... ;)

[Starling96]

i like the name blar but i like blair alot too lol
i thought it would be harder to find a name :D
thanks guys!

[ConcinusMan]

I just had a small group born. They are all still adjusting.

Adjusting to what? Nevermind. Don't answer.


Im sorry but Im confused what are ordinoes? Someoe please post pics so I know what is talked about thatnk you.

It's Thamnophis ordinoides, not "ordinoes". Northwestern Garter snake. And I've had plenty of babies born and also gave away and sold the last of my adults recently. I no longer have any. Although I can catch them, in order to do well in captivity they need to get eating (sometimes a challenge) and dewormed and I don't have time or space for that. Shannon has Miss Piggy, my red striped girl to hopefully breed with her red stripe male. Steve has a group of adults I gave to him. Apparently some babies have been born. I doubt he'll want to part with them. If I wasn't selling all my snakes and moving I could probably get you some. I don't know of anyone else on the forum that can do this for you. You'll probably have to wait for litters next year, if any at all are born. Wouldn't do any good to show you just one picture since no two are exactly alike.

Northwestern Garter Snake:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z279/TricolorBrian/northwestern-gartersnake-polymorphi.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

NW are awesome.

[ConcinusMan]

We do have quite a few newer members lately that live in the NW and keep them. Maybe some of these people can learn to ship and perhaps take over with the providing spemimens to the rest of the forum members who don't have access to them. Bottom line is, very few litters are born in captivity, and litters are very small so CB babies aren't widely available. However, if someone lives where they do, they can catch them, screen them, and perhaps provide specimens that do well and eat well. Many have to be released because they don't adjust.

I just can't provide this service any longer.

[kibakiba]

Kat and I have a breeding project, Richard, so it's okay. :p

[katach]

And I'm very excited to see how it turns out!!

[kibakiba]

As am I, Snakey's a ladies man, so you wont have to worry about getting any viagra for him... :D Oh, and I got him eating again... So I'll be fattening him up a bit.

[katach]

Well that's good I wouldn't what dose to give a snake! LMAO :D

[kibakiba]

Haha! If you gave him a whole pill, he'd be courting everything, inanimate or not. :D

[katach]

Oh, my!! Let's not do that then... :D

[RedSidedSPR]

And I'm very excited to see how it turns out!!

Me too, if it works like you both think, that would be freaking awesome.

[katach]

I have no idea if it will work or not, I'm just hoping to produce at least a couple reds. That would be way cool!

[RedSidedSPR]

Keep in mind, like alot of "morphs", (not that they're morphs) they may be normal looking as babies.

[katach]

Ok, thanks!

[RedSidedSPR]

Crap sorry, i meant normal looking as BABIES!!!! I edited.

[katach]

Oh, ok. I wonder if any of the babies I have now will turn out red?

[RedSidedSPR]

I doubt it.

But If you look at "orange" easterns, flames, and most morphs they won't look like much as babies, then they color up to the most amazing snake you've seen!

[katach]

One can wish!

[kibakiba]

Well, NWs are blanked out as babies, they could look like a piece of long skinny mold and grow up to be grey with a red or blue stripe. You wouldn't expect to see a black, white and blue baby from a black/orange x brown/white.

[ConcinusMan]

That's true. Baby northwesterns are nothing compared to what they are when they color up. As they mature, the color they're going to be, then makes itself apparent. You can't even begin to guess what they will look like when they're babies. 6-12 months old and starts to become apparent but they continue to change. "blanked out" is a good description. They're generally born very plain and inconspicuous. The colors come in later. Some of the babies born from my red stripe girl began to develop red in their stripes, spotty at first, at around 5 months old. But not all of them did, and even at a year old, they continue to change.

[kibakiba]

Yeah, Hades is about 2 (based on his size) and he's changing every day... His black is getting darker and his orange is coming in.

[d_virginiana]

My blue eastern didn't have even a hint of his blue color (or any color) until he was over a year old, but now he's a very vibrant blue green. As a baby he just looked like a strip of tire rubber :p Are there any types that start out really bright and vibrant, like mini versions of the adults?

[kibakiba]

Well, Runt has stayed the same and she's 1 year away from being an adult. She was a year old when I caught her, though... I've had thumbelina since birth and he's stayed the same for the most part, he's losing his dorsal stripe.