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RedSidedSPR
08-08-2011, 08:10 AM
I've always thought snakes relied mostly on smell, due to poor eyesight. I mean, they still probably don't have great eyesight, but the things I've noticed seem to say they have better than I thought.
I got a haircut few weeks ago. Not a huge difference in my appearance, but enough of one.
When anyone approaches either of my tanks, my snakes run and hide. Any of my family, any one visiting, anyone.
If I approach it, they come to the glass. And you can't say thats smell.
When I came back from the haircut, my snakes panicked. I'm talking, jumping up in the air and smacking into the glass :eek:
Was it that bad? I thought she did pretty good...:rolleyes:
My anery came out hesitantly, and smelled my hand. Realized it was me, and was back to normal. The rest saw that, and were back to normal.
At any time of day, I can pick up my feeding tongs, and hold it 2 feet away from the cage. Any that can see it, go into feeding mode. They all come out, come to the glass, check the water bowl, act like they do when I have food.
Only the feeding tongs. If I hold anything else of the same size and color, no reaction.
Same thing if I put a paper towel on the desk and lay scissors one it. No food involved, just them seeing the stuff.
Only the ones that see it though.
Just to name a few.
Has anyone else noticed anything like that?
PINJOHN
08-08-2011, 08:23 AM
I seem to remember Steve reporting something similar when he one time approached the vivs without wearing his glasses [you cant blame the snakes not a pretty sight even with his glasses on] :D
guidofatherof5
08-08-2011, 08:29 AM
I think they had good eyesight.
Better than I ever imagined. Noticing detail in things I would have never thought they could.
Noticing the difference when I didn't have my glasses on.
I'm getting ready to shave much of my beard off.
It will be interesting to how and if they react.
guidofatherof5
08-08-2011, 08:30 AM
I seem to remember Steve reporting something similar when he one time approached the vivs without wearing his glasses [you cant blame the snakes not a pretty sight even with his glasses on] :D
I must concur with that statement.:D
And they love me anyway;)
RedSidedSPR
08-08-2011, 08:36 AM
Yeah I just found that post. That's pretty much how mine reacted, only not as panicky.
d_virginiana
08-08-2011, 11:34 AM
I've noticed a big difference in Houdini's behavior over the past year or so, and I think it's because his eyesight is going. He's still totally healthy, but you can tell he has a hard time homing in on prey items and freaks out if anything puts a shadow over his head. In fact, he won't take a pinky unless I've cut open a small portion of it and hand it to him with the cut part facing his mouth. In addition, he goes crazy and seems to lose his orientation if I change the layout of his cage; he's okay with new environments when I'm holding him, but doesn't like for his secure 'home' to change one bit.
But this has made me wonder just how much their sense of smell can compensate for bad eyesight. For example, he comes out to greet me whenever I walk into the room, and when we first brought Harley home he knew there was a new snake around the minute the door opened. Harley on the other hand acts totally differently and responds to way more visual cues than Houdini. I wonder if his sense of smell has become stronger as his vision fades?
RedSidedSPR
08-08-2011, 12:23 PM
Well, I definatly think they use their eyesight a more than some may think. I starting to think my flame has worse eyesight.... He does some of the things Houdini does.. misses strikes, etc... it's weird...
and when we first brought Harley home he knew there was a new snake around the minute the door opened.:p
Oh heck yeah, you should seen my adult when I brought my anery home!
As I can tell, garters are way inteligent than any other reptiles. It's because they are opportunistic feeders. Any opportunistic feeders are more inteligent, that specialised one.
RedSidedSPR
08-08-2011, 02:31 PM
And more fun.:D mouse a week, pfft. Boring.:p
I totally agree.
Starling96
08-09-2011, 08:52 AM
my guys freak out when when i turn off both of there lights at the same time
the both swim around when i do
RedSidedSPR
08-09-2011, 09:01 AM
Mine do the same thing with light...
kibakiba
08-09-2011, 09:25 AM
Imagine a light suddenly come on when you don't expect it. That is what it feels like for them.
RedSidedSPR
08-09-2011, 09:26 AM
Yeah exactly. Not saying its weird or anything.
ConcinusMan
09-04-2011, 05:07 PM
Garter snakes have excellent eyesight, mainly for movement, but sometimes their depth perception isn't all that great. Albinos sometimes have poor eyesight.
kibakiba
09-04-2011, 05:19 PM
Can you explain Runt's horrible eyesight? :p She bumps into everything if the enclosure gets changed. She thinks everything is food if it gets into contact with her mouth, too.
Mrs N1ntndo
09-09-2011, 02:48 PM
Is Runt blind or just bad eyesight?
kibakiba
09-09-2011, 02:52 PM
Very bad eyesight. She can see, just has a hard time seeing. She does bump into things, but it seems like she recognizes my hand at least a little bit.
ConcinusMan
09-09-2011, 02:54 PM
Can you explain Runt's horrible eyesight? :p
Sure, let me see if I can break down for you.
She doesn't see well.
kibakiba
09-09-2011, 02:57 PM
:rolleyes:
"Garters have excellent eyesight"
No, not always. That's why I said that.
ConcinusMan
09-09-2011, 03:04 PM
No, not always. That's why I said that.
I think we already established that. A lot people don't see well. I would still say "humans have good eyesight"
kibakiba
09-09-2011, 03:09 PM
No, humans have bad eyesight. Many of them fail to see anything. :rolleyes:
d_virginiana
09-09-2011, 04:11 PM
They do have wonderful hindsight though. :p
ConcinusMan
09-09-2011, 04:44 PM
No, humans have bad eyesight. Many of them fail to see anything. :rolleyes:
People only see what they believe is possible. What they expect to see and therefore it's all they are looking for. If they see something other than that with their own eyes, they don't believe it. They can't believe it. Must protect the superego at all costs. The superego must be correct at all times. Must have validity of self. Otherwise, nothing else "computes" the concious mind "computer" crashes, and one becomes insane. It's just one of the hazards of a self-aware mind.
It's either this blind spot, or no self awareness. A fair trade off.
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