Ranch News

[ProXimuS]

Nice! Lucky save! I like how spotty she looks:)

[EasternGirl]

Lovely snake pics! I have decided that Tank is actually a dog wearing a turtle suit. Look closely for a zipper somewhere on him. :D

[guidofatherof5]

Lovely snake pics! I have decided that Tank is actually a dog wearing a turtle suit. Look closely for a zipper somewhere on him. :D

He does have many dog-like qualities.;)

[guidofatherof5]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Tank_the_man.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

*Update*

She is a he. Just never checked until today. He's a handsome lite phase green T.radix.


I thought I would introduce this beautiful lite phase green radix. She is growing up with the B/W.
As you can see she's enjoying a nice night crawler.
She has a wonderful clean pattern and will do well here at the Ranch.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/light_green_phase.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

I woke Tank (Chelydra Serpentina-Common Snapping Turtle) up this evening and put him on the scale.
He's broken the 15 lb mark and then some 15.21 lbs.
Looks like 20 lbs by Christmas is well in sight.
Tank got a drink and chowed down on 12 oz. of round steak.
It is a pure pleasure having him as part of the family.

Dang. He got weighed, got a drink, ate his dinner and is back in bed already. 15 minutes tops.
Tank does live the life.

[guidofatherof5]

Here's Speckle just hanging around.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/speckle_hanging.jpg

[ProXimuS]

Pun definitely intended?:D Thats a really cool picture!

[Selkielass]

Gorgeous! So glad Tank is thriving.

[guidofatherof5]

Tank continues to grow and is doing so well socially with everyone he meets. He's never shown any aggression towards anyone.
I can't tell you how wonderful it is to have this type of relationship with such an awesome and misunderstood animal.
He is not on auto pilot. He is a thinking machine and I believe is intelligent.
The second photo is for Mike who is also raising a snapper (Panzer). As you can see Mike there is no mistaking Tank is a male. The cloaca is set very far back from the shell line.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank161.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tank_tail.jpg

[mikem]

Thanks for the photo Steve! Panzer's cloaca is pretty much even with the shell. So, at this point, I'm about 110% sure she is female.. give or take a percentage. ;) A few days ago, I saw a photo of a snapper for sale that appeared to be a bit smaller than my Panzer (a hand was in the pic for size reference). The person had posted a shot of the bottom of the turtle, including the tail and it was obviously a male. The cloaca was much lower than Panzer's. Great post :)

[guidofatherof5]

Whenever I get into Speckle's enclosure our dog Lucy comes and watches over the proceedings.
Speckle doesn't like Lucy and usually tries to bite her nose.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/speckle_lucy.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Ranch Helpers

The other day I needed to do some work on the big female radix enclosure. I was replacing the hinge protector and replacing the static screen with a removable one.
Replacing the hing protector came first. This meant using a electric staple gun. While using it most of the girls came down to see what was going on.
The staple gun going off didn't phase them a bit. No startle response or jumpiness.
It's really amazing at how calm they can become.
Pulling the old screen off gave these girls a chance to inspect the job as it progressed.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/so_helpful.jpg

[angrygamer]

ahaha you have a plaque made for them and everything, what, do you have showings?

I know what you mean by calmness, I think it's a good sign of trust.

[guidofatherof5]

ahaha you have a plaque made for them and everything, what, do you have showings?

I know what you mean by calmness, I think it's a good sign of trust.

I usually get a couple visitors a month.

[angrygamer]

oh wow, I didn't know!

[guidofatherof5]

Just how quickly can these radixes relax and adapt to Ranch life.
90 days ago I found a beautiful female radix outside. I decided to keep her so into quarantine she went.
During this time I fed and water her but didn't spend any hands on time with her.
On day 91 I removed her and put her in with some big females to get her acclimated to the system here at the Ranch.
Approximately 30 minutes later I returned to that enclosure with some food for the residents.
I was greeted by everyone including this new female. She approached me, took food and allowed me to touch her, even rub her neck. I was also able to pick her up without any issues. It's as if she has been raised here or even born here.
Radixes are amazing snakes. I love every aspect of keeping them.

[guidofatherof5]

Yesterday, I spotted our girl Lucky not looking too happy. She was rough looking so I figured she was due to shed.
A few minutes ago I spotted her and snapped this photo. The shed was off te top of her head and loose on the lower jaw.
I helped her complete the shed. She is the most calm of all the radixes I have.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//628/medium/lucky_shed_12.jpg

[ProXimuS]

Way to go Lucky! She has such a pretty radix face:)

[EasternGirl]

Hi there Lucky! Pretty girl!

[guidofatherof5]

Here we have a group of hungry young radixes waiting for the dinner bell to ring.
Such good kids.:D

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/good_eaters.jpg

[snake man]

I love the photos like that.

[ProXimuS]

That's adorable!

[guidofatherof5]

I have some very sad news to report. My one and only non-garter has passed away.
Her name was Helen(Elaphe vulpina-Fox Snake) and she was blind. She spent the last couple years of her life with me.
She was a sweet girl. I always enjoyed her company.
She lived a very hard life before coming to the Ranch and I hope she was comfortable here.
I think her passing was probably from age.
R.I.P. Helen.

[EasternGirl]

I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm sure that Helen had a wonderful life once she was on the ranch with you. Glad you could give her the love and care she deserved for the last years of her life. Rest in peace, Helen.

[ProXimuS]

I'm very sorry to hear of your loss:( I'm glad she was able to live out her last years at the ranch.

[Invisible Snake]

I'm sorry for your loss :(

[Mommy2many]

I'm so sorry to hear of her passing.

[jitami]

So sorry to hear about Helen Steve...

[ConcinusMan]

Sorry to hear about that Steve. I can't think of a better place for her to spend her last days. I thought you had a hypomelanistic bull snake and/or some king snakes too though?

[guidofatherof5]

All the big snakes were re-homed a couple months ago.
I want to concentrate on Thamnophis but I promised to keep Helen with me no matter what.

[katach]

Awwww Steve, I'm so sorry. :(

[mikem]

Sorry to hear about the loss of Helen. I'm more than certain she had the best life possible on the ranch.

[Light of Dae]

Helen Rest in Peace. Sure she had the best life n time possible at the ranch. I'm sure she was grateful for everything you did.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Sorry for your loss steve.

[kueluck]

It's sad to see a friend go, but to go because of old age, that in a strange way is a blessing. She had a good retirement plan with you.

[guidofatherof5]

Time for some good news.

The 2012 Snapper Fest has been cancelled. This is a festival where the contestants grab snapping turtles by their necks and swing them around.
Arav – Snapperfest 2012 Canceled (http://www.arav.org/news-events/snapperfest-2012-canceled/)

What a horrible event perpetrated on an animal that just wants to be left alone.
I would certainly be arrested if I where at the event. These type of events make me embarrassed to be a human.

[Selkielass]

Whoah. People are nuts.
This event is even less funny than that *joke* on twitter about purposely running over a box turtle.
I hope it really is cancelled.

[HazAnga]

What the heck is the ministry when this activity was happening.! I know they can be scary to some people, but to grab them by the neck and swing them around?

[ProXimuS]

Glad it's been cancelled...It's just another way for idiots to say "Look at me, I can overpower a creature that's smaller than me, and wants nothing to do with me.":rolleyes:

[Light of Dae]

I would certainly be arrested if I where at the event. These type of events make me embarrassed to be a human.

I'd end up arrested too... As well I'd bring a very big friend of mine who'd love to pick up the 'contestants' n swing them around from there head! (He has done it before... He's all sorts of MMA n fighting styles, he trained my brother in law, big... big big man.)


Many things humans do make me embarrassed to be human as well. ... Have I ever mentioned my distaste for stupid people?

[guidofatherof5]

Time for some good news.

The 2012 Snapper Fest has been cancelled. This is a festival where the contestants grab snapping turtles by their necks and swing them around.
Arav – Snapperfest 2012 Canceled (http://www.arav.org/news-events/snapperfest-2012-canceled/)

What a horrible event perpetrated on an animal that just wants to be left alone.
I would certainly be arrested if I where at the event. These type of events make me embarrassed to be a human.

Credit where credit is due.
Thank you Steve Schmidt for giving me the link to this article.

[Invisible Snake]

Tell Steve Schmidt to join the forum. I'm starting to think he's your imaginary friend, lol jk :p

[guidofatherof5]

Tell Steve Schmidt to join the forum. I'm starting to think he's your imaginary friend, lol jk :p

I've made that suggestion many times but to no avail. Really, he's a real person.
Lord, I hope he is. Otherwise I'm crazy.:D

[ProXimuS]

It's Steve's alter ego, Steve:p

[guidofatherof5]

Here is my beautiful Emmyjo and he boy Tank.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/emmytank.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Happy Birthday Tank


Tank turned 4 today. I think he is right at 17 pounds. I am so happy with Tank. Every day is an adventure with an animal that usually doesn't like human contact. Tank on the other hand seeks it out. He recognizes me from everyone else and wants my undivided attention. He is a hands-on turtle.
I do keep in mind the potential injuries he can inflict so I am caution. With that being said Tank has never shown any aggression since coming to live with us.
I look forward to many more years with this unbelievable turtle and member of our family.
Cake and ice cream is planned for later in the day when the kids get home from school.
Photos to follow.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Happy Birthday Tank!:)

[kerensa]

I am completely lost. why would anyone want to do this? Sounds like a horrible past time.


Time for some good news.

The 2012 Snapper Fest has been cancelled. This is a festival where the contestants grab snapping turtles by their necks and swing them around.
Arav – Snapperfest 2012 Canceled (http://www.arav.org/news-events/snapperfest-2012-canceled/)

What a horrible event perpetrated on an animal that just wants to be left alone.
I would certainly be arrested if I where at the event. These type of events make me embarrassed to be a human.

[RedSidedSPR]

Idk but id get a taser to the *** as well.

Happy Birthday Tank :D

[chris-uk]

Happy Birthday Tank
Tank turned 4 today.

Happy Birthday Tank! From a sunny Coventry afternoon.



Cake and ice cream is planned for later in the day when the kids get home from school.


And jelly?

[guidofatherof5]

Happy Birthday Tank! From a sunny Coventry afternoon.



And jelly?

Jelly? Explain please.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

It's what you'd call Jello

[chris-uk]

Jelly? Explain please.

Kids parties here usually have cake, jelly and ice-cream. Although I believe you guys call jelly "jello" - it's the gelatin stuff that you mix with boiling water then put in the fridge to set.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Kids parties here usually have cake, jelly and ice-cream.The last kids party I was at we had screaming,blood and vomit I bet it just a Swansea thing though:rolleyes:

[HazAnga]

I wonder what kinda birthday party's hillbillies throw...

[chris-uk]

The last kids party I was at we had screaming,blood and vomit I bet it just a Swansea thing though:rolleyes:

The last party I went to that had jelly had vomiting. I think it's just a student thing to make your jelly with vodka though.

[RedSidedSPR]

I wonder what kinda birthday party's hillbillies throw...

You can't beat a hillbilly party of any sort.

[SkinnyPete]

Happy belated birthday Tank!!!!

[guidofatherof5]

Here are all the kids minus Gabby who was busy working(babysitting).
I am such a lucky man to have the kids I do and of course my youngest child Tank.:D

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/tanks_4th.jpg

[kueluck]

A Birthday toast to Tank.............but he kinda looks like he's already had a few to many. :p

[guidofatherof5]

Tank had a good day and we enjoyed some cake and ice cream. Tank had a boneless pork chop for dinner. He was up till midnight so he's sleeping in today. He deserves it, he's a good boy.

[guidofatherof5]

This is little Peachy. Yeah, right little. She's matured into a good looking female. She will be placed into the breeding loop next Spring.
Looks like the male Cherry-on-top has another girl friend. Hopefully she'll produce some nice red scrubs.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//675/medium/peachy.jpg

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Lovely snake Steve:D.Who needs tetrataenia when you can get a red radix?:cool:

[Lisa4john]

Beautiful! Nuff said. ;)

[guidofatherof5]

This is my awesome son Kale. He just turned 16.
I couldn't be more proud of him. I look forward to seeing the man he will become.
I'm a proud Dad.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/kale_my_awesome_son.jpg

[Lisa4john]

Happy birthday, Kale! Good looking kids and snakes! You've got it all don'tcha! :D

[guidofatherof5]

Happy birthday, Kale! Good looking kids and snakes! You've got it all don'tcha! :D

Yes I do. I am a blessed man.

[ProXimuS]

Happy Birthday Kale!:D


And a late Happy Birthday to Tank! I can't believe I missed that:(

Aaand very pretty Peachy girl!

[guidofatherof5]

A guy that I sold some heat pads to called this morning to see if I would buy an Exo-terra 18 X 18 X 24 inch enclosure from him for $15.00 That was a no brainer.:D
He even delivered it. Now I have a wonderful enclosure for "Lucky" to live in up with the rest of the family.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/exoterra.jpg

[Invisible Snake]

Great deal!

[ConcinusMan]

$15 ? :eek:

[guidofatherof5]

$15 ? :eek:


No. $15, delivered :eek: :D

[ConcinusMan]

That's quite enough. I don't want to hear anymore about it.:p

[Light of Dae]

I've got two of those tanks. :) However I bought one new on sale for $90($140 reg) and a used one for $75. George owns one n flames are in the other. Good tanks... wish I could of gotten them for $15 delivered :P

[guidofatherof5]

I've got two of those tanks. :) However I bought one new on sale for $90($140 reg) and a used one for $75. George owns one n flames are in the other. Good tanks... wish I could of gotten them for $15 delivered :P

Yes. $15 delivered was awesome as I was telling Richard.:D

[Foxrun402]

That is cheappp! enjoy your new playground Lucky!

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Steve,you really are a lucky sod:p:D

[guidofatherof5]

Steve,you really are a lucky sod:p:D

Thanks. I think.:D

Wait just a minute.
sod 2 (s d) Chiefly British Vulgar Slang. n. 1. A sodomite. 2. A person regarded as obnoxious or contemptible.

You are off the Christmas card list William.
:D

[-MARWOLAETH-]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXk_qGUD5KD8cKDOQYpItQc8NOKGg5s GnomsXJD2msdBtfv7L1

[guidofatherof5]

Sorry, not like cats. That just made things worse for you :D

[EasternGirl]

rofl....yep..Steve hates cats...he probably has a picture of a cat up on his wall that he throws darts at when he is frustrated. Ha ha ha...Sorry I missed Tank and Kale's birthday. So, they are November babies like Mike and me? You know, Mike turns 43 soon and I turn 33. Tee hee. Kale looks just like you in the face!

[guidofatherof5]

rofl....yep..Steve hates cats...he probably has a picture of a cat up on his wall that he throws darts at when he is frustrated. Ha ha ha...Sorry I missed Tank and Kale's birthday. So, they are November babies like Mike and me? You know, Mike turns 43 soon and I turn 33. Tee hee. Kale looks just like you in the face!


Oct. Birthdays Kale and Tank. 16th and 12th respectively.

As far as Kale looking like me, I can only hope he'll grow out of that homely stage.:D

[ProXimuS]

Haha! This thread just got hilarious....:p

Awesome deal for a Lucky's new home! You know you'll have to get pics when you get her setup in there, right?

[guidofatherof5]

She's all settled in. Need to give her more to explore but she's doing well.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/exoterra.jpg

[ProXimuS]

Aw, but I don't see her in there :( It's ok, looks good! And I'm sure she's enjoying being upstairs with her human family:)

[guidofatherof5]

Tonight is a food night. I'll update the photo then.

[guidofatherof5]

Here's the big girl enjoying her 3rd large night crawler.
She's a very good eater until she does her bi-yearly fasting.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//628/medium/Hungry_Lucky.jpg

[ProXimuS]

She's so pretty:) Have you ha her since a baby? If so, how old is she?

[guidofatherof5]

She's so pretty:) Have you ha her since a baby? If so, how old is she?

She was a W/C baby and has been with us for 5 years. 6 this Spring.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Very nice girl:).Is there a story that goes with her name?

Also I think I'd better use Welsh slang in the future.:p
Rwyn flin.Rwyn addo peidio fod twpsyn eto:rolleyes:

[guidofatherof5]

Today, I visited a local school who's class was studying reptiles. I took an adult T.radix female (Tourette), one of the baby Northwestern Garter Snake (T.ordinoides) a Western Painted Turtle (Chrysemys picta), a African spurred tortoise (Geochelone sulcata) and of course tank (Chelydra serpentina-Common Snapping Turtle)
I showed Tank last. The kids were excited to see Tank again as this is his 3rd visit to the school. Tank was perfect and interacted with the kids as usual. The teacher also petitioned me to let Tank live in the classroom. Ah, no. He went home with me.
Once home Tank had breakfast and retired to a blanket for some rest. Rest means watching out from under the blanket.

*Update*
Tank's rest has turned into sleep. Poor tired, hard working turtle.:D

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/good_tank.jpg

[Selkielass]

Awwww. Good job Tank. Ny-night.

[ProXimuS]

Aw how fun! I bet the kids loved that presentation:D

I have to say....I'm a little jealous they got to meet Tank....

[guidofatherof5]

He's a great turtle. He makes friends everywhere he goes. ;)

[guidofatherof5]

Here's lucky enjoying some turkey heart I picked up today.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//628/medium/lucky_turkey.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

I posted earlier in the pet thread that I was going to have some big news about Tank.
I've decided to let you all in on what is going on.
In my city Tank (all snapping turtles) are considered dangerous animals. I've kept Tank in the shadows as I didn't want to lose him.
A few weeks ago My friend Steve Schmidt call me and told me about an "exclusion" to the dangerous animal code.
The exclusion is for "educational" animals. Since Tank has been used in many educational programs I feel he qualifies for the exclusion.
I contacted our City Attorney and filed the appropriate paperwork. The health board meets on Dec. 5th to discuss this issue.
My feelings are this should pass but if it doesn't I will be in for a legal fight.

I would like all of you to hope/pray/wish for a positive outcome to that meeting. Tank is a very important member of our family and I want him to be free to live with our family. He is the most unique turtle I have ever seen.

[infernalis]

I posted earlier in the pet thread that I was going to have some big news about Tank.
I've decided to let you all in on what is going on.
In my city Tank (all snapping turtles) are considered dangerous animals. I've kept Tank in the shadows as I didn't want to lose him.
A few weeks ago My friend Steve Schmidt call me and told me about an "exclusion" to the dangerous animal code.
The exclusion is for "educational" animals. Since Tank has been used in many educational programs I feel he qualifies for the exclusion.
I contacted our City Attorney and filed the appropriate paperwork. The health board meets on Dec. 5th to discuss this issue.
My feelings are this should pass but if it doesn't I will be in for a legal fight.

I would like all of you to hope/pray/wish for a positive outcome to that meeting. Tank is a very important member of our family and I want him to be free to live with our family. He is the most unique turtle I have ever seen.


Behind you all the way Steve.....

[Foxrun402]

Me too I think Tank rocks and he already loves you guys too why would they want to break that up, all they have to do is see it! He is awesome!

[Light of Dae]

In my city Tank (all snapping turtles) are considered dangerous animals. I've kept Tank in the shadows as I didn't want to lose him.
...
I would like all of you to hope/pray/wish for a positive outcome to that meeting. Tank is a very important member of our family and I want him to be free to live with our family. He is the most unique turtle I have ever seen.


See you and Tank will be just fine. I have no doubts. You've nailed it already. Snapping turtles are considered dangerous animals but Tank is the most unique turtle you've ever seen. You could easily prove how awesome he is by bringing him to them for educational purposes.

lol Bring them to school Steve!!

Hey there's an idea... Get all the kids who've met Tank to make him cards to stay! Them show the cards to the board members, if kids have seen Tank n been okay with him I think Y'all will be alright.

Nothing but positive thoughts.

[Greg'sGarters]

EVERYONE RUSH TO STEVE'S HOUSE! Lol. It's like you look out of your window and see 50 people all carrying snake hooks and garter snakes on your front lawn lol.

You and tank will definitely be in my prayers. I know what it's like to have something that you love but shouldn't have. I used to have a gator that was sweet as ever! He would take food from my hands and would knew when it was me coming to his tank. However, if I had got caught with him, I would be fined $25,000 and he would be taken away. Unfortunately he died from internal parasites. I know what you are going through. You and Tank will definitely be in my prayers. please, keep me updated.

[guidofatherof5]

I'm thinking about attending the meeting if I can.
That way I can answer any questions that might arise.
I'll keep the forum posted as things progress.

[Selkielass]

My best wishes are with you.
Do attend, and take an album of pictures highlighting your program. Feel free to include the one of Jay rubbing tanks chin that is here in the forum albums.

You should also provide an outline of your program, if one wasn't included with your permit paperwork.

[guidofatherof5]

My best wishes are with you.
Do attend, and take an album of pictures highlighting your program. Feel free to include the one of Jay rubbing tanks chin that is here in the forum albums.

You should also provide an outline of your program, if one wasn't included with your permit paperwork.

I didn't as it wasn't required. Good idea though.
Not sure if the meeting is open to the public.

[SkinnyPete]

In my thoughts and prayers my friend.

[kueluck]

<~~ lifting up you, Tank & the rest of your family during this.

[guidofatherof5]

Spoke with the City Attorney today. He didn't think the exclusion was going to be a problem so he didn't think I would need to be there.
He said he would call me Thursday morning with the decision.

[Invisible Snake]

If you use an animal for educational purposes do you need to take out some sort of insurance just in case?

[guidofatherof5]

It is isn't listed as a requirement but good point to bring up.

[ConcinusMan]

You're lucky they count your activities as "Educational" purposes. Any permits of that type for keeping restricted species around here are only granted to educational/research institutions. Showing your animal off at schools and stuff doesn't count. I mention that mainly because someone hinted in another thread about keeping concinnus' in WA under a permit. They're not granted to individuals at all. Just Universities/zoos for study/research purposes. And believe it or not, once they are in captivity they must stay there, or be destroyed. They can't be released later. If any captive breeding is done as part of the research, those babies are doomed to be destroyed as well, once research is finished.:mad:

[guidofatherof5]

Lucky Tank then.

It's much more then just "showing off".;)

[ConcinusMan]

I know this, but here the educational permit would be under state, not city, and the state doesn't consider any educational activity which doesn't produce new scientific hard data to be "educational". Permits are granted only to educational institutions, and even then this has to be a zoology dept with a zoologist attending, not an individual. They're also quite picky about the details and purpose of the research.

[ProXimuS]

Sending lots of good luck to your family and Tank!

[kimbosaur]

Good luck Tank!

[d_virginiana]

Good luck Tank :)

idk about Iowa, but in NC turtles can be considered 'educational' animals for things like school shows or nature presentations at parks.

[guidofatherof5]

I wish I had the best of news to report but I don't.

I spoke to the city attorney this morning and he said the issue of liability came up. He said that the board wanted to see that I had at least $100,000 in liability insurance that would cover any injury Tank might create.
I contacted my insurance agent and was told I had $300,000 in liability insurance BUT!
Now that he knows I have a snapping turtle he(insurance agent) needed to contact the Underwriter to see if that's acceptable.
If it isn't I will not be allowed to renew my policy and might have to pay much more for a policy from another company.
The good news is the initial underwriter didn't see a problem but she wanted to contact her boss to check.

Talk about a can of worms. Now, the Health Board doesn't meet until Feb. 6th so it's a long waiting game.
I'm hoping to hear from my insurance man within the next couple of days with some good news.

[Foxrun402]

In my thoughts and prayers steve!!

[d_virginiana]

That's just crazy... On the bright side, at least the permit people seem to like him. Now it's just the insurance people...

[Selkielass]

There are insurance rider guidelines that cover beekeepers- you just need yo find an agent experienced in covering liability for agriculture an
d zoos.

[kueluck]

^^good point. I've never heard of any one being allergic to turtles or a fatal turtle bite.

[Stefan-A]

^^good point. I've never heard of any one being allergic to turtles or a fatal turtle bite.
Doesn't need to be fatal. It would probably be cheaper, if it was.

[guidofatherof5]

Looks like my bearded dragon wanted to be a mama, again.
This is the 2nd clutch of unfertilized eggs in the last year.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//821/medium/bearded_dragon_eggs.jpg

[ProXimuS]

Do they always lay eggs regardless if they mated or not.

[guidofatherof5]

I believe they do.

[guidofatherof5]

Turkey heart was on the menu today. It was enjoyed by many.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//769/medium/shyblue_turkey.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//747/medium/tsc_turkey.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//747/medium/tsc_turkey1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//747/medium/tsc_turkey2.jpg

[Invisible Snake]

Great pictures Steve, thanks for sharing :)

[guidofatherof5]

Finally some good news.
My insurance company underwriter gave me approval to have a snapping turtle as part of my home owners policy at no additional charge.
Now I have to wait until Feb. 6th and the Health Board meeting for their final approval. I will attend that meeting.

[ConcinusMan]

It's in the bag

[guidofatherof5]

It's in the bag

Not until I have the "Exception" in writing and in my hand.

I've seen government in action before.:D

[Mommy2many]

yeah!!!

[SilasBannook]

Great news! Congratulations on that. I am sure you must have been sweating that little twist of fate in this venture. Prayers going to you and Tank being able to officially educate the kids in your area.

[guidofatherof5]

Great news! Congratulations on that. I am sure you must have been sweating that little twist of fate in this venture. Prayers going to you and Tank being able to officially educate the kids in your area.

To be totally honest protecting Tank is the main reason for this whole process. I don't want to loose him to this law.
Getting him into the schools and other meeting is fun but his safe future is the most important thing.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//751/medium/tired_tank_2.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

He's always tired.:rolleyes:

[guidofatherof5]

He's always tired.:rolleyes:

This time of the year you would be correct.

[ProXimuS]

Congratulations:D Yay for Tank!!

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I don't think tank would be happy anywhere other than the ranch.It's a shame you have to go to all this bother because of a stupid law.

[Selkielass]

Yay!
Being there to answer questions is a good move, I think.
Best luck.

[guidofatherof5]

Usually the post is junk mail and bills but today I got a package from my friend Udo. Opening the box we(family) tried to guess what it was.
We were all wrong. Nothing we guessed came close to what it was. I now have another awesome tea cup.
Thanks Udo.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//821/medium/thamnophis_cup.jpg

[-MARWOLAETH-]

A nice cuppa with a garter on the mug what could be better:)

[Selkielass]

Cool!
I want a garter snake mug now....

[Foxrun402]

Suzi is on there! I need one of those! lol!

[guidofatherof5]

My biggest female T.radix Speckle has a Vet. appointment later this afternoon. A few weeks back I notice some blood in her feces so I did a fecal float and found some pin worm eggs. I treated her with panacur twice in a 2 week period. I thought things had gotten better but they haven't.
Not sure what's going on. Speckle was an adult when I found her outside the front door 4 years ago.
Hoping for the best for this big old girl.

[chris-uk]

Maybe she just needs a third round of Panacur? The vet that treated Nobby's worms prescribed three treatments, which I think were: day 1, day 4 and day 14. It's all about hitting the worms at each reproductive stage isn't it?
Fingers-crossed that the vet visit puts her right.

[guidofatherof5]

Speckle's visit to the Vet. when well. I took a stool sample which contained some blood.
Dr. B explained that the redness of the blood strongly suggests a problem in the small intestine. If it had been in the large intestine the blood would have started to break down. Checking her vent he found a small polyp right at the end of the cloaca. He thinks this polyp is bleeding when she defecates. He also said that she may have more inside but that there is no treatment available. He suggests I watch her poop to see if this is the culprit. If it is, he said he can laser it off or I can try using Preparation H to shrink the polyp.
I'm leaning away from any surgery to her cloaca/vent. It is almost impossible to keep infection out do to the location.
She's is also an older snake and Dr.B said she could live out her life with this situation left untreated.
Speckle's attitude is good. She is active and eating well.
Have to go now, to put ointment on her butt.:D

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//821/medium/speckle16.jpg

[Mommy2many]

She's so pretty!

[guidofatherof5]

Thanks. I think she's the bomb.;)

[HazAnga]

"Preparation H" Feels good on the hole :D

[kueluck]

Poor girl. Butt as least she's in good hands. :p

[ConcinusMan]

"Preparation H" Feels good on the hole :D

The "H" originally stood for hydrocortisone. Jeez.:rolleyes:

[HazAnga]

The "H" originally stood for hydrocortisone. Jeez.:rolleyes:

Lol, Ever seen Robin Williams live on broadway... hilarious, he's got a bit on preparation H.

Anyway Steve i hope she gets better, Gail's right, her butt's in good hands ;)

[ProXimuS]

Glad it's nothing too serious:)

[guidofatherof5]

I moved our girl "Lucky" up to the living room and to keep her company I put my green radix male "Mr. Greenjeans" in with her.
I think he has a new girl friend from the looks of this photo. I call it "Getting Lucky":D
There was no lockup but he is definitely interested.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//628/medium/getting_lucky.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//628/medium/getting_lucky1.jpg

[Selkielass]

Awwww, I love his name!

[adamanteus]

So, how many radix on the ranch these days, Steve?

[ConcinusMan]

:eek: You didn't ask that just now did you?

http://download.gamespotcdn.net/d4/user_images/1979/0funnyohnoyoudidnt_2.gif

[HazAnga]

:eek: You didn't ask that just now did you?

http://download.gamespotcdn.net/d4/user_images/1979/0funnyohnoyoudidnt_2.gif

Lmfao... That picture is kinda racist in a way but it's still funny lol!

[guidofatherof5]

So, how many radix on the ranch these days, Steve?

Radixes.......... let's see............. 156

[ConcinusMan]

Lmfao... That picture is kinda racist in a way

Hardly. I think the word you're looking for is "stereotypical" ;)

There. I fixed it.

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001162223/wonder_woman_xlarge.gif


Radixes.......... let's see............. 156

Will somebody please check to see if there are any pigs flying around outside. Or did hell freeze over? He gave us a number! :eek:

[HazAnga]

Hardly. I think the word you're looking for is "stereotypical" ;)

That would actually be the proper term.

Jeeze Steve, do you seriously have that many? I think i'd loose my mind if i had that many, though i wouldn't have kids to help me. I have one, but he's just almost 2. I'll need a few more years before he can be of any use in that area, right now he just makes messes of toys everywhere!!!

[ProXimuS]

Wow I wouldn't think you could even put a number on them:p

[ConcinusMan]

And that's just the radixes. ;)


Wow I wouldn't think you could even put a number on them:p

Exactly. I lose track of the exact count when I go over 15 or so. :rolleyes: Especially when I have litters besides my regular residents and/or snakes are coming and going. I was just kind of shocked to hear a number. Steve has always sidestepped that question before. I suspect it's because at the times it was being asked, he probably didn't actually know the exact number. :p

[guidofatherof5]

Good Ranch News to report.

#1 Shyblue my only ribbon snake T. proximus orarius (Gulf coast ribbon snake) has started taking unscented night crawlers. When I first offered today she refused but after watching the big T.s.concinnus girls getting all they wanted she broke down and took one.
Every time they grabbed one she rushed toward them as if to say "I wanted that one" but never attempted to take it. It's nice to know I don't have to scent them with fish anymore. Nice going Shyblue.

#2. Daisy (The radix on my Welcome to new members photo) has started eating again. She had gone off food for 4 weeks so I gave her a 1 month chill in the fridge. She's been out for a week and finally started eating. This is good to see as I have a nice albino radix male picked out for her.

[adamanteus]

Glad to hear these two are eating for you, Steve.

[guidofatherof5]

At first things appeared to be getting better for Speckle as I treated her twice daily with the prep-H. Then the blood flow increased. She is now on SMZ/TMP Oral Suspension - SMZ-TMP is a broad spectrum antibiotic used to treat respiratory, urinary tract, skin or gastrointestinal infections and other conditions. .05ml once a day for the next 7 days. She continues to eat and request to be taken out of the tub and put back with her group. This won't be done until things improve for her condition. I know she wants out as she has bit me a number of times since being placed in the tub. This is a first for her. In all the years she's been with me she has been docile and easy to handle. She's tired of being in quarantine.
I spoke to my Vet. about scoping her to see what is bleeding. He said he is limited to a 4 inch scope and thinks that might not be enough. He also talked about exploratory surgery. I am not considering this as she is an old snake and seem to be handling this situation well. I might see if he can borrow a longer scope or have one of his colleagues scope her out.

[ProXimuS]

I hope everything works out alright:)

[kueluck]

Get well Speckle, hang in there girl.:D It's nice to know she's in good hands.

[guidofatherof5]

The reality is, good hands can't stop nature. I certainly don't want to lose my girl .
I hope this new run of medication will help.

[chris-uk]

A thought on the biting - it may be a sign that she is in some discomfort, as much as due to the change in accommodation. I know we're hoping that the antibiotics will help, but you know the reality of the symptoms aren't good. I think you're right that if you subject her to an invasive procedure it's not worthwhile unless the vet can see more than 4 inches.
That she's still eating well is a big positive though, whatever is going on in her digestive tract isn't severe enough to put her off her food.

[guidofatherof5]

I've had a bearded dragon for a number of years and there have never been any issues until tonight. As I approached the enclosure I noticed Toad(my name for her) watching me open a new can of Zoo Med grasshoppers, nothing new with that.
So, I grabbed one of the grasshoppers and offered it. Toad launched herself off her log a grabbed my finger and started chewing.
I was lucky to get out of there with only minor bleeding. She's never reacted that way to food before and this isn't the first time she has eaten these.
This is my first bearded dragon bite. Rotten Toad.:mad:

[HazAnga]

I remember when i had my beardie "Sanchez" was her name, lol i thought she was a he for a while...I had banana over my fingers when i was trying to feed her one day and she chomped down on my finger pretty good. It wasn't half as bad as i was expecting it to be though. lol. My bite experience is pretty lousy, been bit by a few garters by my beardie and i think a Tokey and leaf tail gecko, but that's it. I have a couple corns and a Brazilian Rainbow boa... I'm hoping to never be bitten by my BRB... I just have this feeling that boa bites hurt more lol :D

[guidofatherof5]

Here are the baby T.ordinoides looking full and Tourette looking for a treat.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//780/nw_kielbasa.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//780/tourette_the_beautiful.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

I hope I'm not jumping the gun with Speckle but the amount of blood in her feces had taken a dramatic drop. The last 2 times she's pooped there has been next to no blood in the feces.
I hope this is a sign that she is on the mend. She continues to eat well and she has been moved out of the tub and into a front opening enclosure.

[guidofatherof5]

Speckle update.

She went to the Vet. today and while there passed a large amount of blood. She is now on Metronidazole (1ml per week for 4 weeks)
He is also running the stool sample for any evidence to the problem.
Speckle has lost about 100g from 2 years ago and is looking thin but continues to have a good appetite and good attitude/behavior.
Metronidazole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metronidazole)

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Metronidazole works awesome, but is lethal if overdosed so be careful!
speckle update.

She went to the vet. Today and while there passed a large amount of blood. She is now on metronidazole (1ml per week for 4 weeks)
he is also running the stool sample for any evidence to the problem.
Speckle has lost about 100g from 2 years ago and is looking thin but continues to have a good appetite and good attitude/behavior.
metronidazole - wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/metronidazole)

[guidofatherof5]

Metronidazole works awesome, but is lethal if overdosed so be careful!

He took her weight and referenced the chart and I'm very careful about meds. Thanks for the heads up though.

[Selkielass]

I hope the treatment clears things up.

[guidofatherof5]

She made it through the night and had a few crawlers for breakfast this morning.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Great news!!! You should start to notice some improvement real soon, but get ready every snake i have ever treated with flagyl has a major increase in appetite!

[BLUESIRTALIS]

I hope the fecal comes back good! I hope she don't have a protozoa, but if she does flagyl(metronidazole) should be the best treatment. If it turns out to be an amoeba they may have to up the dose. Not trying to be negative though just thought i should point it out. I really hope that everything works out for this girl!
Speckle update.

She went to the Vet. today and while there passed a large amount of blood. She is now on Metronidazole (1ml per week for 4 weeks)
He is also running the stool sample for any evidence to the problem.
Speckle has lost about 100g from 2 years ago and is looking thin but continues to have a good appetite and good attitude/behavior.
Metronidazole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metronidazole)

[guidofatherof5]

Great news!!! You should start to notice some improvement real soon, but get ready every snake i have ever treated with flagyl has a major increase in appetite!

She'll have all she needs.

[guidofatherof5]

I hope the fecal comes back good! I hope she don't have a protozoa, but if she does flagyl(metronidazole) should be the best treatment. If it turns out to be an amoeba they may have to up the dose. Not trying to be negative though just thought i should point it out. I really hope that everything works out for this girl!

Haven't heard anything from the Vet. He said he would call if anything was found.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Fingers crossed for a good report!


haven't heard anything from the vet. He said he would call if anything was found.

[guidofatherof5]

I'm torn between wanting there to be nothing and wanting answers to solve her troubles.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

I know what you mean. Either way though if it is a parasite or a gi infection of some sort the metronidazole should take care of it.

i'm torn between wanting there to be nothing and wanting answers to solve her troubles.

[gregmonsta]

Crossing my fingers for her ;)

[guidofatherof5]

Checking on Speckle today I found some almost normal looking feces. For the first time in months I can see the poop from the urates. I hope this is a good sign in her recovery. She gets another dose of meds. tomorrow. I want my old big girl back. Speckle came to me, in that she was found outside my front door(probably couldn't reach the door bell) No trouble from the moment I picked her up. She was an adult when she arrived and has been the best breeder I've ever had. 2 years in a row she double clutched and produced wonderful little scrubs. I hope she can produce a some more in the future. I wish I new how old she was. I've had her 5 years.
She downed 5 large night crawlers while I changed her paper towels.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//757/medium/speckle_poop.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//757/medium/speckle3.jpg

[Foxrun402]

She is gorgeous Steve! Hang in there Speckle!

[guidofatherof5]

She is gorgeous Steve! Hang in there Speckle!

Thanks. She's a special snake. Not a scar on her or a scale out of place. She even has the tip of her tail.
I hope a year from now this will just be a bad memory.

[guidofatherof5]

Speckle got her 2nd round of meds. this morning. I also noticed another good BM. No sign of any blood in this one. She had 2 night crawlers for breakfast and wanted more.

[Selkielass]

Excellent to hear!

[Sherrie]

Awww. She is a very pretty snake. I hope things work out for Speckles.

[guidofatherof5]

Today was a very good day as we had a visit from a forum member and her husband. It was a pleasure having ChareiHeals (Kelsey) and her husband Matt here.
First up was meeting Tank, after that a visit to the snake room and later a nice lunch (Bacon wrapped turkey filets, salad, potatoes, asparagus w/bacon and brownies for dessert)
I want to thank Kelsey and Matt for coming by. The door is always open at the Ranch for you.
Any forum members that find themselves in the area feel free to stop by.

[Invisible Snake]

I might just go there for the food lol :D

How did Tank react to meeting strangers? Was he social or did he just want be left alone?

[guidofatherof5]

I might just go there for the food lol :D

How did Tank react to meeting strangers? Was he social or did he just want be left alone?

He was curious at first. Then just relaxed. As they were leaving Tank came out and went to bed under the bookcase.

[ChareiHeals]

Steve, First off I want to thank you and your family so much for letting us come invade your territory and give us a nice break from driving! We had so much fun meeting Tank, your kids, and all your garters (even if one did try to take off my finger, lol). Also, thank you for feeding us, the food was amazing. We found ourselves talking about the Ranch for a very long time while we were on the road.
Second, thank you for the babies and all of the extras! We finally got home and got the 3 girls settled in their new enclosure, and the little red-sided girl was the first to eat. So far, the little Radix is being called T.Rad, until we can come up with a better name for her. The albino red-sided is being called Crescent Moon, because while we were driving, Matt noticed she has little white cresents in her iris'. The albino checkered doesn't have a name just yet, we haven't really seen much of her personality shine through yet. I'll try and get some pictures up of them soon, we're giving them time to settle in and get accustomed to their house.

Thank you again, we will definitely let you know if we ever end up in that neighborhood again! I want to see those babies from your gravid girl! :)

[guidofatherof5]

The pleasure was all ours. We enjoy having guest stop by.

[guidofatherof5]

Speckle continues to improve. Slowly thought. She did have a big day in the eating dept. today. She downed 10 large night crawlers and wanted more.
I hope her recovery continues even though it's at a snail's pace.

[guidofatherof5]

I found a 4 pound pack of turkey hearts in the back of the freezer. Tonight, they were thawed so I made up some small packages for freezing and also served some out to the savages. The male and female T.s.concinnus (Red-spotted garter snake) went crazy for them. My anery male who is usually a picky eater was fighting all the other males for more food. Even myT.s.parietalis (Red Sided Garter Snake) girl were crazy about it.
MyT. e. scotti (Scott's Garter Snake) and T.s.sirtalis "Flames" also enjoyed their first turkey hearts.
I luckily still have all my fingers.:D

[guidofatherof5]

Speckles eating is off the wall. Her stools are still loose but the blood is greatly reduced. She gets one more dose of meds. Thursday, then it's back to the vet. for more evaluations.

[guidofatherof5]

Speckles eating is off the wall. Her stools are still loose but the blood is greatly reduced. She gets one more dose of meds. Thursday, then it's back to the vet. for more evaluations.

Checking her latest BM (in the last 30 minutes) I saw no blood in the feces. She is also getting some of that girth back. Great news.

[guidofatherof5]

I found a 4 pound pack of turkey hearts in the back of the freezer. Tonight, they were thawed so I made up some small packages for freezing and also served some out to the savages. The male and female T.s.concinnus (Red-spotted garter snake) went crazy for them. My anery male who is usually a picky eater was fighting all the other males for more food. Even myT.s.parietalis (Red Sided Garter Snake) girl were crazy about it.
MyT. e. scotti (Scott's Garter Snake) and T.s.sirtalis "Flames" also enjoyed their first turkey hearts.
I luckily still have all my fingers.:D

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Turkey_heart.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Speckle took her last scheduled dose of med. When I checked on her this morning she had a couple normal looking poops also. The solids are finally looking solid(normal) and the urates look like they should.
Her appetite continues to be strong and she is putting noticeable weight back on.
Things are looking much better for her.
I will contact her vet. today to see what comes next for her.
I'm optimistic about what I'm seeing.:)

[Selkielass]

Glad to hear she's doing so well!

[guidofatherof5]

Spoke to her Vet. this morning. He wants her off the meds. for now to see what happens.
I can tell you what is going to happen. I'm going to order another 500 night crawlers. She's eating like a pig.:eek:
I have one of my largest enclosures empty, I think I will get her out of this tub and give her some room to roam. She will be on paper towels and alone for the next few months until I'm confident she is well.

[guidofatherof5]

Here's Speckle's new/old digs. She isn't too happy with me at this point but did eat more food when offered.
She is getting ready to shed(that's great) and continues to put some weight back on.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//627/medium/speckle5.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//627/medium/speckle21.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//627/medium/speckle31.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//627/medium/speckle4.jpg

[chris-uk]

Speckle is a lucky girl. :)

[guidofatherof5]

Speckle is a lucky girl. :)

I'm the lucky one. She's a great snake. Has been great from the moment I picked her up from outside the front door. She didn't try to get away or put up any kind of fight. From that day she has been great in every way. I would say she has been my best breeder. Two years in a row she double clutched for me. She's a very special snake.

[guidofatherof5]

Speckle was looking like she has been gaining weight and she has.
She's filling out nicely and is back up to 208 grams. Her normal weight is the 250-270 gram area.

[chris-uk]

She'll be back up to weight soon if she keeps eating out well. She's not a particularly big girl is she? How does 250-270g compare with other good breeding radix?

[guidofatherof5]

Quite the contrary. She on the large side. Looking back in 2010 she was 242g at conception and maxed at 389g just before giving birth.

[chris-uk]

OK. I can visualise what you're looking at when you talk about your big radix girls now - Adora is 235g.

[guidofatherof5]

Checking on speckle today I saw a reoccurring welcome sight. Normal feces.
After 6 months of black/bloody messes it's nice to see her system returning to normal.
After changing her paper towels she enjoyed 6 nice large night crawlers. I even gave her a couple small pieces of turkey heart to add to the mix.
She's out of opaque (shedding phase) phase so shedding should be within the next couple of days.
I'll post a new photo of this phoenix then.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//627/medium/speckle_poop1.jpg (http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/showphoto.php?photo=11795&title=speckle-poop1&cat=627)

[ConcinusMan]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Turkey_heart.jpg

And why wouldn't he? He lives with turkeys. BA DUM TSSS!!

[guidofatherof5]

Speckle shed today and what a motley looking shed it was. She's in a warm shed box as I type.

[guidofatherof5]

Just removed a perfectly shed Speckle from the box. She is such a gorgeous snake. I hope the temps are warm enough for me to get her outside for a photo shoot tomorrow. Her vent looks almost back to normal and the weight she lost is coming back. Speckle is an awesome T.radix.

[chris-uk]

Go go Speckle!

[guidofatherof5]

More good news to report on Speckle.
She met me at the screen this morning and it wasn't to say hello. This girl wanted some food and she got it. Been over 6 months since she's been actively seeking out food. When I couldn't shovel the worms in fast enough she gave me a couple false strikes(good to see).
After 8 large night crawlers she was content.
Check out photo#2, I asked her how many worms she wanted? There's her answer.:D
After she was done eating she tried to make a heart to say thanks or it's a noose for not feeding more :D
I'm excited to have new birth on the Ranch this year but getting my Speckle back is the best feeling.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//627/medium/speckle6.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//627/medium/speckleate.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//627/medium/speckle_heart.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Since Flagyl (Metronidazole) eliminates good and bad intestinal bacteria I've started administering Ben-Bac + to help replace the good bacterial flora that was killed.
Just another part of a hopefully complete recovery for Speckle.
I smile everyday I see her. She's a special snake.

Metronidazole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metronidazole)

Bene-Bac Plus Powder Veterinary Information from Drugs.com (http://www.drugs.com/vet/bene-bac-plus-powder.html)

[Lisa4john]

Great to hear she is on the mend. She makes great, beautiful babies, I'm really enjoying Sierra and I'm so glad that Mama is doing so well now. :)

[guidofatherof5]

Speckle was out cruising her paddock this morning. When she saw me she rushed the screen and demanded food.
Not to let her set a bad example to the rest of the snakes(because I know they were all watching) I gave her a stern look and said
"I'll get your food right away" :D

She enjoyed 7 large night crawlers while a change some paper towels.

[guidofatherof5]

A bit of bad news to report on Speckle. It's been 2 weeks since her last dose of Flagyl (Metronidazole) and she is spotting blood again.
My Vet. recommends another 4 weeks(once a week) of meds. She has put much of her weight back on and is eating like a pig. Hoping another run of meds. will solve the problem.
I don't want her to have exploratory surgery. I would rather she be scoped to see if the problem can be located. The unfortunate thing is my Vet. doesn't have a long enough scope to do the job. I hope he can find one if it comes to that since I trust him to give her the best care/chance possible.

[chris-uk]

The spots of blood weren't just a one off? That sucks, but sounds like the vet has a good idea.

[guidofatherof5]

The spots of blood weren't just a one off? That sucks, but sounds like the vet has a good idea.

I don't understand your question Chris. She had been blood free for 3 weeks.

[chris-uk]

I don't understand your question Chris. She had been blood free for 3 weeks.

You mentioned a spot of blood when we talked last, I'm assuming she's left more than just spots of blood that once.

[guidofatherof5]

That would be correct. Spotting everyday now.

[guidofatherof5]

Our girl Lucky is now living with her daughter (LG) LG is bigger then her mother and has the attitude of her Dad (Scar-R.I.P.)
LG is a go-getter when it comes to food, even attempting to steal from her own mother (shame on you LG)
In this photo you can see Lucky yelling at her for her behavior.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//628/medium/luck_and_LG.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

I really don't know what to say. At first I was like... No, Steve... Lucky is not yelling at her girl. Impossible.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg/300px-Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg

But then I looked at the pic more closely...

Who can argue with that analysis?

http://joshuamhood.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/shrugging_shoulders2.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

It's been a good day here at the Ranch. Ny(female, T.s.concinnus - Red-spotted garter) arrived safely in the mail and she's already started eating for me. I also found 9 newborn radix scrubs. Mom is a nice red radix and I'm hoping dad is my high-red male. Time will tell.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/new_scrubs_2013.jpg

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Congrats on the new litter!

[guidofatherof5]

I walked into to the snake room and was met by the sound of a tin cup banging against the paddock bars. It was Speckle and she wanted fed.
Before she was given any food it was med. time. She took another dose of Flagyl (Metronidazole) and something new. She's been started on a weekly dose of Baytril.
This was suggested by my friend Steve Schmidt and seconded by my Vet. The Baytril was introduced to address some of the nasties not addressed by the Flagyl.
Aeromonas hydrophilia being one.
Speckle once again is blood-free in her feces which is great but we must find out what is bleeding. I will not subject her to exploratory surgery. If my Vet. acquires a long enough scope I will allow that. For now she is aggreesively feeding and gaining weight.


Metronidazole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagyl)

Aeromonas hydrophila - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeromonas_hydrophila)

Enrofloxacin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baytril)

[BLUESIRTALIS]

It's amazing how flagyl increases the appetite of snakes!
i walked into to the snake room and was met by the sound of a tin cup banging against the paddock bars. It was speckle and she wanted fed.
Before she was given any food it was med. Time. She took another dose of flagyl (metronidazole) and something new. She's been started on a weekly dose of baytril.
This was suggested by my friend steve schmidt and seconded by my vet. The baytril was introduced to address some of the nasties not addressed by the flagyl.
Aeromonas hydrophilia being one.
Speckle once again is blood-free in her feces which is great but we must find out what is bleeding. I will not subject her to exploratory surgery. If my vet. acquires a long enough scope i will allow that. For now she is aggreesively feeding and gaining weight.


metronidazole - wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/flagyl)

aeromonas hydrophila - wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/aeromonas_hydrophila)

enrofloxacin - wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/baytril)

[guidofatherof5]

The group of baby T.radix (Plains Garter Snake) that were born 2 days ago have started eating. Cleaned the plate in a matter of minutes. They'll get a refill at lunch time.
They were hungry little scrubs.

[Foxrun402]

That rocks! Good news!

[guidofatherof5]

The group of baby T.radix (Plains Garter Snake) that were born 2 days ago have started eating. Cleaned the plate in a matter of minutes. They'll get a refill at lunch time.
They were hungry little scrubs.


Cleaned the "lunch plate special" off just as fast.

[Foxrun402]

so I'm kind of wondering.... What I could use as a size comparison for Suzi... Just thinking now because you fed the lil ones twice today, but I'm not sure how old Suzi was when I got her I'm thinking she is maybe 8 months now, but sure she was close to a baby when I got her she was only a mere 6-7" long, and now with her having been here for 7 months I'm curious how big she should really be... (I stress myself out reading the forums sometimes lol)

I'm glad they all ate well though =D

[guidofatherof5]

Stop stressing. You have a beautiful, healthy snake. She seems content with captive life. She's eating like a champ and shedding well. Life is good.
Lay a ruler down and get an overhead photo.

[Dan72]

Steve congrats on the new litter of radix. If you know the red male could be the father, but not sure, did you have how many other possible mates in with her? Can't wait for time to give us an answer.

[guidofatherof5]

Steve congrats on the new litter of radix. If you know the red male could be the father, but not sure, did you have how many other possible mates in with her? Can't wait for time to give us an answer.

She lived with a larger group before I moved her. I'm guessing there were 3 young males that could have bred with her.

[guidofatherof5]

It's a bright, sunny, warm day here at the Ranch. Out off the back deck I counted 6 male radixes catching some sun.
They seem to be waiting for someone:D

[guidofatherof5]

I just took this photo of Speckle. As you can see she's getting that full-figured girl look to her. It's nice to see the girth coming back.
My hopes are high that she will make a full recovery from her illness.
She is such a beautiful girl and as you can see eating very well.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//627/medium/speckle_girth.jpg

[chris-uk]

It's a bright, sunny, warm day here at the Ranch. Out off the back deck I counted 6 male radixes catching some sun.
They seem to be waiting for someone:D

How long did they wait before you chucked some worms at them? :)

[guidofatherof5]

They are not in the mood to eat.:D

[guidofatherof5]

Found some blood in Speckle's feces this morning. Not a good sign. Will contact the Vet. on Tuesday.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//627/medium/bloody_mess2.jpg

[Greg'sGarters]

:eek: Oh wow, I hope Speckle is ok! You and Speckle will be in my prayers! Please keep us updated!

[rickymar81]

I hope everything turns out ok

[guidofatherof5]

I was called out on a snake rescue today. Someone was cleaning up their yard and lifted a board to find many garter snakes under it. They didn't want to see them hurt so they called me to relocate them. I arrived and found one garter under the board. As small first year (last year) T.radix. I also found this Slugzilla. I removed it also. Both were relocated to my backyard.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/slugzilla1.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Approximately 5 minutes ago I change the water and water dish in Enforcer's paddock. I just looked in there and saw Brownie come out of the water. I told her what a good snake she was for taking a bath and keeping clean. I then saw...........
Some please finish my story since we all know how they are. :D

[Stefan-A]

Approximately 5 minutes ago I change the water and water dish in Enforcer's paddock. I just looked in there and saw Brownie come out of the water. I told her what a good snake she was for taking a bath and keeping clean. I then saw...........
Some please finish my story since we all know how they are. :D

http://koti.mbnet.fi/thamnoph/photos/snakesies08/vagrans-nope.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Exactly, only this was a pile.

[guidofatherof5]

It's been a good day here at the Ranch. Ny(female, T.s.concinnus - Red-spotted garter) arrived safely in the mail and she's already started eating for me. I also found 9 newborn radix scrubs. Mom is a nice red radix and I'm hoping dad is my high-red male. Time will tell.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/new_scrubs_2013.jpg


I just did my before bed security sweep in the snake room. As I passed these newborn scrub's tub I lifted the hide to have a look at them. One of the little scrubs is opaque and showing some nice red. Born 22 days ago and one is showing red. I'm very pleased. I will wait for the shed to take place before I post a photo.