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Coolsox
06-11-2011, 08:11 AM
Hi everyone, I recently purchased an unrelated pair of santa Cruz Garters (Thamnophis atratus ssp atratus)
The seller has contacted me to advise that he may have mixed the sexes up, and wanted to be certain that we both had a male and female. Now I've looked through the sexing article on this forum and I am 99.9% certain I have a pair, but would like to hear other peoples opinions.

I managed to keep them still long enough to take a couple of quick pics!

Suspected female:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5078/5813486172_3ce2351a67_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486172/)
Santa Cruz Garter Snake Female (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486172/) by Coolsox (http://www.flickr.com/people/coolsox/), on Flickr

Side view:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/5813486298_b9cffb02cb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486298/)
Santa Cruz Garter Snake Female (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486298/) by Coolsox (http://www.flickr.com/people/coolsox/), on Flickr


Suspected Male:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2164/5813486106_3c097657fc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486106/)
Santa Cruz Garter Snake Male (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486106/) by Coolsox (http://www.flickr.com/people/coolsox/), on Flickr

Side view:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2449/5812917555_e613cb323c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5812917555/)
Santa Cruz Garter Snake Male (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5812917555/) by Coolsox (http://www.flickr.com/people/coolsox/), on Flickr

And one of the bitey end, just for show :D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3647/5722183077_56beb4ae93_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5722183077/)
Santa Cruz Garter Snake (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5722183077/) by Coolsox (http://www.flickr.com/people/coolsox/), on Flickr

Many thanks for your assistance!

aSnakeLovinBabe
06-13-2011, 09:33 AM
your suspicions are correct :) top is a female, bottom is a male!

welcome to the forum!

guidofatherof5
06-13-2011, 09:46 AM
Nice to have you on the forum.

You've got a pair there and called them correctly. Female, male.

sirtalis01
06-13-2011, 02:52 PM
right on point top female bottom male....welcome to the forum

Coolsox
06-14-2011, 11:30 AM
Thanks everyone, good to know that a) I have a pair and b) I learned how to sex Garters :)

Spankenstyne
06-14-2011, 10:20 PM
Yep you've got it. Welcome aboard and you can't go wrong with Santa Cruz, beauties!

elaphilately
06-17-2011, 07:55 AM
Yes on all the animals shown. Nice lookin animals.