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Coolsox
06-11-2011, 07:07 AM
Hi all, this is my first post here and I wondered if you could all be of some assistance?

I recently purchased an unrelated pair of Santa Cruz Garters. The previous owner contacted me recently to say he may have got the sexes mixed up. I would rather not have them probed at this stage as they are quite young, but judging by the pics I've seen in the sexing thread i'm 99% certain I have a pair, I would just like confirmation from other people too.

So, first up here is the snake I suspect is female:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5078/5813486172_3ce2351a67_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486172/)
Santa Cruz Garter Snake Female (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486172/) by Coolsox (http://www.flickr.com/people/coolsox/), on Flickr

Side view:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/5813486298_b9cffb02cb_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486298/)
Santa Cruz Garter Snake Female (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486298/) by Coolsox (http://www.flickr.com/people/coolsox/), on Flickr

And here is the snake I suspect is male:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2164/5813486106_3c097657fc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486106/)
Santa Cruz Garter Snake Male (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5813486106/) by Coolsox (http://www.flickr.com/people/coolsox/), on Flickr

Side View:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2449/5812917555_e613cb323c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5812917555/)
Santa Cruz Garter Snake Male (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coolsox/5812917555/) by Coolsox (http://www.flickr.com/people/coolsox/), on Flickr

StrangeCargo
06-24-2011, 03:07 PM
I'm no garter expert but I breed a ton of cornsnakes/ratsnakes/kingsnakes/etc and I'd say "Yes" to your ideas. The top one has a nice tapering tail past the vent= female. The lower pic has the thicker area (hemipenes) below the vent BEFORE tapering off= male.

ConcinusMan
06-25-2011, 11:06 AM
I laughed at the title of this thread, but well, that's me. You're right. First is female, second is male.