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gartergal
02-12-2011, 03:28 PM
aqua
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1798.jpg
stubs
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1797.jpg
tokaloshe
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1751.jpg
guess
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1726.jpg
blanco
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1790.jpg
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1788.jpg

gartergal
02-12-2011, 03:29 PM
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1786.jpg
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1785.jpg

gartergal
02-12-2011, 03:29 PM
busie
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1756.jpg
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1754.jpg
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1753.jpg
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1722-1.jpg
rubben
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1742.jpg
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1745-1.jpg

gartergal
02-12-2011, 03:30 PM
twix
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1731.jpg
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1729.jpg

guidofatherof5
02-12-2011, 03:30 PM
Awesome looking crew.;)

gartergal
02-12-2011, 03:31 PM
smiley /ribbon
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1710.jpg
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1697.jpg
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j403/asharliiiieee/IMGP1734-1.jpg

gartergal
02-12-2011, 03:33 PM
Awesome looking crew.;)

:D thankyou !

zooplan
02-12-2011, 04:17 PM
cool coolectiion :D

Is twix going to shed soon?

gartergal
02-12-2011, 04:37 PM
cool coolectiion :D

Is twix going to shed soon?

thanks !
twix is always caramel/chocolatly brown and 10ish % red
i originally got her as a common then i noticed the slight red checks ... i really hope shes not a cross :/ or ill cry lol
mhmmm lol

gregmonsta
02-12-2011, 04:48 PM
Twix looks all parietalis to me ;). I've seen them with a strong greenish hue too.

gartergal
02-12-2011, 05:53 PM
Twix looks all parietalis to me ;). I've seen them with a strong greenish hue too.

as long as shes 100% one thing not 50% 2 things :D

SilentWrath*
02-12-2011, 06:36 PM
as long as shes 100% one thing not 50% 2 things :D

What's wrong with a 50/50 mix?

Mix = something new and exciting, I'd be happy if I found out I had a hybrid.

All very nice snakes, by the way, they seem to be in good care.

kibakiba
02-12-2011, 06:39 PM
Maybe so, but it seems like most garter keepers don't like hybrids, me included. People could create a hybrid and call it, say, a florida blue. and if it looked like one, you would believe them. It's deceiving. Some keepers work extremely hard on keeping their lines pure, and if someone messes that line of snakes up, all their hard work is ruined. I don't want to see garters ending up like corns and boas.

gartergal
02-12-2011, 06:50 PM
no , im so against it sorry
its not new an exciting look at the burm ball or the billons of corn morphs you can get a normal classic corn for £8 and morphs up to £500
without the normal even excisting we wouldnt have them yet we have had them and made them basically worthless
and hybrids ruin pure lines of species

guidofatherof5
02-12-2011, 07:24 PM
Garter snake give us such variety within their species I see no need to cross them.
If it happens in nature with over lapping ranges, that's one thing but to purposely muddy up the gene pool. No. No way.
I don't want to see garter snakes go down the same road as corns and other snakes.
Just because we could cross them doesn't mean we should.
I'm a purest.
Just T.radix has enough color differences to keep me interested for the rest of my life.
Just my opinion.;)

Jeff B
02-12-2011, 11:22 PM
Nice collection, they all look great and healthy.

gregmonsta
02-13-2011, 04:52 PM
Mix = something new and exciting, I'd be happy if I found out I had a hybrid.


Wouldn't be happy at all .... would ruin my breeding plans and wouldn't create anything that didn't already look like something else in garter world. :rolleyes:

ConcinusMan
02-13-2011, 06:55 PM
Ditto. Big fat "NO" to crossing garter species or subspecies. Obviously you've seen all the morphs and variety. "New and exciting" is accomplished without crossing.

kibakiba
02-13-2011, 10:57 PM
I agree with Richard. There's so many varieties you can get WITHOUT crossing any species/subspecies.

ConcinusMan
02-14-2011, 12:26 AM
If you like surprises and not knowing what you'll get, try breeding T. ordinoides. They'll be purebred but you never know what color/pattern you will get by looking at the parents.

kibakiba
02-14-2011, 03:10 AM
I guess I'm lucky to have one giving birth soon then. I always love surprises. I almost wish Mama would pop them out right now because I want to see all the adorable babies, and it would give me something to watch while my PC reformats.

ConcinusMan
02-14-2011, 03:35 AM
Well I suppose you're just going to have to keep the babies Chantel. Baby ordinoides look nothing like their real color at birth. Gotta raise them up for a few months before they get their color.

SilentWrath*
02-14-2011, 01:31 PM
All good points, but what I'm saying is that if you have a hybrid, from whatever means, be it in the wild or a pet store that irresponsibly kept two different species together, It's still just as awesome of a creature as a purebred, and dresses just ad much love and attention

kibakiba
02-14-2011, 02:59 PM
Yeah, I know Richard. I planned on keeping them for a while, besides it's going to he hard for me to choose to let them go where I found Mama, or adopt them out. I also want to see what they'll all look like before I do anything with them, because I'm allowed to keep 1 or 2... It's going to be so hard to choose.