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drache
12-18-2010, 09:54 PM
one of my favourite garters is due any time now, and I've been hovering

this girl came to me last year from a friend who could no longer keep her collection
She has a tendency toward slenderness, and totally stopped eating a couple of months ago, so she is a bit too thin for my taste
up until about a week ago I wasn't entirely sure that she was gravid, but she did look big in the bottom for her skinny neck
she shed Tuesday, and suddenly looked really really gravid - lumpy in fact
since then she has had some "spotting" of blood now and then - should that worry me?
the lumpy mass has "dropped" toward the vent (yesterday morning there was still a small narrower "waist" before the vent) - there just isn't much happening, and I can't get her to exercise much
I smelled her vent and there is no smell - it looks clean and smooth
I don't think she has much energy, and her back end is too cumbersome to drag to the water bowl to go drink, so I drop her into lukewarm water a few times per day
at one point I was thinking that she's not gravid at all and that this is some grotesque ballooning abdominal infection, but the past few hours she's making birthing type movements from time to time, so I think this is just going to be one of those long drawn-out kind of things
I just hope there'll be a survivor or two

andycul
12-18-2010, 10:09 PM
really hope she is O.K. and you have lots of cute healthy babies soon :D

guidofatherof5
12-18-2010, 10:24 PM
Keep us posted, Rhea.
She is in our prayers.

kibakiba
12-18-2010, 11:35 PM
I hope everything goes well for you Rhea! Hopefully you'll have a ton of babies to show us soon!

PINJOHN
12-19-2010, 05:56 AM
fingers crossed.

gregmonsta
12-19-2010, 07:42 AM
Hoping for the best Rhea.

ConcinusMan
12-19-2010, 12:55 PM
Sounds like a normal labor. Stay positive. I predict live ones.:D

drache
12-19-2010, 04:02 PM
nothing yet . . .

drache
12-20-2010, 11:16 AM
things are not looking good at this time, and I took the girl to the vet this morning This vet feels that some intervention is called for that she can't do. My best hope would be getting her to the good vet - over two hours away if I had a car, and not an option
at this point I can only hope that these babies will come out one way or another
she is still acting normal for a snake with a humongous rear end to drag around, so I don't feel inclined to take drastic measures myself yet

guidofatherof5
12-20-2010, 11:20 AM
Hoping all goes well.

andycul
12-20-2010, 08:44 PM
Fingers crossed hoping all goes well

gregmonsta
12-21-2010, 05:22 AM
Tell her that her name isn't Sky and she should get on with it!!! ;) ...
adding crossed toes to my crossed fingers.

drache
12-21-2010, 05:23 AM
there she is
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5167/5279484871_f48fc11d55_b.jpg

drache
12-21-2010, 05:24 AM
Tell her that her name isn't Sky and she should get on with it!!! ;) ...
adding crossed toes to my crossed fingers.
I've been thinking of Sky - it's scary

gregmonsta
12-21-2010, 05:29 AM
That's quite a squish! There must be a reason for the hold-up.

gregmonsta
12-21-2010, 05:32 AM
I've been thinking of Sky - it's scary

:o Sky didn't even get to the stage of dropping them towards delivery... I'll take that as a good sign in this case. It might be worth helping her as soon as you see any contractions with some gentle massaging. That's about all I could think of here.

drache
12-21-2010, 06:09 AM
I am still hoping for a good outcome
she's been getting warm baths and gentle massages 2-3 times per day
she's still behaving pretty normal - seems more active since the vet cleaned out her vent

ConcinusMan
12-21-2010, 05:42 PM
That's quite a squish! There must be a reason for the hold-up.

My concinnus girls did that. They had the "squish" but it took them about a week to finally have the babies.

drache
12-22-2010, 07:38 PM
she died a little while ago
I don't think she suffered
I'm sad though

guidofatherof5
12-22-2010, 07:45 PM
I'm so sad to hear she passed. I know how much you liked her.
I'm glad to hear she went peacefully.
May she R.I.P.

A quick question. Did she have a crusty or overly dry vent?

ConcinusMan
12-22-2010, 09:42 PM
So sorry Rhea.:(

andycul
12-23-2010, 12:18 AM
So sorry to hear that Rhea. :(

Stefan-A
12-23-2010, 12:28 AM
Really sorry to hear it, Rhea.

gregmonsta
12-23-2010, 04:42 AM
Horrible news :(, sorry for your loss.

drache
12-23-2010, 05:25 AM
thanks for your kind words
her vent looked normal - smooth, dry, no smell
I briefly thought of cutting her open, but I was so exhausted at that point, and I was a little relieved that she passed so easily, just like she suddenly fell asleep

guidofatherof5
12-23-2010, 09:51 AM
thanks for your kind words
her vent looked normal - smooth, dry, no smell
I briefly thought of cutting her open, but I was so exhausted at that point, and I was a little relieved that she passed so easily, just like she suddenly fell asleep

The reason I asked was that she looked just like one of my T.s.parietalis that passed away. She was an old snake.
Again my condolences to you.

drache
12-23-2010, 02:18 PM
I've got no idea how old Little Bit was
she never did put on much weight, even when she was eating regularly