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RedSidedSPR
11-15-2010, 12:41 PM
Do Danios (Zebra danios etc.) safe to feed to my snake? Do they carry thiaminase?

guidofatherof5
11-15-2010, 01:34 PM
I found this older thread that may be a good read to your question. It by no means answers it though.
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/husbandry/2548-thiaminase-debate.html

RedSidedSPR
11-15-2010, 04:24 PM
Thanks

zooplan
11-16-2010, 01:18 AM
All possible feed do naturally contain thiamin (B1) and thiaminase only varying their amounts.
When the prey dies, thiaminase continue spending the vitamin, and it will still continue, when the body is swallowed by a snake.
Diet should be diverse, fresh and frequently enriched by supplements.

From my point of view it´´ s more important to know a lot about the wide spectrum of syptoms of the `thiamin scarceness disease´

RedSidedSPR
11-16-2010, 09:50 AM
ok thanks. But are they safe or not? they are not on either list.

guidofatherof5
11-16-2010, 12:20 PM
ok thanks. But are they safe or not? they are not on either list.

I did a little searching on the web but didn't find anything one way or another, as of yet.

guidofatherof5
11-16-2010, 01:17 PM
Looks like Danio fish are part of the minnow family.
Best to say unsafe at this point.
Better safe than sorry.;)
Just my opinion.

RedSidedSPR
11-16-2010, 01:18 PM
Ok it dosnt realy matter, I was just curious. They are one of the cheaper fish at petsmart. (still cant find feeder guppies)

guidofatherof5
11-16-2010, 01:22 PM
I did find this.
Seems to be an interesting read.
Thiaminase (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_6/volume_6_1/thiaminase.htm)

guidofatherof5
11-16-2010, 01:29 PM
Important segment to the above link:
#3 is good common sense.


What to do with fishes not mentioned in the lists above?

Certainly not every fishy food is included in the lists above. For many food items probably no data exists, yet. What you can do if you are missing a food fish in the list is:
1. Find out the scientific name of the food fish and compare it to the list again. Many fish are traded under obscure names.
2. Try checking literature for the food species yourself. Search engines are your friends. (If you are successful, reporting it back could help other hobbyists).
3. If you fail to find information, treat the fish in question as if it contained thiaminase.

RedSidedSPR
11-16-2010, 02:04 PM
Thanks, man.