Next season´s breeding projects

[zooplan]

This year´s breeding season is definitely gone.
I´m looking at my breeders, acquisitions and hold backs and wondering
about next year´s breeding projects.
high red ´parietalis,
erythristic ´sirtalis and maybe
amelanistic ´parietalis are on my list.
What are you planning?

[gregmonsta]

Currently will be hoping for T.radix and a mixed bag of reds from my T.s.parietalis :D

[guidofatherof5]

Hoping to produce some high red radixes.
Hoping also to produce some hets from my male albino T.s.parietalis.
Some normal T.s.parietalis will also be welcomed.
I'm looking forward to some more het Checkereds.

[infernalis]

As long as everything goes OK, plans are as follows.

Flames, Flame x Eastern Snow, Melanistic Eastern, Blacknecks, Out-crossed Albino red sided and assorted Radix morphs.

[zooplan]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/hetamelredsided2009f.JPG
This should become the mother of my next amelanistic Redsided Garter Snake generation!

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful snake.

[Stefan-A]

Plans for next season: None.

If the viperines reproduce on their own, great, but I won't breed any of the garters.

[count dewclaw]

radixes: amel x anery (both are possible het for the other trait, so we'll see)

maybe some pugets

[zooplan]

Beautiful snake.
Her designated mate is preparing for shed but could you imaging the red shimmering thru the old skin?
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/hetamelredsided2009m.JPG

[guidofatherof5]

We'd love to see him after the shed.;)
Handsome male, even in shed.

[zooplan]

He shed this morniing:
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/hetamelredsidedm2.JPG
red spots from the neck to the tail tip

[guidofatherof5]

You read my mind(I know, It was a short story) Udo.:D
I was about to ask for a photo. Thanks.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Sweet looking parietalis!!!! looking forward to seeing babies!

[zooplan]

He´s only about 15 inch yet, has eaten very bad all the summer but is now back on feed again, shed twice last month, so I hope he will grow enough and get interested in females during winter.

If both gives their red to amelanistic offspring we´ll probably need sun glasses to view their babies:D

[zooplan]

Yesterday I met a friend who bought the mother of the het. amelansitic male in spring 2009. I had to give her away because my space is so limited.
http://zooplan.net/zora400.jpg
He was a kind, endeavored keeper in those days, living in the same district like me. I knew that his interest in the snakes decreased last winter, and yesterday he told me that he didn´t want to care for his remaining two snakes anymore. The other one is a pos.het. amelanistic female born in 2008, she´s skinnier as Zora, but both took a good meal and will spend the advent in my living room. I´ll cram them to substitute all the meals, I guess, they´ve missed.
Their former keeper is still a kind guy, but had not enough time and energy for a sufficient maintenance.

[ConcinusMan]

Wow, those are some awesome red sideds. They're both het for amelanistic? Gawd, I can't even imagine an albino with that much red!

I plan on breeding my two big blue anery concinnus girls to a very handsome anery male that has very clean white spots and a little greenish tint to his face.

The male anery:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3393/aneryshannon004medium.jpg
The girls:
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4568/anerys021large.jpg
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1947/anerys054large.jpg


Also will hopefully be breeding my red stripe ordinoides girl to an erythristic male.

And that's it.

[ConcinusMan]

The ordinoides I hope to pair up. He made an attempt a few weeks ago but nothing happened. The girl is now brumating. The male will go in with her soon and I'll bring them out in late February.

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1949/flicker002large.jpg

[zooplan]

Ouch, those are crule pictures!
They are burning my eyes!
Although I have no enclosure to maintain them, I wonder how to get their babies here.
I´m jealous:o

[infernalis]

This thread has such nice looking snakes in it. ;) keep them coming.

I look forward to pairing these two up.

female....

http://www.thamnophis.us/close/subi.jpg

male...

http://www.thamnophis.us/head/fireface.jpg

[zooplan]

ouch, ouch, ouch,
you knew that Flames are rare in Europe, don´t you?:mad:

Very brilliant and well composed pictures, thanks for sharing:)

[infernalis]

Danke schön Udo

[ConcinusMan]

Ouch, those are crule pictures!
They are burning my eyes!
Although I have no enclosure to maintain them, I wonder how to get their babies here.
I´m jealous:o

Are you referring to the red sideds, the anery's or the red ordinoides?

I did manage to get ONE anery into Canada this year. If I can do it again and get more of them into Canada, then perhaps they might make it to Europe from there, but that's a long shot and would have to be arranged by somebody in Canada.:cool:

[zooplan]

All but redsideds ... although offspring of Steves new amelanistic male?
The best way to ship to Europe should be colaborating with Scott,
if there is an import next year. I know no other with an export license, who would care sufficiently for Garters prior to shipping.
But I have no budget and no serious need for that, yet.;)

[zooplan]

At our meeting yesterday and in Hamm on Saturday we had discussions about importing further snakes from the US.
Shipping is so wickedly expensive that most European breeders could purchase special CB offspring only by cooperating in a group.

We´re planning...;)
and saving money:D

[ConcinusMan]

Well it's about time somebody coordinated and got a plan. I had a feeling that's how they make it happen. Garters getting over there, I mean.

[charles parenteau]

Very nice pictures all !!!

[zooplan]

a liitle update
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/DSCF96891.JPG
a picture tells more than thousand words;)

[gregmonsta]

Babies!!!!! :)

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking snake Udo.

[reptileparadise]

Very nice Udo! Looks like there will be babies soon!

[ConcinusMan]

Awesome. One of the best looking parietalis' I've ever seen.

[zooplan]

Another breeding saison is gone, I had two litters only,
but wait again for my San Francisco girl to give birth (with little hope for living babies)
These two guys I got at a Garter pals meeting in my living room September 24th.
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Thanks to mexicofan (http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/members/mexicofan.html) for founding lokal meetings in my area

[GarField000]

And what else are you going to breed?
I will breed with my scotti's .... and will give my eastern blackneck's a change but I don't think i will be that lukcy.
I need another couple to breed with, but still have no idea what I want. A granite marcianus would be awesome, but I don't think they will be in houten okt. 9th.
So looking for something else. Maybe pickeringii blue or something. Dunno :D