Some of my Garters...

[Chondro788]

Here a few pics of some of my various garters. I will try and get some more pics of the little scrubs later. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0012.jpg?t=1284156235
Adult male Infernalis - Very pale and going into shed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0010.jpg
Female Erythristic Sirtalis


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0007.jpg
Adult Female Concinnus - She has a nice blue stripe, color lost in pic.

[Chondro788]

A few more....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0021.jpg
Albino Checkered





http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0018.jpg
Red Sided Het Albino

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0014.jpg
Albino Red Sided

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0013.jpg
Anery Red Sided

[Chondro788]

Just a few more...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0020.jpg
Similis, starting to get some blue, hard to capture on camera.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0019.jpg
Flame, this guy is on fire!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0026.jpg
Indiana Sirtalis, this guy wants SO bad to be a flame, check out the orange belly!!

[Mommy2many]

Very nice selection!

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking snakes.

[mustang]

omg we gota breed checker and that albino checkered (if its a girl!) your the first iv seen that actually has 5 bands behind the head besides checker! (and im under the impression hes hypo right now)

[kibakiba]

Lovely snakes!

[mb90078]

Very nice and diverse collection.

[justme]

Definitely on Fire!!! ;-)

[Chondro788]

Thanks for the kind words, and thanks to Jeff B, Scott F, and Tina S, as well as a few others, for helping me aquire such awesome animals!!! :eek:

[Snakers]

That erythrisitic is hot!hot!!hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chondro788]

You think that one is hot, look what Jeff just sent me!!! :eek: This is Jeff's pic and a male he produced this year, I'll take more pics as this little guy grows!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/ery.jpg

[Snakers]

You snagged that one!?

[Chondro788]

How could I pass it up!?! I'm trying to buy some nice building blocks for my breeding colony and when I saw this little guy I just had to have him!! :) And Jeff is so easy to work with, getting him was a nice smooth transaction. :cool: No do I breed him or the flame male to my female ery?? :confused:

[infernalis]

Thanks for the kind words, and thanks to Jeff B, Scott F, and Tina S, as well as a few others, for helping me aquire such awesome animals!!! :eek:


Great folks.. Where most of my snakes came from. We have siblings.



How could I pass it up!?! I'm trying to buy some nice building blocks for my breeding colony and when I saw this little guy I just had to have him!! :) And Jeff is so easy to work with, getting him was a nice smooth transaction. :cool: Now do I breed him or the flame male to my female ery?? :confused:

Hint, Hint......

http://www.thamnophis.us/cherry/EFlame.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/cherry/eryf.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Wayne,
That snake looks like it's suffering from high blood pressure.
Send it to Dr. Steve and I'll take good care of him.:D

[MasSalvaje]

They all look very good!

You better take good care of that Ery girl for me!

-Thomas

[Chondro788]

Thomas,
You know I will, she is doing very well, just need to decide on the best mate!! I'll probably throw the flame and the ery male with her and see what pops out if she goes. :)

[Chondro788]

Wayne, that female is gorgeous!!!! :eek:

[radtad]

They are all amazing snakes!!

[Chondro788]

New pic of my Infernalis and Similis, man blue is hard to capture in pics!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0224.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0217.jpg

[Mommy2many]

I can see it! I have a florida blue that is hard to see but in person/snake??? you can really tell.

[Jeff B]

That infernalis is amazing Jason, looks like he has a bit of a tude! :cool:

[Chondro788]

Yeah my infernalis is a little "nippy" but his attitude gives him his personality. Hopefully, I can get him some female couter parts this summer. This species is so cool, but I have not had the best of luck with young animals, so I hope to turn it all around this year and get some females growing so I can make some of my own. :confused:

[Chondro788]

I can see it! I have a florida blue that is hard to see but in person/snake??? you can really tell.

I bet maybe if we put them on a yellow backround the blue might really shine. Floridas sure are cool, I was unsure when they were young but now that have some size, they are so cool!!! :cool:

[Chondro788]

Pics of my Radix, I just have 3 so far. They were bought from Shane Castello, and he said the albinos were produced by Don, maybe he can confirm this. The normal is an adult WC female who gave birth to a neat little male that looks like Scott's "aztecs". The little male is living with a friend of mine, but will be bred back to his mom and sister when the time comes.

Female Nebraska Albino
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0264.jpg

Male Nebraska Albino
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0256.jpg

Normal WC Female
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0267.jpg

Updated pic of one of my Anery Red Sideds, she is very black and silver.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0266.jpg

And my snow eastern. She appears to be gravid, fingers crossed!! :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0268.jpg

[gregmonsta]

Love the anery red-sided ;)

[ConcinusMan]

I don't know about confirming but Jason, my female orange nebraska from Don looks exactly like yours. She continues to get more orange with each shed. Can't wait to see what she looks like as an adult. Should be stunning!
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1021/xmas015large.jpg

I'm really liking the snakes Don is putting out lately. Somehow he managed to use descendants of Scotts Christmas albinos to get orange coming out in his T- and T+ albinos. I'm only now realizing that Amy (supposedly an Iowa, at least she looked like one at birth) a 2009 albino from Don, is what I would consider a "christmas". He is getting crazy orange. He's ready to breed but I don't have any females he can use just yet.

Amy as a baby:

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6335/dscn0017lz.jpg

And now:
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/772/orangeamy007large.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9030/orangeamy021large.jpg

He's about to shed again. I'm betting he'll have even more orange when finished. He's been rapidly coloring up lately. Don told me when I bought him that he carried the christmas genes but I had no idea he would color up as one.

Sorry, didn't mean to overload your thread with my pics, but I'm pretty excited about what's going on with the orange. It's awesome.

[Mix]

Love the anery red-sided ;)

Want the anery red-sided! :D

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Nice looking group! I love the erythristic and schuett snow easterns.

[Chondro788]

Yeah those christmas radix are sweet, in both T+ and T-. :eek: The Anery red sided I think is one of the coolest morphs, and usually gets no "love" so I'm glad so many people are enjoying the pics of them!! :cool:

[ConcinusMan]

The anery red sided will get no love from me unless I happen to have an albino of the opposite sex.;)

[Chondro788]

Some new animals...

Albino sirtalis from Tom D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0295.jpg

Albino Flame sirtalis (in shed) from Tom D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0296.jpg

WC Female sirtalis
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0307.jpg

"Wanna be" Flame sirtalis
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0321.jpg

[Chondro788]

And some pics of some of my favorites...

Snow sirtalis (gravid and in shed)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0291.jpg

Similis (Possibly gravid)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0301.jpg

Double Het NY Albino/FL erythristic sirtalis
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0300.jpg

Flame sirtalis female
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0306.jpg

2010 WC sirtalis
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0325.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Very nice group.

[Chondro788]

A few more new aquisitions...

Albino Sirtalis Female from Tom D.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0359.jpg

Flame Het Albino Female from Tom D.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0360.jpg

More photos to come as they grow a little and are easier to photograph!! :D

[charles parenteau]

Very nice garter snake!!

[ConcinusMan]

I'll never get over the "snow" easterns. Can't help thinking they should have been called something else.

[Chondro788]

I like the name mocha, but that's just me. I wonder how the FL albino x melanistic snow will turn out?

[ConcinusMan]

How about "Melamel". I know, lame, but it's melanistic, yet amelanistic.

[Chondro788]

A few more new aquisitions...

Albino Flame
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0416.jpg

Albino Erythristics
Female
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0394.jpg


And Male...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0390.jpg

Little Snow I produced...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0419.jpg

And Female Blackneck!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0402.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

Sweet

[Chondro788]

Female Melanistic Het Snow
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0396.jpg

Female Albino
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0400.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

Nice snakes man. Love the melanistic

[guidofatherof5]

Very nice snakes. You do good.;)

[Chondro788]

And just to give credit where its due, the Albino Flame, Albino Erys, and normal albino are all from Tom D. He has some AWESOME stock, his animals always turn out so nice. The Eastern Blackneck I was lucky enough to get from Jeff B, she is an adult and ready to go. Her mate from Brad Baysinger should be here today!!! I hope they produce this spring!!! :cool:

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Awesome snakes man!

[BUSHSNAKE]

nice group Jason...maybe ill see you in Indy

[Chondro788]

Yeah it would be awesome to see you in Indy!! :cool: And on another note, my male eastern Blackneck came in yesterday, he is a smoker!! I will try and get picks of him up soon. I can't wait to put them together in the spring!!! :D

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah it would be awesome to see you in Indy!! :cool: And on another note, my male eastern Blackneck came in yesterday, he is a smoker!!

I would get him one of those smoke eating ashtrays. :p

[erinlovessnakes]

If you have any babies with those snakes tell me because I love snakes the most when they are tiny.

[RedSidedSPR]

Well, you better like them when they big, or there's no point in getting one :D

[Selkielass]

If you have any babies with those snakes tell me because I love snakes the most when they are tiny.

You might want to look into the smaller varieties of garters like Butlers Garters and IIRC Northwesterns.

My Butlers are full grown females, and they are only about 18-20 inches long, and weigh a fraction of my (still growing) Eastern. They are sweet tempered little things and they like to sit on their climbing branch and bask all day long.

[ConcinusMan]

If you have any babies with those snakes tell me because I love snakes the most when they are tiny.

Then you would love northwesterns. They often stay very tiny and "baby-like" for quite a bit longer than other garters. My Miss piggy is a northwestern and has been an adult for a few years. She's still under 25 inches. I've seen females give birth to one or two babies when mom was less than 18 inches long.:eek:

[kibakiba]

Yep northwesterns stay fairly small and grow very slowly. My 1 year old is only 6 inches :D

[RedSidedSPR]

Ok that is just weird..... :D my redside and eastern are 8 and 7 inches ad they're 2 and 1 month old...

[ConcinusMan]

I've seen small litters (less than 10 offspring) of T. sirtalis concinnus' born at around 7-10 inches and I've seen large litters of 30-50 of them born 5-7 inches. At the end of a year, they're all pretty much the same size. There doesnt' seem to be any advantage being born bigger or smaller other than a better survival rate among smaller litters.

All my northwestern litters have always been low numbers (1-7 offspring) AND small babies, 3-6 inches. At the end of a year, even they're thriving and growing well, they can still be only 6-7 inches at a year old. They are one species where size doesn't seem to matter an they are in no hurry to get big.

[kibakiba]

Nope, Runt was only 4 inches at a year old. Thumbelina is a male, so he's growing faster than she did.

[RedSidedSPR]

Wow. I knew northwesterns were small, but not THAT small

[ConcinusMan]

A male, 18 month old adult capable of breeding can be as small as 14 inches. Females can be up to 3 years old, sexually mature and ready to breed, at only 16-18 inches. I'll bet my miss piggy at around 2 feet, is already 4-5 years old and has had several litters in her lifetime so far. She's big for a northwestern.

After about 25 years of herping, the largest female northwestern I ever found (just last summer) was 2.5 feet long. She was at the end of her life and unusually large. Nearly a foot longer than what they normally top out at.

The point is, Northwesterns are the smallest species of garter. Litters are small, they are born small, and they don't grow to adult size very fast. They take their time. And yet, they are the most commonly encountered reptile where they occur.

[kibakiba]

Mama is about 1.5 feet, and 3-4 years. She's still growing a little bit, though.

[Chondro788]

This female just keeps getting redder!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0527.jpg

I love this flame, and shes het albino!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0529.jpg

My orange Nebraska albino, I hope she produces in the spring...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0531.jpg

And lastly, one of my albino Floridas, these guys are so cool, great little attitudes as well!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0520.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

Nice! Awesome flame! Love the florida, gotta love attitude.

[d_virginiana]

That Florida has to be one of the angriest looking garters I've ever seen lol. Nice flame too, I really like them :)

[Chondro788]

I received a package from Jeff Benfer today, and like always, was very satisfied!! Here's some pics...

Adult Female Double Het Snow (what can I say, I LOVE the snows!!!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0547.jpg

Sub Adult Red Radix (What do you think male or female?)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0545.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0546.jpg

Last but not least, Chicago Garter Het Green Axanthic!!! This is just 1 of a group Jeff sent me!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0548.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

Awesome!!!

I'd say female.

[guidofatherof5]

You've got a female radix there.
A good looking girl.
All those snakes are awwesome.

[katach]

Beautiful!

[d_virginiana]

Good looking snakes!

[woody44]

awesome pics!

[ConcinusMan]

Jeez, Jason, If you're going to buy her, hope you don't think that Tango is as orange as your nebraska. :o Yours has colored up a lot more than Tango has. When I say she's orange, I mean she's not the straw colored plain type of nebraska. She has an overall impression of being orange. Nothing like yours though!

[Chondro788]

You've got a female radix there.
A good looking girl.
All those snakes are awwesome.

Thanks Steve, I knew you would know for sure. Jeff was a little unsure, as was I, so I wanted that expert opinion!! ;) She just has a lean look like more males, but the tail sure looked female.



Jeez, Jason, If you're going to buy her, hope you don't think that Tango is as orange as your nebraska. :o Yours has colored up a lot more than Tango has. When I say she's orange, I mean she's not the straw colored plain type of nebraska. She has an overall impression of being orange. Nothing like yours though!

I know, I got really lucky with her. She is turning out to be a stunner!!! :D From what the guy said, I believe she is from the same clutch as yours.

[guidofatherof5]

Thanks Steve, I knew you would know for sure. Jeff was a little unsure, as was I, so I wanted that expert opinion!! ;) She just has a lean look like more males, but the tail sure looked female.

No expert here, just scene a lot of radix butts. :D

[Chondro788]

No expert here, just scene a lot of radix butts. :D

Don't be so humble... you da radix man!!! :D

[guidofatherof5]

That, I will take. Thanks.;)

[ConcinusMan]

No expert here, just scene a lot of radix butts. :D

I don't think that's something I would go bragging about.:p

[Mommy2many]

No expert here, just scene a lot of radix butts. :D


HHhhmmm....:D

[Chondro788]

Got a nice group of checkereds from member dashnu today!! Here are my favorites!!

Male Granite Checkered Poss Het Albino
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0571.jpg

Normal Poss Het Albino and Granite very light colors! :cool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0572.jpg

Female Granite Poss Het Albino
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0569.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

Sweet!

[guidofatherof5]

Love those granites.

[Chondro788]

I have been searching for granites for some time now, and was really excited to get these, as well as their parents, and a bunch of other babies produced from the double het parents. :)

[d_virginiana]

Nice. I'd never seen granite checkereds before.

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, they're pretty cool looking. There's also "pastel" like my Olivia.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLnt76Dl7IMi_RqzpehCeH4w9V214XG ILMzh7qA8G-bh0CU8Ba&t=1

You really should explore the Wiki pages on the forum. There's tons of articles and a photographic library showing lots of different garter morphs.

[Chondro788]

Here is my orange Canadian, this used to be owed by Tom D, and was produced by Don. She is a real beauty, I love her colors!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0573.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

Sweet!

[Chondro788]

And one of my Het Green Axanthic Chicago's from Jeff. These guys are really nice looking, love the caramel brown coloration.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0580.jpg

[Chondro788]

A nice little erythristic starting to color up. She was produced by Tom D.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0577.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking snakes Jason.

[ConcinusMan]

Here is my orange Canadian, this used to be owed by Tom D, and was produced by Don. She is a real beauty, I love her colors!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/chondro788/DSCN0573.jpg

Awesome! I was searching for those, and yellows like it, for quite some time but Don said he didn't have them anymore. Now you got one. Lucky dog!

[Chondro788]

I was fortunte enough to buy 6 of her offspring from this year, but dumb enough to sell them all!! So when I saw she was available, I had to have her. I also bought Tom's female that produced the yellow albino, so we will see... :D