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guidofatherof5
09-05-2010, 06:53 PM
It's been an unbelievable two days for me. It started out Sat. morning with a trip to Des Moines. I got to hold a very docile Copperhead. She's very old and failing fast. Her head was in her hide and I was able to hold the back half. My first experience with a hot.
Then in the evening I was able to get up close and personal with a number of very large snapping turtles. They averages 60 lbs each. At first they resisted my hands on them but quickly figured out everything was OK. One big male allowed me to give him a neck massage and a chin rub. This was all done from a back position. None of these Common Snappers(Chelydra serpentina) were aggressive as long as I stayed away from the front of their faces. It was quite an experience. I found that watching their eyes was a good indicator of their intentions. At first they were nervous but quickly calmed and seemed to enjoy the attention. I did meet one male that was a true predator. He was sizing up the situation at every moment and would launch a bit with lightning speed. I didn't attempt to work with him and he did come very close to grabbing my arm. I think some was food motivated but I think much was territorial.
This morning it was off to find some T.s.parietalis and hopefully some Timber Rattle Snakes. No T.s.p's were found but I did get some awesome photos of baby Timbers and some beautiful Milk snakes. I will be getting the photos and video ready and post it in the next couple of days.

guidofatherof5
09-05-2010, 07:45 PM
Here are some photos.
This Milk snake was clearly in opaque phase.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/milk.jpg

These Timber Rattle snake were found by their Hibernacle.
This is a young one.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/timber.jpg

Same snake after we pulled it out. It wasn't very happy but allowed some good photos to be taken.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/timber5.jpg

Here's a little bigger one. It was very curious about us.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/timber3.jpg

kibakiba
09-05-2010, 07:48 PM
Awesome pictures, Steve! That sounds like a lot of fun :D

ConcinusMan
09-05-2010, 08:13 PM
Awesome! it does sound like my kind of weekend. I noticed that even in the opaque phase, that milk is still quite red. Very nice.

If you had brought along some mice like a good human, perhaps one or both of those rattlers would have come out voluntarily to eat.:p

That first one does look very annoyed.

infernalis
09-05-2010, 09:14 PM
Awesome Steve....

guidofatherof5
09-05-2010, 09:20 PM
Awesome! it does sound like my kind of weekend. I noticed that even in the opaque phase, that milk is still quite red. Very nice.


The other Milk snake was very colorful. I'll have to get the photo off the other camera.

ConcinusMan
09-05-2010, 09:57 PM
Please do. I have a thing for them, ever since I was a kid and eventually I want to own an eastern milk that stays red into adulthood.

But hey, I just thought of something. I'm pretty sure milk snakes tend to stay red in Kansas and perhaps Iowa too. More so than in the eastern states.

guidofatherof5
09-06-2010, 07:12 AM
Here's one video from some snapping turtle time.
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Here's another of these awesome turtles. Most of these turtles were rescued from turtle butcheries throughout the U.S. My friend Mark has a great passion for these wonderful animals and I admire his efforts to save them. I also admire his wife for letting him have them.:D
No, he doesn't use his turtles as serving tables. The Cool Whip container was there for scaling purposes:D
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/hatchling_not.jpg

infernalis
09-06-2010, 07:24 AM
Steve, why does it look so green?

guidofatherof5
09-06-2010, 07:28 AM
Steve, why does it look so green?

Mercury vapor light treatment while his water was being drained. It really brings out the green in the algae.

ConcinusMan
09-06-2010, 07:29 AM
Green? That aint green. I've seen big old snappers with algae literally growing on them.

infernalis
09-06-2010, 07:53 AM
The lighting...............

Steve already answered. Thanks.

guidofatherof5
09-06-2010, 09:13 AM
Herp list for the weekend

(2) Red Milk snakes(Lampropeltis triangulum) HerpNet.net - Iowa Reptiles and Amphibians - Milk Snake - Lampropeltis triangulum (http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51&Itemid=26)
(2) Brown Snake(Storyia dekayi) HerpNet.net - Iowa Reptiles and Amphibians - Brown Snake - Storeria dekayi (http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=26)
(1) Ringneck Snake(Diadophis punctatus) HerpNet.net - Iowa Reptiles and Amphibians - Ringneck snake - Diadophis punctatus (http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=62&Itemid=39)
(6) Timber Rattle Snake(Crotalus horridus) HerpNet.net - Iowa Reptiles and Amphibians - Timber Rattlesnake - Crotalus horridus (http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=26)
(1) Cricket Frog(Acris crepitans) HerpNet.net - Iowa Reptiles and Amphibians - Cricket Frog - Acris crepitans (http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=43)
(Many) Bull Frog(Rana catesbeiana) HerpNet.net - Iowa Reptiles and Amphibians - Bullfrog - Rana catesbeiana (http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=26)
American Toad (Bufo americanus) HerpNet.net - Iowa Reptiles and Amphibians - American Toad - Bufo americanus (http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=43)

ConcinusMan
09-06-2010, 03:08 PM
Cool links:D

OK, that's it Steve. You must get me a red milk snake. A young and very red one.;)

I like the easterns but the red phase and they tend to dull and turn brown with age so I think it's a red milk from Iowa is what I'm really after.

guidofatherof5
09-29-2010, 06:03 AM
Here's that other Milk Snake I found on our trip.
Beautiful snake. Sorry it took so long to post. This photo was on the internal camera memory and I couldn't find the cable for downloading it, until this morning.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/iowa_milk_snake.jpg

MasSalvaje
09-29-2010, 06:22 AM
Very cool Steve! That is one of the best colored milks I have seen.

-Thomas

ConcinusMan
09-29-2010, 06:55 AM
A big adult and it's still red. Wow! OK, now you're just tormenting me.

gregmonsta
09-29-2010, 07:14 AM
Very nice :D a worthy excursion!!!