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MoJo
08-17-2010, 08:14 PM
I finally have some photos of my favorite garters!

I did not take a new photo of Tiger since I don't think I can beat the ones that I already have! She is a huge girl at just under 3 feet and could probably down an adult mouse but I won't give her anything larger than a hopper or a weanling. She produced 12 babies this year. I could not get 2 started and they are at Wayne's house along with one of only 3 males in the litter.

The father of all the Eastern Blackneck litters for the last 3 years is Billy Bob. After a good musking and a few bites this is what we could get!
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Billy_Bob_8-17-10.jpg

And finally my beloved Cheetah died last year and by chance I had held back one of her daughter's from her only clutch. Well I bred Cub back to Billy Bob and this last weekend she surprised me with 3 live born, one baby that never absorbed the yolk and did not make it out of its sac and a bunch of slug soup! I am thrilled with her babies and I hope that they will eat as well as Tiger's brood has been eating. Here's Cub.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Cub_8-17-10.jpg

Snakers
08-17-2010, 08:15 PM
Very nice snakes!

MoJo
08-17-2010, 08:16 PM
Here are two of Tiger's babies from this year.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/10-8_Billy_Bob_X_Tiger_1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/10-8_Billy_Bob_X_Tiger_2.jpg

MoJo
08-17-2010, 08:17 PM
And finally here are Cub's 3 little ones.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/10-9_Billy_Bob_X_Cub.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/10-9_Billy_Bob_X_Cub_2.jpg

Snakers
08-17-2010, 08:18 PM
That one in the middle in the second pic is incredible!

MoJo
08-17-2010, 08:29 PM
Thanks! Let's hope she'll eat, she's the runt!

guidofatherof5
08-17-2010, 08:32 PM
Very much awesomeness (I know it's not good grammar)

infernalis
08-17-2010, 08:53 PM
Thanks Joanna... Here are mine.... The plumper looking one is the male.

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakes/new/bn1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakes/new/bn2.jpg

MoJo
08-17-2010, 08:58 PM
Thanks for posting the photos. I hope those girls eat for you. They were not interested in my fish!

Ameivaboy
08-17-2010, 10:35 PM
They are very pretty :)

infernalis
08-17-2010, 10:41 PM
No interest in minnows yet here either. Going to go gather some alternate foods tomorrow.

Spankenstyne
08-18-2010, 12:54 AM
Very nice indeed!

sirtalis01
08-18-2010, 04:57 AM
if you could get your hand on some cricket frogs youll get them to feed....they love them...good luck wayne

infernalis
08-18-2010, 01:59 PM
baby toads ;)

justme
08-18-2010, 07:26 PM
Hi everyone! I purchased a beautiful pair from Joanna and received them yesterday. Today, I fed them both in a little feeding bin together with some pinkie parts scented with pacific tree frog slime and threw in some live guppies. They both ate it all including pinkie parts (perhaps the frog slime helped). Good luck Wayne with the trouble feeders and thank you Joanna! You are an awesome person to correspond and deal with and I am so grateful to have my new little babies!

Here is a pic I took of one of Mojo's babies right after being fed. ;-)

http://i33.tinypic.com/2d1ppg7.jpg

sirtalis01
08-18-2010, 07:46 PM
WOW that a nice pic......

MoJo
08-18-2010, 08:49 PM
Yay Karen! I am thrilled they took pinky parts already. I fed the remaining 7 I have from that group tonight and 3 took pinky parts with their fish. I was thrilled.

I have a second group that I tried to feed but they are not interested and since they were only born last Sunday it is still very early.

Love that photo Karen!

guidofatherof5
08-18-2010, 09:09 PM
Beautiful snake, Karen.
That snake has a full belly. Happy snake.:)

infernalis
08-18-2010, 09:48 PM
They all ate today.

Several bullfrog tadpoles each. ;)

justme
08-18-2010, 11:43 PM
Thanks Steve, Julio, and Joanna. I like the pic too! ;-)

And Wayne, that's fantastic news! Sounds like all of Joanna's beautiful babies ate well today! ;-) And now we can all sleep good tonight! Hehe.

ConcinusMan
08-19-2010, 03:48 AM
Gawd, those are awesome. Hope to have some for myself someday.

MoJo
08-19-2010, 07:26 AM
Yay Wayne! I am thrilled the other two ate. I hope they pan out for you and then you will have 1.3! I knew the boy would eat, he was one of my first eaters. I bet if you put tadpole mush on pinky parts he will eat that too!

infernalis
08-19-2010, 07:45 AM
Yay Wayne! I am thrilled the other two ate. I hope they pan out for you and then you will have 1.3! I knew the boy would eat, he was one of my first eaters. I bet if you put tadpole mush on pinky parts he will eat that too!

I hope it pans out too, I was blessed to find any small tadpoles at all in the middle of August & during a dry spell with all my mud holes dried out but one.

drache
08-19-2010, 08:46 AM
I am so wanting some of those I can't even bear to look

jitami
08-19-2010, 10:59 AM
I'm with you, Rhea! Such gorgeous snakes! Cub's baby with the thicker dorsal stripe is amazing! Hope she eats for you soon. I love her!

gartermorphs
08-19-2010, 12:04 PM
I realy hope you get that one with alot of yellow eating!

MoJo
08-19-2010, 12:54 PM
Me too! He is yours if he does. I will need to recheck his gender though!

gartermorphs
08-19-2010, 08:14 PM
lol i hope your better at it than me i dont want another mystery litter of baby snakes!:D

Scott F
08-20-2010, 01:08 PM
Hey Joanna,

Congrats on the babies, they are very sharp !

Scott
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MoJo
08-20-2010, 08:35 PM
Thanks Scott.

MoJo
09-04-2010, 12:42 PM
All the babies but one female is eating. I even have one taking only scented 1/2 pinkies.

infernalis
09-05-2010, 05:13 PM
All three of my babies are taking guppies readily now.

They are all alert and active.

justme
09-05-2010, 09:02 PM
My pair are doing great and both are eating cut up, unscented pinkies. They never miss a meal and both have already shed! ;-) Some more pics of my lovely babies from Joanna.....
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justme
09-05-2010, 09:03 PM
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kibakiba
09-05-2010, 09:08 PM
Beautiful snakes, Karen! They have such cute, innocent looking faces :D

infernalis
09-05-2010, 09:11 PM
Your photography is very nice Karen...

ConcinusMan
09-05-2010, 10:01 PM
Yeah, some people make it look so easy.

I agree though. Awesome photos and very awesome snakes.

guidofatherof5
09-05-2010, 10:08 PM
Beautiful photos.

Is that one of those living room snakes that no ones suppose to sit on:D

justme
09-06-2010, 11:54 AM
Thanks Chantel, Wayne, Steve, and Concinnus Man. I love taking pics and having such beautiful subjects sure helps! ;-)

MoJo
09-07-2010, 07:50 AM
Thanks for the updates guys. I love hearing about my babies.

ConcinusMan
09-07-2010, 05:35 PM
Thanks for the updates guys. I love hearing about my babies.


That reminds me. All you folks who have my concinnus better be forthcoming with the updates or I'll have to contract out Steve's mind control stealth ninja radixes to come to your houses and investigate.:p

guidofatherof5
09-07-2010, 06:09 PM
I don't hire out family.
Che te lo dico a fare!:D

mustang
09-07-2010, 06:45 PM
thats cool

ConcinusMan
09-07-2010, 06:53 PM
Come to think of it, it would be difficult for me to offer them anything compelling since they already have it all.:rolleyes:

mustang
09-07-2010, 06:55 PM
more mates maybe? the radix pb mansion lol theyll do anything!(males atleast)

ConcinusMan
09-08-2010, 04:29 AM
Not even that. It has been suggested that at certain times of the year, the T. radix ranch transforms into the "chicken ranch", or my personal favorite "The Mustang Ranch" for garter snakes. Nope. They got that too.

Try again!:p

infernalis
09-15-2010, 05:33 AM
One of them shed.. Found a skin stuck to the water bowl....

guidofatherof5
09-15-2010, 06:16 AM
One of them shed.. Found a skin stuck to the water bowl....

And then Wayne posted a photo.:D Of the snake not the shed:D

MoJo
09-15-2010, 10:45 AM
Wayne, did the latest female I sent you eat?

infernalis
09-15-2010, 12:36 PM
Wayne, did the latest female I sent you eat?

She's playing hard ball Joanne... The tadpole died yesterday. I left her with it for 6 hours.

She still has good mass to her, so I'm not real worried yet.

If still no luck this week, I will try a newt.

guidofatherof5
09-15-2010, 08:58 PM
I don't hire out family.
Che te lo dico a fare!:D

What I meant to say was,
Dimenticatene

MoJo
09-16-2010, 08:28 PM
Wayne,

I hope she eats for you soon. There were only three in that litter and I still have the runt male who is eating like a champ! I really expected him not to make it. She always looked really good so I hope she eats.

infernalis
09-22-2010, 03:44 PM
She ate for me today...2 fat tadpoles.

guidofatherof5
09-22-2010, 03:57 PM
Great news, Wayne.
Hoping much better days are on the way.;)

MoJo
09-23-2010, 08:43 PM
Yay! I am so happy that she ate for you. Her brother is eating scented pinky parts already so I hope she converts for you soon.

infernalis
10-11-2010, 12:42 AM
They are all eating chopped pinkie / Tilapia mix (AKA "Garter Goulash") with gusto now.

MoJo
10-12-2010, 09:02 AM
Woohoo!

infernalis
10-21-2010, 10:49 AM
All have shed now.

The little girl with the bad eye looks about the same after her shed, but it does not seem to bother her, she's active and eating.

MoJo
10-27-2010, 10:13 AM
I'm glad they are doing well for you. I am surprised that the girl with the growth on her eye is not bothered by it. It's very strange.

infernalis
10-27-2010, 10:28 AM
Does not appear to interfere with her quality of life at all.

Here is that last one that refused to eat, what a change. ;)

Having a whole group of these is awesome, thank you so much!!!


http://www.thamnophis.us/2010/blackneckeat.jpg

ConcinusMan
10-27-2010, 10:53 AM
Does not appear to interfere with her quality of life at all.

Here is that last one that refused to eat, what a change. ;)

Having a whole group of these is awesome, thank you so much!!!


http://www.thamnophis.us/2010/blackneckeat.jpg


Gorgeous. Looking pretty strong in spite of the fasting. One of my favorite garters and one species I intend to get some day.

lauwersp
10-27-2010, 11:37 PM
Extraordinary

zooplan
10-27-2010, 11:46 PM
How can they have such a gorgeous pattern and allways behave as such ugly beasts? ;)
I´ve never had a calm specimen of those kind and quit keeping them a while ago.

lauwersp
10-27-2010, 11:47 PM
Of these Eastern Blacknecks? or Garters in general...

infernalis
10-27-2010, 11:53 PM
How can they have such a gorgeous pattern and allways behave as such ugly beasts? ;)
I´ve never had a calm specimen of those kind and quit keeping them a while ago.

My big girl Mojo is quite calm.

zooplan
10-28-2010, 12:12 AM
Of these Eastern Blacknecks? or Garters in general...

:D only T.c.ocellatus

I´ve started keeping Garters about 20 years ago and want not stop for at least further two decades.

MoJo
10-28-2010, 11:21 AM
Wow she is a porker! I have two girls that are still here pending completion of a payment and I can not get them to accept anything that is not alive. aargh!

My girl Cheetah that died last year was a calm snake but my others are not. Then again I don't handle them that much. If they weren't so beautiful I am not sure I would still be breeding them! Their musk is the worst musk I have had the pleasure of experiencing!

infernalis
10-28-2010, 12:10 PM
That male baby I got from you this year is really calm by baby snake standards too.

I'm not really big on handling snakes, I like observing them through the glass.

Mojo was really skittish, but two years of getting fed outside her enclosure fixed that, if she wants to eat, she has to let me pick her up. ;)

infernalis
03-17-2011, 01:59 PM
Quick update on the babies.

They are now eating XS pinkies scented with trout.

The male is for whatever reason growing much faster than the girls are, but thats fine, I can pair him up with Mojo next season.

New pics sometime soon.


I'm glad they are doing well for you. I am surprised that the girl with the growth on her eye is not bothered by it. It's very strange.

She died a few weeks ago, I'm not upset over it, she had a good life even if it was extremely short. I think that growth was malignant, it kept getting bigger, then she expired.

The other 3 are very vibrant and excellent eaters.

BLUESIRTALIS
03-17-2011, 02:57 PM
Very nice.

brain
03-18-2011, 12:41 AM
They are now eating XS pinkies scented with trout.

Mine are still on live platties and mollies they wont' take the frozen XS pinks, trout or talpia.



The male is for whatever reason growing much faster than the girls are.

I lost one fem just wouldn't eat after transport and my male also is more of the eater.

MoJo
03-18-2011, 06:37 AM
Quick update on the babies.

They are now eating XS pinkies scented with trout.

The male is for whatever reason growing much faster than the girls are, but thats fine, I can pair him up with Mojo next season.

New pics sometime soon.



She died a few weeks ago, I'm not upset over it, she had a good life even if it was extremely short. I think that growth was malignant, it kept getting bigger, then she expired.

The other 3 are very vibrant and excellent eaters.

So sorry about the girl with the growth on her eye - I'm glad she had the time she had.

I wonder if I missexed the snakes and the "male" that is growing fast than the females is actually a female! I hope you have at least one male there! Let me know and I will make it up to you this year if I did make a mistake.

guidofatherof5
03-18-2011, 07:26 AM
So sorry about the girl with the growth on her eye - I'm glad she had the time she had.

I wonder if I missexed the snakes and the "male" that is growing fast than the females is actually a female! I hope you have at least one male there! Let me know and I will make it up to you this year if I did make a mistake.

Sounds like great customer service.

infernalis
03-18-2011, 10:24 AM
Sounds like great customer service.


Top notch all the way Steve, I recommend her to people all the time.

MoJo
03-18-2011, 01:19 PM
Thanks guys - it really could happen to anyone - those garter hemipenes are really tiny!

And I think I remember that Wayne really wanted a male so I would feel pretty badly if he didn't have one.

infernalis
03-18-2011, 05:35 PM
Thanks guys - it really could happen to anyone - those garter hemipenes are really tiny!

And I think I remember that Wayne really wanted a male so I would feel pretty badly if he didn't have one.

Hey now, I have a sweet little colony of blacknecks going on, I couldn't be happier.:cool:

brain
04-24-2011, 08:19 PM
My scrubs are still on live fish, patties’, guppies and Danios.
However, today while doing some land clearing I came across three green tree frogs, snatched them up and my Blacknecks devoured them so fast. Amazing. I wish I could get frogs more often.

infernalis
04-25-2011, 11:17 AM
http://www.thamnophis.us/random/mow.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/random/nom.jpg

guidofatherof5
04-25-2011, 11:57 AM
Happy Blackneck.

infernalis
04-25-2011, 12:25 PM
They grow so fast.. still juvenile size, but growing like weeds.

RedSidedSPR
04-25-2011, 04:51 PM
So... freakin'... awesome. Black necks may just be my favorite kind of garter. Definitely in my top 5.

infernalis
04-25-2011, 05:16 PM
So... freakin'... awesome. Black necks may just be my favorite kind of garter. Definitely in my top 5.

Same way I felt the first time I ever saw a picture of one, I simply had to get one.. Now there are 4 I'm giddy like a little girl.

brain
04-27-2011, 12:43 AM
http://www.thamnophis.us/random/mow.jpg


Man I have to try again. I'm starting up my mouse farm again maybe the live pink wil work. I'm jealous :(

drache
04-27-2011, 07:57 AM
those are very nice