My Friend Flicker

[Flicker]

I decided to make my own thread for when I want to post about my snake. *ahem* That wasn't in the "hello lounge" or the "what gender is my snake" post. ^_^ If this isn't the right spot to put this, please move it.

Flicker shed today and is back in his beautiful red colors - and of course... HUNGRY - cause he doesn't eat for a week or two before shedding. So, I fed him a slug - he turned his nose up at wild caught salmon. :-/

Here he is - in an awesome shot of consuming a rather large slimey beastie!

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p156/thedbor/Flicker/Flickersslug001.jpg

[kibakiba]

That's how snakey is, He turns his nose to worms now and will only eat a pinky. Mamas a pig and will eat pinkies or worms. Haha. Flicker is a darn cute snake :D He looks like he's enjoying his fine little delicacy ;)

[ConcinusMan]

Are you sure you're going to be able to stand not having him for a little while? I might have to brumate him for a couple of months starting in late Oct. if we're going through with the mating to my red stripe girl. We might get lucky and they'll mate just by simulating the fall season though. I'm thinking we can give that a try after she has her current babies.

[Flicker]

Here's another picture of Flicker, now that he has shed and is back in the "red"

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p156/thedbor/Flicker/flickerlounging005.jpg

[Flicker]

That's how snakey is, He turns his nose to worms now and will only eat a pinky. Mamas a pig and will eat pinkies or worms. Haha. Flicker is a darn cute snake :D He looks like he's enjoying his fine little delicacy ;)


Flicker is so funny - cause he can be hard to get to eat sometimes... but after shedding - zomg - what an absolute pig he can be... just gorges himself.

[i_heart_sneakie_snakes]

Here's another picture of Flicker, now that he has shed and is back in the "red"

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p156/thedbor/Flicker/flickerlounging005.jpg

WOW!!! He is so gorgeous :eek:

[ConcinusMan]

Yes he is, and he looks to be a good healthy weight. Don't worry about his occasional not wanting to eat. That's pretty typical of northwesterns, including the feeding frenzy after shedding. My red stripe girl can't wait to meet him!

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5274/gedc1462.jpg

[flickerfriend]

Wow. flicker Is being a pretty snake right now.

[Snakers]

Erythrisitic?

[Flicker]

Erythrisitic?
I don't know what that means. <.<

[Snakers]

High red pigment, I was wondering if thats what hes considered.....

[Flicker]

High red pigment, I was wondering if thats what hes considered.....
Could be, I have no idea how one makes that determination. But he's definitely got a lot of red in him. It was the first thing I noticed when I found him... and wondered what kind of snake he was.

I thought maybe the red would fade as he got older, but it hasn't, not at all. ^_^

[Snakers]

Could be, I have no idea how one makes that determination. But he's definitely got a lot of red in him. It was the first thing I noticed when I found him... and wondered what kind of snake he was.

I thought maybe the red would fade as he got older, but it hasn't, not at all. ^_^
Very beautiful snake!

[ConcinusMan]

On the contrary, I believe that the red pigment increases as they mature from babies to adults. You won't find babies with all that red. Also, I don't know if I'd consider this "high red" or whatever. You can basically call it what you want. It's actually not all that uncommon for northwesterns to have flecks or areas of red pigment giving the impression that they have been splattered with, or crawled through red paint. It's just that this particular snake has an exceptionally large amount of that red pigment. It's not a mutation or anything like that so I don't think I'd call it "hypererythristic" but one could call it that I suppose.

[BUSHSNAKE]

you should practice what you preach

[ConcinusMan]

OK, what is it now BUSHSNAKE? Go ahead and say what you have to say and stop being so cryptic.:rolleyes:

[Snakers]

On the contrary, I believe that the red pigment increases as they mature from babies to adults. You won't find babies with all that red. Also, I don't know if I'd consider this "high red" or whatever. You can basically call it what you want. It's actually not all that uncommon for northwesterns to have flecks or areas of red pigment giving the impression that they have been splattered with, or crawled through red paint. It's just that this particular snake has an exceptionally large amount of that red pigment. It's not a mutation or anything like that so I don't think I'd call it "hypererythristic" but one could call it that I suppose.
um sorry??????

[ConcinusMan]

"Hypererythristic" Sorry, not exactly the correct term. "Hypoerythristic" would mean a marked, significant reduction in red pigment on a normally red snake. "Erythristic" would be a condition marked by exceptional prevalence of red pigmentation.

Since northwesterns aren't necessarily red at all, and some have more red than others, I wouldn't call this snake "erythristic". Northwesterns are famous for their polymorphism so it's difficult to consider a high red snake like this, "erythristic" since red pigment on a northwestern varies, or is absent in a perfectly normal snake. However, if someone wanted to call this snake "erythristic" as a descriptive term, it wouldn't necessarily be a wrong label. I guess that's what I was getting at.:cool:

Flicker, the Northwestern garter snake, certainly has an exceptional amount of red pigment. Truly a rare find considering the huge numbers of snakes to be found that lack red at all.

[Snakers]

"Hypererythristic" Sorry, not exactly the correct term. "Hypoerythristic" would mean a marked, significant reduction in red pigment on a normally red snake. "Erythristic" would be a condition marked by exceptional prevalence of red pigmentation.

Since northwesterns aren't necessarily red at all, and some have more red than others, I wouldn't call this snake "erythristic". Northwesterns are famous for their polymorphism so it's difficult to consider a high red snake like this, "erythristic" since red pigment on a northwestern varies, or is absent in a perfectly normal snake. However, if someone wanted to call this snake "erythristic" as a descriptive term, it wouldn't necessarily be a wrong label. I guess that's what I was getting at.:cool:

Flicker, the Northwestern garter snake, certainly has an exceptional amount of red pigment. Truly a rare find considering the huge numbers of snakes to be found that lack red at all.
Thank you for clearing it up:)

[ConcinusMan]

Well everyone, the time has come. That red boy named Flicker, finally met my red stripe girl today. How did he react?

Well, Flicker (username) said that Flicker (the snake) seemed "lonely" and enjoyed the company of other garter snakes. I first introduced him to some baby snakes and he was not only a very sweet snake, tame and calm, but also very inquisitive, "sniffing" everything, with his tongue going faster than I have ever seen. checking out every snake, corner and crevice.

Then I introduced my red stripe girl. He was on her like flies on a pile of ships. I'm pretty sure he likes her a lot and I don't think he's "lonely" exactly. The real word for it is what you call a short fat lizard known as the "horny" toad. He didn't have evil intentions but he did act "devilish" if you know what I mean.:rolleyes:

Anyway, I have HD video of his enthusiastic efforts but I'll post that later to youtube. For now, here's a pic of the two together. They make a great couple, don't you think?

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1949/flicker002large.jpg

[MlizGr]

Oh, they are lovely together! You're going to have to post pics of the babies as soon as they're born!

[ConcinusMan]

Oh jeez, of course I always post pics of all my snakes and litters born.

Let's get past the introductions (first date) and get an actual mating, oh and then there's the gestation period and then, fingers crossed, live babies at some point.

I hear you. The outward appearance of the genetic makeup of these two are awesome. And they even come from the same "Neighborhood", meaning they were found with 1 mile of each other. I do hope she will change her attitude toward him after a good brumating (hibernation) period.

Right now, she seems as repulsed by him as he is attracted to her. Basically a "geek" trying to get a date with the prom queen at this point. She literally flung him off of her (kicked him in the nuts) at one point and fled to hide. I don't think she's impressed at all but she did just give birth about 2 months ago. At the same time, I've never seen a male snake put so much effort and put so many moves on a girl. I mean, he's flamin' hot for her.:D

For now I'll keep them separated. Both will get a major cool-down and shortened days, then I'll try again. If I don't get a lock, then they both go in the fridge for few months (50 degrees) and I'll try again in the spring. If nothing else, I got nice male orange stripe and I'll try and see if she likes him.:cool:

[Selkielass]

Wow, that looks like a dream match right there, I sure hope it proves out for you!