Garter Snake or not

[eehle]

I have two snakes to be identified. My un-educated guess is that they are garter snakes (common and eastern) by comparing it to pics on google. But I would like to be sure and kindly ask for some help to identify them. I live in Bromont, Quebec Canada the picture of the more golden/brown snake was taken today in my back yard, which is in southern Quebec
the other one with more black lines was taken last year in eastern Ontario, Hawkesbury to be exact.

[infernalis]

need pics to identify.....

[eehle]

I thought I had attached the pics, sorry, will try again, it is my first forum entry

[eehle]

second try

[BUSHSNAKE]

both look like Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis

[adamanteus]

Yes, they both look like T.s.sirtalis to me.

[Hollis_Steed]

I thought I had attached the pics, sorry, will try again, it is my first forum entry
eehle, Welcome to the forum!:) from Utah

[eehle]

Thank you guys for your help

[Mommy2many]

Welcome to the forum!

[infernalis]

http://www.thamfriends.com/mat.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Welcome to the forum.
Any chance that first snake could be a T.S.parietalis?(Red-sided Garter Snake)

[Odie]

Hi, from Oregon, eehle :)

[mustang]

welcome from Texas