How flatworms get into a garter snake

[infernalis]

Works something like this....

http://www.thamnophis.us/thams/flatworm.jpg

[mustang]

ooo i learned this in enviormental science ap!....flat worm part not garter tho

[infernalis]

A very good reason NOT to feed wild caught frogs to your snakes. ;)

[mustang]

true...o look the 6-8 legged frog is shown on the bottom didnt i read that on a post recently ....

[Stefan-A]

Don't forget, folks: There are parasites that use fish as hosts, as well. Amphibians aren't the only ones that can transfer them to snakes.

[infernalis]

true...o look the 6-8 legged frog is shown on the bottom didnt i read that on a post recently ....

I think the illustration is supposed to depict a swimming frog.


Don't forget, folks: There are parasites that use fish as hosts, as well. Amphibians aren't the only ones that can transfer them to snakes.

http://www.thamnophis.us/thams/fishworm.jpg

[mustang]

i know ...just looking at the now average high school drop outs perception of it :) lol

[Mommy2many]

Hate to say it but if you look at the bird in the model, he is eating a 5 legged frog!!!

[mustang]

Hate to say it but if you look at the bird in the model, he is eating a 5 legged frog!!!
o wow didnt see that earlier COOL :D three mile island heron! what are its deffects?lol

[guidofatherof5]

Hate to say it but if you look at the bird in the model, he is eating a 5 legged frog!!!

I believe that is a 6 legged frog:D

[mustang]

I believe that is a 6 legged frog:D
zoomed in on it only 5 legs are visable but if we want our insectXamphibian cross to be perfect than 6 it is!

[ConcinusMan]

A very good reason NOT to feed wild caught frogs to your snakes. ;)

All these years, I always have:eek: Never had any problems though. But earlier this spring I had a WC ordinoides that wouldn't eat and was losing weight. It passed a dead tape worm into it's water dish.

[Mommy2many]

http://www.thamnophis.us/thams/flatworm.jpg

I think what you perceive as the 6th leg is actually the beak of the bird!

[ConcinusMan]

No, there is a frog pictured with 6 legs.

[guidofatherof5]

All these years, I always have:eek: Never had any problems though. But earlier this spring I had a WC ordinoides that wouldn't eat and was losing weight. It passed a dead tape worm into it's water dish.

I'm sure many if not most wild garter snakes have some kind of parasite/s.
They may live a long life with them as long as the load isn't to heavy and their health stays good. They may never show any signs that they are infected.
I have also seen how these parasites will quickly bring an older snake to its death.
Richard,
I've read a few post from you and I felt you were implying it's OK to feed w/c snakes frogs and other wild food items but that those food items shouldn't be fed to c/b snakes.
Whether a snake is possibly carrying a parasite shouldn't matter. Introducing any possible parasite harboring food should be avoided.

[mustang]

No, there is a frog pictured with 6 legs.
mommy2many & i were reffering to the one in the herons mouth.....that has 5 (6th leg aint visable)the big one has 6 legs

[Mommy2many]

Exactly!

[ConcinusMan]

I think the illustration is supposed to depict a swimming frog.


Well I dunno 'bout that. It still has six legs as it's being eaten by the bird too. I think it's because frogs with extra legs is supposedly caused by some sort of parasite.

[mustang]

Well I dunno 'bout that. It still has six legs as it's being eaten by the bird too. I think it's because frogs with extra legs is supposedly caused by some sort of parasite.
no it could be a different frog, and wouldnt it be caused by gentics?

[ConcinusMan]

No.

DEFORMED FROG MYSTERY (http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA08/frog11.php)

[GarterGeek]

Well I dunno 'bout that. It still has six legs as it's being eaten by the bird too. I think it's because frogs with extra legs is supposedly caused by some sort of parasite.

You are correct!I watched a show on either the Discovery or National Geographic channel a long time ago that mentioned these parasites. They actually do cause frogs to grow extra appendages. :)

[GarterGeek]

Oopsy, accidental double-post. :( I'm sorry about that. :o

[ConcinusMan]

No.

DEFORMED FROG MYSTERY (http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA08/frog11.php)

:D

[mustang]

according to some experts? the meteorologist are experts are they always right? doctors are experts are they always right? expeirenced gamblers are experts but do you see them making money? no they arent/dont (but its a major possability) unless they are certain then its still just a possability...(article said according to some experts....not all of em just some of em) media also jumps the gun sometimes on findings.

[ConcinusMan]

Actually, when I lived in Reno I met many people that make a darn good living gambling.:p

[mustang]

Actually, when I lived in Reno I met many people that make a darn good living gambling.:p
i made $100 off a scratch off i got for christmas dad and i won a kayak at an academy grand opening. huge drawing we won a boat but took money and got a kayak instead (boat wasnt that good) i also won a power drill at harbor freight

[ConcinusMan]

But EXPERT has nothing to do with PROFESSIONAL. That gamblers that make a living don't claim to be experts but they are professionals since many of them make hundreds of thousands a year.

[mustang]

But EXPERT has nothing to do with PROFESSIONAL. That gamblers that make a living don't claim to be experts but they are professionals since many of them make hundreds of thousands a year.
...ok well if not everyone is posotive (instead of some, all experts should agree right) than it is still debatable?

[ConcinusMan]

Of course it is. At one time, nearly everyone was positive that the earth was flat, even the "experts"

[Stefan-A]

http://www.thamnophis.us/thams/fishworm.jpg
Point being?

[ConcinusMan]

Of course it is. At one time, nearly everyone was positive that the earth was flat, even the "experts"


Point being?

I don't know, ask mustang, he started it. I guess he's highly skeptical when an article mentions discoveries made by experts?

[infernalis]

Ya know, earlier today I saw this really cool special on Discovery channel, all I wanted to do is share what I saw.

I can clearly see that I chose the wrong place to share what I saw.

[ConcinusMan]

Not really, I had already posted pretty much what you said so I guess the blame is on me once again. You're off the hook.

[infernalis]

It's not your fault Richard, I grabbed that illustration off the internet, I didn't really count the legs on the frog.

[ConcinusMan]

oh, that. OK, then it is your fault. Everybody throw rocks at Wayne! I would, but I don't want to break my monitor. It's a 42 inch HDTV.

[mustang]

I don't know, ask mustang, he started it. I guess he's highly skeptical when an article mentions discoveries made by experts?
ME:eek: y me i never start aything... i just end things and intervine:cool:
oh also
http://www.momsrising.org/files/5leggedFrog.png
1,2,3,4,and 5 legs
next contestant(the more seirius imgs looked cruddy so homourus it is
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ovJS1Em-6dg/RxhD-RCYqFI/AAAAAAAAPx0/Wtq5hATrGiA/s400/frog.jpg

and if thats wierd i got one thing to say....you aint seen nuthn yet
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hf6xT6xenbE/Sb3oaKksbfI/AAAAAAAAEj0/rd1MzucI6zs/s400/3headed6leggedfrog.jpgto scientific thoughts on this little freakazoidBritish Science Association : Problems with solutions (http://www.britishscienceassociation.org/web/ccaf/CREST/FreeProjectIdeas/MoreProjectIdeas/DetectiveWork/WhatsAroundUs/index.htm)

thers 5 legged and 6 legged...and somthing mother nature really didnt put a lot of time and effort into...that should prove whatever point i made:D