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redspot
06-03-2010, 08:45 PM
I'm pretty sure this is a female, she looks the part and probed shallow. She comes right out of the cage and up my arm... weird.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/tokaysrnice/Thamnophis/DSC03966.jpg

This snake is for sure a gravid female, she is almost all black and white with just a little blue on her head. She was bred by my Blue redspot and who who knows what else.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/tokaysrnice/Thamnophis/DSC03978.jpg

Both these snakes eat anything offered, they would probably eat little smokies if I tried.

guidofatherof5
06-03-2010, 09:34 PM
Beautiful snakes.
Keep those photos coming.
Looking forward to seeing some baby photos in the future.

ConcinusMan
06-04-2010, 01:46 AM
Let it be known that the anery in the second pic is the anery strain from the same population that shannon has a pair of them. I call them Anerythristic "green glow strain".

I've seen anery concinnus before, and they've been around for some years, but these, I really love. It was an honor to watch those anery's slithering around and pausing for photos in NW Oregon. People were taking photos and pointing, and...

Even people who aren't fond of snakes took time to observe them and the snakes were very cooperative. That's awesome.

I do have one hypoery male from the same area and you're right. He eats anything. Pinkies, silversides, night crawlers, frog meat, slugs, you name it.

infernalis
06-04-2010, 05:45 AM
Very handsome animals, thanks for sharing the pics.

drache
06-04-2010, 07:01 AM
nice snakes
thanks for the photos

gregmonsta
06-04-2010, 10:26 AM
Pretty girls :D

redspot
06-04-2010, 10:52 AM
Thanks guys They are pretty cool little snakes.

Regarding what to call them I don't know if I would consider green glow as they all seem to vary quite a bit, from white to green to blue with some showing different shades of all of them. I've seen literally hundreds of these snakes and the second pic is the "whitest" one I've seen. The top snake really stood out from the rest of the snakes in this area with the high orange and white/green stripe and patches on the ventral scales.

Alan St. John describes these snakes in his field guide "Reptiles of the Northwest" and I have talked to several others who have found them in varying locales. I'm pretty sure my buddy Mike was the first "herpticulturist" to keep them when he collected several from this location 2 or 3 years ago. I need to see how his babies have turned out.

ConcinusMan
06-04-2010, 01:41 PM
No kidding! If someone has already been breeding these, they really need to share what they know!

Well, your female looks just like every one I've seen. They were all lacking red/orange and had a green or blueish glow. Any I've seen that had some very light orange(almost yellow) (hypoerythristic) lacked the green glow.

That's about as much variation as I observed. Most of them I saw were the anery's but there were also a few hypo's and I didn't see ANY normals in that area. (doesn't mean they aren't there) and I saw perhaps a total of 3 dozen on my visits to the area.

Snaky
06-04-2010, 02:01 PM
Those look very nice! :)