Flame babies

[garterchick]

The first of hopefully 2 flame litters arrived a little over a week ago. 17 healthy little guys, most of them eating chopped night crawlers and I think before the end of this week the rest will follow their example.
I also had a litter of pugets drop but mostly jellies and several stillborn. One good-looking survivor made it so far but hasn't eaten yet, so we'll see...
Yes, I know, pictures are required. I'll do my best to post some tonight.

[infernalis]

The one I got 2 years ago from Tina.....

Then,

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakes/Flame.jpg

and now.

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakes/masubius4.jpg

[garterchick]

Thanks Wayne, that's like free advertising.

[infernalis]

your welcome... I show that flame off every chance I get.

[charles parenteau]

nice congrats!!!

[drache]

congrats Tina
here's another of your babies from a couple of years ago
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3516/3987655923_a3a0a95ba7.jpg
and he's got a really nice disposition too

[charles parenteau]

congrats Tina
here's another of your babies from a couple of years ago
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3516/3987655923_a3a0a95ba7.jpg
and he's got a really nice disposition too


sick!!!

[garterchick]

As usual, you can't really see what they actually look like thanks to my outstanding photography skills, but there are some nice red ones in there, among the requisite number of low-end babies.

[guidofatherof5]

All beautiful in the eyes of the garter Gods.:D

[Scott F]

Congrats Tina, very nice babies !

Scott
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[Spankenstyne]

Congrats. The pictures being posted are fantastic

[ConcinusMan]

Alright wayne. That's about enough. The pics of these smokin' hot flames is making be too darn envious. What's it going to take for me to get just one darnit. I don't want to pay a lot of money!

[infernalis]

Thing with flames is that some get deeper red as they age, and some lose red as they age. It's hard to predict what they will look like when all grown up.

[BUSHSNAKE]

congrats!

[garterchick]

Well, when I came home from work tonight the 2nd installment of flame babies was made. "Big Red" had 27 healthy, some rather large, youngn's, 1 stillborn. So now I'm flush with red, white is still to come (albino checkered), and with any luck some more blue (pugets).

[guidofatherof5]

Sounds like things are going well. Congratulations.

[bkhuff1s]

Yes... must have pictures, to torture me.

[Charis]

Congrats on all of those flame babies! How is the one lone Puget doing? We need pics of him & the other Puget litter(s) as they come too!

[ConcinusMan]

"Big Red" had 27 healthy, some rather large, youngn's, 1 stillborn.

There it is. Now you see, that's what a litter should look like. That's what I would expect. Sometimes not as good, sometimes even better, but here lately it seems that slugs and very few viable offspring are the norm especially for the breeders out there striving for more expensive morphs or new morphs. Flames are pretty much a wild snake. I mean, gorgeous flames are found in the wild. It just seems that after too dang many generations of captive breeding, inbreeding, morph crossing, etc... fertility goes to heck in a handbasket. Am I wrong?

[Tyrel26]

i agree with conman, i too have noticed the unusual births being posted here and i don't think it can be all blamed on heat sources and stress. Its just like breeding guppies; put 10 in a tank and for a few months you will get lots of healthy babies. After those few months pass it doesn't look so pretty anymore when you start getting babies shaped like a V or the female gives birth to all dead fish. Yet if you add in a couple new fish...problem solved (for a little while) As for fertility "going to hell in a handbasket" i think this is natures way of saying you are not benefiting your species..."no babies for you!!!"

I guess this is the price of "beauty" and the word deformed can be looked at in many ways. I also seen that someone had "dwarf" snakes born this year but will never breed them due to weaker genes. that may be true but its because of dwarfs and other such individuals that we have some of the dog breeds we do.

[garterchick]

Ok, here are some more pictures, don't know if they're any better. Notice the little bit of blue in a "sea of red".

[Charis]

Those are all pretty good. Thanks for posting them! The flames are very neat, but gotta love that Puget!

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking little scrubs. Baby garters are so cool.

[charles parenteau]

Wow they look great !!!

[ConcinusMan]

Great looking little scrubs. Baby garters are so cool.

Cool flames?

[oki-inu]

Wanted to show off my recent acquisitions from Tina.

The male:

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/92912/45520_95815_VeryLarge_8SVKTSKMeGjbFr.jpg

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/92912/45520_95816_VeryLarge_EhXAh7iKTIClfq.jpg

And the female:

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/92912/45521_95818_VeryLarge_ybekSM1zVHa32W.jpg

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/92912/45521_95817_VeryLarge_nLqCVh7h4xj.jpg

[drache]

very nice
and yes, I'm a little envious

[infernalis]

The lady is bright.

Big congratulations!

[guidofatherof5]

No showing off needed. They do it for themselves. Beautiful snakes.