I think I am in love

[lokai99]

I have been trying and trying to narrow down just which species I want to begin my garter journey with and I am VERY taken with the black necked garters. I seem to be drawn to snakes with nice facial markings. Can someone tell me a little about their experience with black necked garters? How much do they typically go for as in did I pick a crazy expensive one to start with? Is anyone expecting any babies from a black necked this year?Steve has really done a good job of peaking my interest in radix though.

[ConcinusMan]

Just take the radix. You won't be disappointed. If you want something more colorful, I'll see what I can do about getting you a T. sirtalis concinnus, or other members are expecting litters too. Black necked aren't widely available as far as I know. They are one of the few garters found in desert regions and their wild populations are shrinking. Not your typical garter, and not for beginners.

I would highly recommend a young female T. radix,(plains garter) T.s. concinnus, (oregon red-spotted garter) or T. marcianus. (checkered garter) or even a T. sirtalis sirtalis (eastern garter)

Widely available, and all great garters. I think that T. s. infernalis may be a bit more expensive and not as available as the above mentioned garter snakes. Black necked, forget 'bout it! (or not? :o)

[lokai99]

Haha what can I say I have expensive taste . You give sound advice in a no bs kind of way, I like that.

[infernalis]

Contact Joana Duby at Mojo Herps..... I just love my Blackneck and she was only $80

Shannon also bred hers this season. contact.. http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/member.php?u=2626

http://www.thamfriends.com/photos/moj.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/PG1/images/mojotank.jpg

http://www.thamfriends.com/MPFG/images/hpim3275.jpg

http://www.thamfriends.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=51&pictureid=1383

[Spankenstyne]

All great advice & awesome garters mentioned. If it's facial markings are your thing, checkereds are right up there:

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Thamnophis/tham2cjune1509.jpg

[drache]

personally I've got no experience with black-necks, but if it's facial markings you're interested in, I'd say go with a checkered
radix have nice ones too

[ConcinusMan]

Blacknecks sure are pretty though!

[garterchick]

I'm once again hoping to have a litter of blacknecks but in past years that hasn't really panned out. Keeping my fingers crossed.....

[infernalis]

I'm once again hoping to have a litter of blacknecks but in past years that hasn't really panned out. Keeping my fingers crossed.....


If that works out for you Tina, I need a male.

[garterchick]

I'll let you know, Wayne.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

As of yesterday, I'm expecting a clutch of eastern blacknecks. The big female I got from Tommy is gravid. She's a CB girl herself and boy is she stocky! She's a good size so I should have enough to go around! :D My male showed no interest in breeding this year, I think he was right on the verge of being ready and that he's still a little confused :D. I have 2 males now, one of which is a proven breeder and so next year, I'll be good to go with 2.3 EB's.

[lokai99]

Wow those were some pretty snakes. Thank you for posting pictures it really gives more to look at than a single pic and general species info. If they are in the $80 range I can do that. Shannon, how much would you be selling them for? I'll keep my fingers crossed for all those expecting babies.. I really think this is the one I want.

[MoJo]

I'm hoping for one, maybe two litters but I never know! Last year my big girl slugged out except for one tiny baby that did not make it and one female.

I should know in a couple of months if I the breeding was successful this year!

[ssssnakeluvr]

As of yesterday, I'm expecting a clutch of eastern blacknecks. The big female I got from Tommy is gravid. She's a CB girl herself and boy is she stocky! She's a good size so I should have enough to go around! :D My male showed no interest in breeding this year, I think he was right on the verge of being ready and that he's still a little confused :D. I have 2 males now, one of which is a proven breeder and so next year, I'll be good to go with 2.3 EB's.
hmmm...my male is a little small....didn't do anything at all.... might have to send my female out next winter so she can get a little action....:cool: