Finally.......

[ssssnakeluvr]

my first litter was born today. Oregon red spots!!! my older girl had 14 live, 2 dead, and 1 slug. I will get some pics and post here soon....

[prattypus]

woot woot-

[charles parenteau]

COngrad !!Wait for picture!!!

[ConcinusMan]

Not bad. Dangit, I saw this thread and thought you had a mate for Amy. *sigh*

My gravid red stripe ordinoides was seen "twitching" this morning. Nothing major, but I think she's getting close to that time.:D

[guidofatherof5]

Great news Don. Looking forward to some photos.

[ssssnakeluvr]

here's pics!!

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF3005-2.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF3019-3.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF3007-3.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF3008-3.jpg

[Stefan-A]

Congratulations!

[ssssnakeluvr]

there's 3 babies that I have some concerns over....real dark looking and 2 aren't real active.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF3011-1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF3021-3.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF3016-2.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF3017-2.jpg

[Jeff B]

Congrats Don!!!
couple dark looking ones in the litter, interesting

[ConcinusMan]

Those black one's are really odd. No mutant genes in the parents? I mean, those look melanistic or possibly axanthic? Wow. They're different. New morph perhaps? I've never heard of concinnus that look quite like that. I hope they make it.

Overall though, a great lucking sturdy bunch.

[ssssnakeluvr]

no mutant genes I know of....mother is a w/c female that I got from a friend, the male is a son of hers from a few years back. no odd ones last year either.... hopefully they will do good!!!

[ConcinusMan]

Very strange. If you think about it, all mutated (abnormal) genes started with one or two snakes somewhere along the line. Maybe this is new and can be passed on.

Wait a sec, you said the male is a son of hers. Maybe she was het for this trait and the son ended up het too. Breed him back to mom and vioala! Homozygous babies.

Whatever happened, it's exciting to see. My jaw would have hit the floor if a "normal" pair of my snakes produced something like that. Congrats!

Now we got green anery's AND whatever yours are. Maybe we can combine these somehow and come up with something completely different in the future.

[Scott F]

Congrats Don ! Hope the dark ones make it for you.

Scott

[snakeman]

congrats!

[jitami]

Congrats Don! Hope the dark ones make it... I really like them!

[ssssnakeluvr]

bummer.....the 2 dark ones passed away last night. the other dark one is doing just fine tho!!

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

always a silver lining! I hope that one makes it for you :)

I am expecting some concinnus soon :D
as well as babies from my carteret cty erythristic het albino
and I think I am feeling some little bumps in my axanthic plains!

eeeeeeek!

[guidofatherof5]

Sorry to hear about the passing of the 2 dark ones.
Keep us posted on the others and don't forget the photos. Please.

[charles parenteau]

NIce litter congratulation!!!

[gregmonsta]

Congrats on that concinnus goodness :D

[ssssnakeluvr]

here's a couple new shots of a few babies.....

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF4001-1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF4004-1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF4006-1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF4018.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF4021-1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF4023-1.jpg

[ssssnakeluvr]

and here's about the only decent shot of one little dark one....little fellas just won's sit still!!

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF4016-1.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking little scrubs.

[drache]

lovely babies
congrats, Don

[ConcinusMan]

I must know. Is the one last dark one a male?

[ssssnakeluvr]

I want to know too.... ;) I will be checking them in a couple days...

[reptileparadise]

Wow, those dark ones are amazing!

I hope they will survive, although it might not be the best start to a new "morph"...

[BUSHSNAKE]

congrats Don

[ConcinusMan]

Wow, those dark ones are amazing!

I hope they will survive, although it might not be the best start to a new "morph"...

Sadly, two of the three passed away. I hope this one makes it to breed with mom. If it is a recessive gene, that should prove it.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Cariad had her babies this morning....a total of 9. 5 multiple hets, 2 Iowa and 2 Nebraksa albinos! there was around 6-8 slugs too.... one Iowa and one normal aren't real active...not looking real good at this time....got them warming up nicely and hopefully they will pull thru! pics will come later!

[Stefan-A]

Congratulations, anyway. :)

[ConcinusMan]

Shoot. Looks like I might have to get a male for amy elsewhere?

[ssssnakeluvr]

the het died before i left for work...the albino is crawling around, might make it!

[RicMartin]

Congrats! They are real beauties!
Ric

[ssssnakeluvr]

here's pics of the snakes....the entire litter, the Iowa albino, Nebraska albino, and a het albino

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF6003.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF6004.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF6007-1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF6011-2.jpg

[charles parenteau]

SO nice man !congrats ...

[ConcinusMan]

Wow. Good lookin' babies! That iowa is off the hook! Please be male.

[Odie]

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF4016-1.jpg
How is blackie doing mon :confused:

[ssssnakeluvr]

doing great!!! I sexed the plains, all were male but 1 het.

[Odie]

Cool dude :cool:

[ConcinusMan]

Stop keeping me in suspense. I want to know if there is a male for amy.

Glad blackie is doing well!

[ssssnakeluvr]

guess I didn't quite word that post right....yes, the black one is doing ok. I sexed the plains babies....1 het is female, all the rest (3 hets, 2 nebraska, and 2 Iowa) are males.

[ConcinusMan]

Whew!

OK. Now I know I won't be wasting my time searching for some fine attractive pairs of adult ordinoides for you.

Wed and Thursday forecast sunny and 76 degrees. I'll be heading out about 9am. It's funny, in all my efforts I have only come up with 2 females (that I do not wish to part with). The few males I found refused to eat and were released after a month or so. Ordinoides wasn't even in my plan this year but I can't part with these two. They're just TOO awesome.

[ssssnakeluvr]

looking forward to what ever you catch!! they are primarily worm eaters in the wild...my melanistic loves them, won't touch pinkies....bury a pinky in chopped worm, he will eat all the worm and leave the pinky. I actually got him to eat one...but thats it!! I haven't tried fish with him lately...he wouldn't take it last year...

[ConcinusMan]

I've had very few take fish. Those few, will take it readily. You are right, even a reluctant feeder can be coaxed into eating worms. Depending on the habitat and whatnot, some will eat fish, and other large ones will take chopped bloody pinkies but they will ALL chow on night crawlers!

I know of a spot near a creek where I found 2 melanistics a few years ago. One was black as the ace of spades, the other had a faint hint of a stripe. Went to go to that spot a couple of months ago. All I found was leveled, excavated bare ground with bulldozers parked there. :mad:

They just had to do that in the winter when the snakes were still in their dens. Makes me very angry! :mad:

[ssssnakeluvr]

that really sucks!!!!! my melanistic has a real faint pattern

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, I saw it. Awesome.

[Snaky]

Congrats with the nice litters! The black concinnus you have left looks very nice. Keep us up to date when he grows up ;)

[ConcinusMan]

Hey, my big girl ordinoides (2.5 footer) ate half a fuzzy last night. I tried night crawlers first, then fish. No response. There's always one oddball in the group.:rolleyes:

[ssssnakeluvr]

here's a couple more pics.....

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF9035.jpg

here's a dark one next to a normal one

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF9037.jpg

this pic is just cute!

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/ssssnakeluvr/DSCF9036.jpg

my other red spot popped last night...she had 5 live, 3 stillborn, and about 6 slugs. will take some pics of these later!

[Tyrel26]

beautiful snakes

[ssssnakeluvr]

my other red spot popped on thursday, had 3 stillborns, a bunch of slugs and 5 nice healthy babies.

[ConcinusMan]

God, that black one is so awesome. Interesting how the head is pretty much normal but the rest of the snake looks hypermelanistic. (stripe isn't normal)

[ssssnakeluvr]

That one pigged on worm pieces today!!! gonna hold him or her back...haven't sexed yet. yea, definitely a little odd!! gotta post some pics (after I take them) of him with the new babies from the other mother. they are nice and bright!

[ConcinusMan]

How old is mom? if the blackie is a male I was wondering if it's going to be feasable to mate him to mom later on. Want to see you produce more of those!

[ssssnakeluvr]

no idea how old mom is....she is a w/c female I got from a friend here...she has bred for me both years I have had her....she is in excellent health. will be feeding the little fella and tryingto get him up to breeding size to breed back with mom...see if I can produce some more! will also be interesting to see how he colors up!