what sex is my thamnophis radix + sirtalis sirtalis hybride

[De Foezel]

i bought this snake as a female but when i look at how much he/she eats it seems to be a male
heres a picture of the cloaca and the tail
hope u can see what sex it is
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww24/Krogan_photo/IMAGE_051.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Can you have her turn a little to your right:D Speaking of that, I think your right, female.
Having a little better(bottom side) photo will seal the deal.:D

[De Foezel]

i can do that but not right now.
because she has just eaten a few fish.
ill try tomorow
(i think it wont be easy because shes a bussy bee)

[ConcinusMan]

I'd like to see the last half of the body, not just vent downward. Like steve said, sometimes it helps to see that area from a side view. Still, from what I can see, it's looking like female.

Sure would also like to see more pics of that snake. Top, whole snake, head, etc.

See what you can do after she has time to digest her food.

[De Foezel]

ill take some fotos from underneath glass
above and front
comming up soon (shes still realy full from food)

[De Foezel]

here are some picture sorry for them not being so clear but she wouldn't sit still:D
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww24/Krogan_photo/IMAGE_104.jpg

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww24/Krogan_photo/IMAGE_135.jpg

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww24/Krogan_photo/IMAGE_138.jpg

and here are some photo's of the cloaca(not so clear because she's incredibly active)

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww24/Krogan_photo/IMAGE_118.jpg

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww24/Krogan_photo/IMAGE_119.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Laying the snake on a glass table for a underside photo.
What a great idea.

[charles parenteau]

to me it.s a male!!

[charles parenteau]

not so easy to tell

[De Foezel]

this is what im supposed to look for.......
http://www.kousebandslangen.nl/sex_difference.jpg
but i geuss its not very clear to see on my snake:eek:
i would say female because the tail doesnt get fatter behind the cloaca

[charles parenteau]

on the first pictures look like female on the 2 look male ..... need one more picture like the last one :)

[De Foezel]

ill wait a few days so most of the food is out of him/her
then ill take a picture so itl be more clearly visable\

[kjell]

i think it's a male

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

It looks like a male.... is it a juvi/young adult? Sometimes when they are in that teenager stage... it's hard to tell without the right picture!

[De Foezel]

i tried popping her (like in the video on youtube)
tried 4 or 5 times and nothing happend
6th time the vent opend
7th time the vent opend again and i aplied more pressure to try to invert hemipenisses
but im not sure of the results.....:confused:
no hemipenis apeard
but the vent opend up a little though(does this mean i did it correct and its a female??)

and i thinkt he or she aproximately 9 to 10 months old so i geuss she could be a early teen

[prattypus]

i tried popping her (like in the video on youtube)
tried 4 or 5 times and nothing happend
6th time the vent opend
7th time the vent opend again and i aplied more pressure to try to invert hemipenisses
but im not sure of the results.....:confused:
no hemipenis apeard
but the vent opend up a little though(does this mean i did it correct and its a female??)

and i thinkt he or she aproximately 9 to 10 months old so i geuss she could be a early teen

I am nowhere near able to do that, I leave that to other folks.

[ConcinusMan]

Garters are difficult to pop. I've had no luck with it, (except by accident) even with known males. Besides that, there's no need. A mature garter is reasonably easy to sex based solely on sexual dimorphism; visible physical differences are significant enough. I've never had to probe or pop in order to determine sex of an adult. Often, I can even sex neonates less than 2 mos old. I'm not bragging, anyone can do it.

Some other species, such as king snakes, gopher snakes, and mexican milk snakes must be probed or popped to be sure. That is not the case with most garter snakes.

The vent will open a bit with garters, male or female when you try the popping method. Something similar is what is happening when male garters successfully court a female. It's basically rape. The male forces her to open.

[De Foezel]

after i watched some more videos of people popping snakes
i tried it again and succeeded.
after some pushing and pulling 2 white dome like objects apeard which dissapeard after releasing pressure.
so i conclude she is a female.......

[De Foezel]

if u think u can do something.... its often easyer to do it
can do attitude.... is rewarded most of the time
if someone else can do it why shouldnt you be able to do so too.