Maritime Garter

[Tyrel26]

This is the green maritime garter Ive been asking about, and yes I now realize its not rare but its still a beauty. May be nice if I can breed it with a melanistic mate in the future, as there have been many photographed in this area. As I have asked before, why is it that maritime garters dont seem to be as common as other types in this hobby?

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d15/cuzgoatsrkool/garterandkillifish025.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d15/cuzgoatsrkool/garterandkillifish021.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d15/cuzgoatsrkool/garterandkillifish022.jpg

[Snakers]

omg that is green!

[charles parenteau]

Yes indeed they are a beautiful gartersnake...I also found eatern green like that!!

[guidofatherof5]

I would have a few Maritime garters in a heartbeat.
Beautiful snake.

[MasSalvaje]

Very Nice! Thanks for sharing!

-Thomas

[drache]

that looks more like an eastern to me
is maritimes all you got up there?

[Tyrel26]

Maritimes are suppose to be the only type of garter we have, other than that we have ring necks, smooth greens, red bellies and ribbon snakes but no eastern garters. But if you think thats what it is, is there any other way to tell?

[drache]

I don't think so
I have not actually been able to figure out what the difference is other than location
the more I read, the less conclusive it seems
so if you're in the maritime range, I guess that's what it must be then

[gartermorphs]

lol it looks like the thamnophs forum symbol

[ConcinusMan]

That is indeed a very nice green color. Sure looks like a maritime to me also, but I'm no expert. True maritime's are few in the hobby as are any garter that green. Take good care of it!

[Tyrel26]

I hope to breed it in the future, going to try to get another really green one or a melanistic. but for now we're doin great, very friendly and eating scented pinks...she just dosnt like the cam, she attacks it lol
I would really like to see more maritime garters become part of this hobby in the future, so maybe ill be able to help that idea along a little.

thanks for reading my post

[ConcinusMan]

That's way cool that she attacks the camera. I bet she has very good eyesight and sees the lense as a huge eyeball staring at her!

[Tyrel26]

lol maybe so, i was thinking it was the tiny red light...but maybe shes just camera shy

[Tyrel26]

There has been an ongoing study on the garter snakes in this area for the past 30 years, the head researcher found a small area with great diversity in color, this is a line from one of his reports: (i thought some of the people here would find this interesting) "I turned over a board and there were seven Garter Snakes, each one different - one melanistic, one part melanistic, the other five with red, or grey, or no stripes, red belly or grey belly. I had all seven in my hands and they were all different".

[ConcinusMan]

Hey, try covering the light with some tape or something and see if you still get the reaction. You know, this reaction:

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That study you speak of, I have been having the same experience for years, but each snake was the same species- T. ordinoides.

Sorry, can't get enough of that clip.:o

[Tyrel26]

Ill try that next time i get some pics of her, shes sleeping now lol.

These snakes were all the same species as well, thamnophis sirtalis pallidulus. They are located on a small island not far from shore. They even had different scale formation from the mainland snakes.

it a very interesting read, if you are interested heres the link
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3845/is_200601/ai_n17183702/

[ConcinusMan]

Fascinating. thanks for the link.

Reminds me of when I was into breeding Sceloporus (clarkii, jarovii, occidentalis) lizards. There were some very interesting specimins of occidentalis' on some uninhabited islands off the coast of California and in isolated populations in the Sierra Nevada range. Very different.