Noob ?

[Odie]

:confused: I am so new to this.
Can anyone tell me what kind are snake is by the pics i've posted in the gallery?
Any help would B cool:o

[Cazador]

Hi Odie,

There are some folks who are really good at identifying different species/subspecies on this forum, but a photo clearly focused on the head might help quite a bit, too. I've posted a few of your pictures, below, to make things easier. Best of luck,

Rick

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/100_3767.JPG
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/100_3766.JPG
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/100_3765.JPG

P.S. Hopefully, your snake has another water dish large enough to soak in.

[adamanteus]

Hi Odie, Sorry but the photos are just too fuzzy. The scale count appears to be 19 at mid-body (but I can't be sure) which would narrow things down a bit, but not enough. As Rick (Cazador) says a good clear head shot showing the labials would help. Also a clearer picture at mid-body for an accurate scale count. Can you take more photos?

[Odie]

Yes, has soking dish.
Counted 16 then 18 :confused:
Will try to get better pics.

[GarterGuy]

Hmmmmm, I'll take a guess and say maybe a T.ordinoides? Definitely could use some better pics for scale counts and such, but if you've already kind of got between 16 and 18 (they can be a real buggar to count, especially on a squirmy snake) that ony makes me think more it's an ordinoides. Colour and pattern really remind me of them as well.
Roy

[adamanteus]

I agree with you Roy, it does look like an ordinoides, but on Odie's other pics (in his gallery) I think the scale count comes out at 19. Yeah....better pics needed.

[GarterGuy]

James,
Wow....your eyes are better than mine if you can get scale counts out of those pics...LOL.:cool:

Odie,
If you have a shed of your snake, you might try counting the scales on that. Should be easier. Make sure you do your count at about midbody, the scale counts can vary at different areas on the snake, especially closer to the head.

Roy

[Thamnophis]

It also would help if you know where it is caught.

[ssssnakeluvr]

the pics here are definitely t ordinoides....have had a couple myself...

[Cazador]

Odie,

How is its personality? It appears to be very friendly. I wonder if all (or most) T. ordinoides are friendly and inquisitive?

Rick

[ssssnakeluvr]

I have had a few ordinoides over the years...all were friendly, not one was aggressive.

[adamanteus]

I had a group of five ordinoides some years ago. All very placcid snakes. Really wish I could get them again but not much chance in the UK.

[Odie]

Newer pics.
She is very friendly and inquisitive (I like to call it sneeky snaking).

[Odie]

Robin saved it from being smashed by a shovle.
Hillsboro OR.:eek:

[Odie]

Odie,
If you have a shed of your snake, you might try counting the scales on that. Should be easier. Make sure you do your count at about midbody, the scale counts can vary at different areas on the snake, especially closer to the head.

Roy
I counted 17 this time.:confused:

[adamanteus]

If that count of 17 is accurate, you definitely have T. ordinoides, which is pretty much what most people thought anyway, I guess I clouded the issue a little with my earlier mis-count of 19!

[KITKAT]

If that count of 17 is accurate, you definitely have T. ordinoides, which is pretty much what most people thought anyway, I guess I clouded the issue a little with my earlier mis-count of 19!

I have not had time to recount yet, but I suspect that I also may have miscounted. I'll post results when I get time to do it!

[Odie]

Thanks everybody!!