Waiting

[gregmonsta]

Since the other thread went awol during the server's flunky time Sky's progress will hereby be documented once again.

A quick recap -
1 - She weighed 354g at the beginning of October last year and stopped eating for winter on the 27th.
2 - She went into shed mid-December and shed ... on the 27th.
3 - Two days of frantic interest by Spazz post shed. Did not witness intercourse .... but it may have happened.
4 - Back on food on the first of January. Weight of 373g on the 23rd.
5 - On the 6th of February she hit 420g
6 - Off food as of 14th of Feb when she also went into shed.
7 - Hasn't eaten since and shed on the 22nd. Her weight is steady at 406g.

She's been hovering around the warm hide for the last month and a half being either completely in the warm hide or right in the centre of the viv.

Here she is today -

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/8552649216.JPG

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/9664555959.JPG

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/962354885.JPG

[guidofatherof5]

Greg, keep your OBGYN on standby. She's ready to blow.
What a beautiful girl. Can't wait to see some babies. Keep us posted.

[Stefan-A]

Coming along nicely. :)

[gregmonsta]

She's cooking .... I hadn't thought about it until I was staring at the picture and then staring into the viv just now. In the position of the photo the 'green area' harbours the heatcable.

[jitami]

She's huge :) Good luck to both of you!

[drache]

yup - getting there

[Snaky]

So, can we do a guess of how many there will be?:D

[gregmonsta]

So, can we do a guess of how many there will be?:D

Sounds like a plan :D .... Will have to think of prizes :rolleyes: .... how about ... a Canadian/American winner gets to name one of my holdbacks .... and a European winner gets a free squiggle (if they can manage to arrange transport/come and get it ;) ... I have a guest room). If the European member can't arrange for that they can, of course, name a holdback :D.

[Snaky]

Ok, I'll start to guess:D
25 it will be.

[gregmonsta]

Good start :)

Hans - 25

[guidofatherof5]

Put me down for 33:).

[Stefan-A]

Let's say 20.

[gregmonsta]

Hans - 25

Steve - 33

Stefan - 20

:rolleyes:

[ConcinusMan]

Damn! last time I saw a gravid female that bloated was right before my (past) concinnus female popped out 50. They were very small though. She was about 38 inches long. 43 lived beyond a year, 2 stillborns, the other 4 "failed to thrive". No slugs, no deformed. (the still borns were kinked). All broods besides that one were around 25 and most lived.

I'll take a guess. I'd say 30 if she's around 3 feet. 20 if she's much smaller. I'm not even going to try to predict stills, deformed, slugs.

[gregmonsta]

Well, you can't have 20 so 30 it is :rolleyes:

Hans - 25

Steve - 33

Stefan - 20

Richard - 30

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

28!


she's going to BLOW

[gregmonsta]

She certainly looks like she's going to :D

Hans - 25

Steve - 33

Stefan - 20

Richard - 30

Shannon - 28

[Mommy2many]

Please put me down for 21.

[gregmonsta]

Hans - 25

Steve - 33

Stefan - 20

Richard - 30

Shannon - 28

LeAnn - 21

Robert - 24

:D

[mustang]

im thinkn 24

[ssssnakeluvr]

I'll say 35 :cool:

[Odie]

19 :confused:

[gregmonsta]

Hans - 25

Steve - 33

Stefan - 20

Richard - 30

Shannon - 28

LeAnn - 21

Robert - 24

Don - 35

Odie - 19

:D

[drache]

wow those numbers are going
put me down for 22

[zooplan]

I wish all the best for you, Greg:
so I guess 37
and hope that it´ll become truth;)

[gregmonsta]

That would definately be a nice total Udo ;)

Hans - 25

Steve - 33

Stefan - 20

Richard - 30

Shannon - 28

LeAnn - 21

Robert - 24

Don - 35

Odie - 19

Rhea - 22

Udo - 37

:D
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[gregmonsta]

Best sign ever - hasn't eaten since the last weight check ..... has gained 4g :) ..... 410g today :D

[Stefan-A]

Best sign ever - hasn't eaten since the last weight check ..... has gained 4g :) ..... 410g today :D
Mine is off feed, too. Ate for the last time over a week ago. Ate a 2-gram fish last time, gained 3 grams. :rolleyes:

[MasSalvaje]

Can't wait to see pics when they come!

I say 23

-Thomas

[gregmonsta]

Mine is off feed, too. Ate for the last time over a week ago. Ate a 2-gram fish last time, gained 3 grams. :rolleyes:

:D I can't wait!!! Bring on the squiggly goodness!!!

Hans - 25

Steve - 33

Stefan - 20

Richard - 30

Shannon - 28

LeAnn - 21

Robert - 24

Don - 35

Odie - 19

Rhea - 22

Udo - 37

Thomas - 23

:D

[Stefan-A]

Sorry, it wasn't 3 grams, it was 4. Same as yours. :)

[ConcinusMan]

OK, so she's due any day now? Can't wait.

[gregmonsta]

OK, so she's due any day now? Can't wait.

I would think so ;) anytime within the next two weeks max I think :D

[ConcinusMan]

Fantastic. Any hopes of catching the birth on video?

[gregmonsta]

Fantastic. Any hopes of catching the birth on video?

If I'm lucky enough to witness it it will indeed be documented to the best of my ability ;)

[Snakers]

hmmmmm 29is my guess:)

[indigoman]

Put me down for 18 big ones......Bill

[gregmonsta]

Hans - 25

Steve - 33

Stefan - 20

Richard - 30

Shannon - 28

LeAnn - 21

Robert - 24

Don - 35

Odie - 19

Rhea - 22

Udo - 37

Thomas - 23

Nolan - 29

Bill - 18

:D

[gregmonsta]

A couple of fun observations -

1) This girl knows when it's bed time!!! On average she has been cooking herself on and around the warm spot all day until 10mins before lights out when she retreats to the cold hide.

2) She's been going for a drink around 1pm each day without fail.

3) Yesterday she slithered out of the warm hide in a hurry .... stopped at the cold hide .... shot me a confused look .... wiggled her neck for about 15seconds .... and promptly shot back into the warm hide .... weirdo!!!

4) I moved her in order to change the repti-carpet (which covers the heatcable). She hissed indignantly and then waited right where the carefresh stops and the carpet begins until I was finished and then went straight back to her favourite spot.

:D

[Stefan-A]

Wait, what? She hissed? I've never heard a garter hiss.



Due to force majeure, I've personally had to leave my own preggo without supervision for three days. That's unnerving.

[Mommy2many]

Stephan, when do you expect your squiggles?

[Stefan-A]

Stephan, when do you expect your squiggles?
Between 60 and 120 days from mating. :p Last year, it was on day 73. Today is day 75.

[gregmonsta]

Wait, what? She hissed? I've never heard a garter hiss.



Due to force majeure, I've personally had to leave my own preggo without supervision for three days. That's unnerving.

:rolleyes: I've heard her hiss a few times. Usually when I come at her unexpectedly and for a while last year she had the habit of hissing at her fuzzies before striking them :D.

Must be stressy mate. ;) I'll cross my fingers that she waits until you get back.

I think it's day 70 for Sky :rolleyes:

[gregmonsta]

I think I'm starting to see weird behaviour .... she definately seems confused with the world :rolleyes: ... quizzical tail movement ... slight head-bobbing ... deep breathing .... she even did a bit of a neck wiggle yesterday which definately indicates confusion/uncertainty (it's one of Panama's favourite things when she's not sure what to do).

[Mommy2many]

Almost squiggle time!!!

[gregmonsta]

She definatley seems to fit the restless/uncomfortable category :rolleyes:

[guidofatherof5]

My big Speckle did the same thing just before and during delivery.
As I watched her she would come to me and lay on my arm or get up on my shoulders. Then she would calm down.
It sure made me feel special.:)

[ConcinusMan]

Sometimes that would go on for a couple of days with concinnus, leading up to the big event. Any time now!

[gregmonsta]

Hissy n pissy .... still not eaten .... weighed in at 422g today :rolleyes: .... day 77 ... that's up 12g in the last 11 days.

She's definately not happy with having been moved today either :o .... time to leave her well alone me thinks .... she's giving a look like 'What the heck did you do that for?'

[Stefan-A]

Soon, very soon.. ;)

[gregmonsta]

Here's some action of Mrs Grumps - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOsh_0g3-R4

Definate hissing ;) ..... definate weird behaviour .... what's happened to my puppydog tame sirtalis???

[guidofatherof5]

Well, that's a first for me.
I've never heard a garter hiss before.

[gregmonsta]

:D she's special ;)

[Stefan-A]

It might not be intentional hissing.

[gregmonsta]

It might not be intentional hissing.

Possible :rolleyes: but she has done it before ... like I said she was weird with fluffs last year .... the only food item she felt the need to hiss at :rolleyes:

This was big momma today (size accentuated by her squishing into the corner .... but she's still bloody huge)

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/bigmomma.JPG

[guidofatherof5]

Great looking girl, Greg.

[ConcinusMan]

Well, that's a first for me.
I've never heard a garter hiss before.

I've heard very angry wild large female elegans hiss like that.

[gregmonsta]

Day 81 .... still just a thermoregulation obsessed blue sausage :rolleyes:

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

only 81 days!! haha.. you think you have it bad... my mama watersnake took 139 days!!! i had to sit there and look at a fat red sausage saying "any day now" for 139 days!!!!! She sure is fat Greg!

And yes... garters definitely hiss! I have only seen adults do it... especially large angry females. but it's intentional and not a whole lot of them do it!

[gregmonsta]

only 81 days!! haha.. you think you have it bad... my mama watersnake took 139 days!!! i had to sit there and look at a fat red sausage saying "any day now" for 139 days!!!!! She sure is fat Greg!

And yes... garters definitely hiss! I have only seen adults do it... especially large angry females. but it's intentional and not a whole lot of them do it!

:rolleyes: It's Stefan's fault .... with his vagrans set to microwave and a 70+ day average :D .... I'm not listening to you :p ..... Sky couldn't possibly take that long :cool:

[Stefan-A]

:rolleyes: It's Stefan's fault .... with his vagrans set to microwave and a 70+ day average :D .... I'm not listening to you :p ..... Sky couldn't possibly take that long :cool:
Almost exactly 73 days both times. It's not my fault, they won't leave the heat pad. :D

[gregmonsta]

Almost exactly 73 days both times. It's not my fault, they won't leave the heat pad. :D

And you can't make them either :rolleyes: ... :D

[Thamnophis]

I guess that she will make you happy with 21 young beaties. Just a feeling... :)

[gregmonsta]

I guess that she will make you happy with 21 young beaties. Just a feeling... :)

You'll have to do better Fons :rolleyes: 21 is already taken.

Hans - 25

Steve - 33

Stefan - 20

Richard - 30

Shannon - 28

LeAnn - 21

Robert - 24

Don - 35

Odie - 19

Rhea - 22

Udo - 37

Thomas - 23

Nolan - 29

Bill - 18

:D

[Thamnophis]

Make it 17 than... :D

[drache]

wow Fons - I haven't seen you in a while
did you just come out of brumation?

[gregmonsta]

Hans - 25

Steve - 33

Stefan - 20

Richard - 30

Shannon - 28

LeAnn - 21

Robert - 24

Don - 35

Odie - 19

Rhea - 22

Udo - 37

Thomas - 23

Nolan - 29

Bill - 18

Fons - 17

:D

[ConcinusMan]

So the winner gets one of the offspring for free, right? ;)

[gregmonsta]

So the winner gets one of the offspring for free, right? ;)

Only if they are European and can come to get it :p .... of course, if you are made of money you could pay for the postage/import fees to the USA :rolleyes:.

Original rules - a Canadian/American winner gets to name one of my holdbacks .... and a European winner gets a free squiggle (if they can manage to arrange transport/come and get it ;) ... I have a guest room). If the European member can't arrange for that they can, of course, name a holdback :D.

There is also the chance that I might make it to Houten snakeday again .... but that depends on wether I can afford it or not :o

[Stefan-A]

That's kind of you, Greg. :D If I win (I won't), I'll give that holdback a name combining all seven words on George Carlin's list.

[gregmonsta]

That's kind of you, Greg. :D If I win (I won't), I'll give that holdback a name combining all seven words on George Carlin's list.

That will be interesting :rolleyes: ... start planning because you never know :p.

[ConcinusMan]

That would be funny. Mean holding greg to it, but funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_Nrp7cj_tM

***WARNING! BAD LANGUAGE! Remove children from the room...unless your a cool parent! :D ***

[gregmonsta]

Considering what I was going to call squiggles before he came here ... it's kind of mild :rolleyes:

[Stefan-A]

Considering what I was going to call squiggles before he came here ... it's kind of mild :rolleyes:
Well, we can throw that in there, as well. He's going to need a middle and a last name, too. ;)

[ConcinusMan]

OMG, this thread went to the gutter real fast. :rolleyes:

[gregmonsta]

Oh dear .... at this rate I'll never be able to utter the name of this poor thing in public :eek: .... I shall have to refine a euphemism or simplify it to 'It' ..... I can see the future posts :rolleyes: - "It is doing great" "It ate 2 pinkies today" ....


Actually .... It sounds like a fantastic name for one of my future additions :rolleyes:

[ConcinusMan]

I almost said that. Can't we just call the snake "shi*" for short? or perhaps "tits" oh, I know "shitz"

[Mommy2many]

Poor snake...

[ConcinusMan]

Snake won't care. I'm leaning toward "shitz" I like that name.

[drache]

if you can say it fast enough, nobody will know

[jitami]

oooh, this naming thing could be fun <gg> I'm going with 26 :)

[gregmonsta]

Hans - 25

Steve - 33

Stefan - 20

Richard - 30

Shannon - 28

LeAnn - 21

Robert - 24

Don - 35

Odie - 19

Rhea - 22

Udo - 37

Thomas - 23

Nolan - 29

Bill - 18

Tami - 26

:D

[Odie]

Bill - 18

Odie - 19

Stefan - 20

LeAnn - 21

Rhea - 22

Thomas - 23

Robert - 24

Hans - 25

Tami - 26

Shannon - 28

Nolan - 29

Richard - 30

Steve - 33

Don - 35

Udo - 37

[gregmonsta]

:rolleyes: It appears I just got spring cleaned :o

Cheers Odie :D

[Odie]

Less likely rehypothesize a number :D

[gregmonsta]

OK .... day 85 and still nothing .... so ..... I guess I'll bore you with some statistics :D

She now hasn't eaten for a month and 10 days. It's been exactly one month since her shed.

For the past three days she's been 'going to bed early'. ie .... so far the pattern has been - slither to the warm hide before lunchtime
go for a drink around 1pm
remain in and about the warm hide until about 11pm
retreat to cold hide 10mins before lights out and stay there all night.

For the past 3 days she's been moving to the cold hide earlier and earlier. today - 1hour 45mins early.

:rolleyes: bored of me yet? :o .... :p

[Snakers]

OK .... day 85 and still nothing .... so ..... I guess I'll bore you with some statistics :D

She now hasn't eaten for a month and 10 days. It's been exactly one month since her shed.

For the past three days she's been 'going to bed early'. ie .... so far the pattern has been - slither to the warm hide before lunchtime
go for a drink around 1pm
remain in and about the warm hide until about 11pm
retreat to cold hide 10mins before lights out and stay there all night.

For the past 3 days she's been moving to the cold hide earlier and earlier. today - 1hour 45mins early.

:rolleyes: bored of me yet? :o .... :pAAAHHHHH! the suspense is killing me tell her to PUSH!!!!!

[drache]

this could go on for another couple of weeks . . .

[ConcinusMan]

I'm not even going to go there again. Not getting excited for a batch of slugs or stillborns. It'll happen when it happens.

[gregmonsta]

this could go on for another couple of weeks . . .

:p not listening :rolleyes:

[gregmonsta]

Day ninety-one .... being patient is trying my patience .... :o

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/howlong.JPG

Blue sausage!!!!

[Mommy2many]

Patiently waiting as well on the East Coast of US.:D

[gregmonsta]

Knowing my luck she'll squeeze them out while I'm overnighting at Terri's dad's place tomorrow :o

[ConcinusMan]

If that's the case, she'll probably be showing signs before you go.

[gregmonsta]

If that's the case, she'll probably be showing signs before you go.

Fingers crossed she does :rolleyes: ... I would have an excuse to stay at home then :D

[Mommy2many]

Squiggles!!! I need squiggles! This waiting for your blue sausage is starting to drive me crazy:D

[gregmonsta]

Day 93 ..... 430g :eek:

[guidofatherof5]

She's really cook'in.
Maybe a little too much yeast:D

[jitami]

Such a lovely blue sausage... come on silly girl, we want babies!!!

[gregmonsta]

It's funny watching her getting around her viv .... when she's moving in a straight line you can see that the ribs of the 'cargo hold' don't actually touch the ground .... You clearly see the ripples of them as she does her best to move her belly scutes :D

[guidofatherof5]

I wouldn't be too obvious in this watching thing and I definitely wouldn't do it with a smile on my face.
She may take it wrong, being in the state she's in.:D
Tell her she's beautiful and whatever you do don't touch her.
Wait, I'm sorry Greg. I forgot we were talking about your snake. Never mind.

[Stefan-A]

Tell her to hurry the hell up, Greg. :D

[gregmonsta]

I wouldn't be too obvious in this watching thing and I definitely wouldn't do it with a smile on my face.
She may take it wrong, being in the state she's in.:D
Tell her she's beautiful and whatever you do don't touch her.
Wait, I'm sorry Greg. I forgot we were talking about your snake. Never mind.

:rolleyes: makes me wonder what the other tangent could be :o .... I'll lock myself out of the room now :p

[guidofatherof5]

Tell her to hurry the hell up, Greg. :D

Great tact, Stefan.:D
Telling a female in thoses terms will get you a brick wall.:D

[Stefan-A]

Great tact, Stefan.:D
Telling a female in thoses terms will get you a brick wall.:D
I'm okay with that. :D

[ConcinusMan]

:eek:

[gregmonsta]

Day 96 ... still nil by mouth - since about 12/02 ... still stuck in her warm hide during the day .... only moves to drink, sit behind her warm hide (still on the heatcable) or enter her cold hide at night.
:rolleyes: occaisional weird behaviour includes sudden fast re-positioning in her warm hide last night and lying in different positions than usual when lying behind her hide. She's been leaving the last third of her body lying in a straight line as opposed to coiling it with the rest of her :cool:

[Mommy2many]

Maybe they've dropped!!!

[gregmonsta]

Maybe they've dropped!!!

C'est possible :rolleyes:

[MasSalvaje]

Day 96 ... still nil by mouth - since about 12/02 ... still stuck in her warm hide during the day .... only moves to drink, sit behind her warm hide (still on the heatcable) or enter her cold hide at night.
:rolleyes: occaisional weird behaviour includes sudden fast re-positioning in her warm hide last night and lying in different positions than usual when lying behind her hide. She's been leaving the last third of her body lying in a straight line as opposed to coiling it with the rest of her :cool:

She appears to find joy in tormenting you Greg!

-Thomas

[gregmonsta]

She appears to find joy in tormenting you Greg!

-Thomas

It's her raison d'etre I'm sure :o

[guidofatherof5]

Greg,
Take her out for a ride on a real bumpy road:D

[drache]

It's her raison d'etre I'm sure :o
she may not enjoying it any more than you are

[gregmonsta]

She's just plain HUGE

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/howlonge.JPG

[ConcinusMan]

Good Lord Almighty! Last time I had garter that huge, she popped out 52 at 100 days. She could hardly move.

[gregmonsta]

She's always been quite a solid snake but I've never seen her like this. 32" long and 430g at last weigh. That works out about 80g up on her pre-breeding weight.

[Anthony Laing]

Wow! Good luck!

[gregmonsta]

Cheers mate :D I think I'll need it once the little squiggles finally arrive.

[jitami]

Oh that poor dear :) I don't think I'd be coiling... er bending... much either!

[Anthony Laing]

Who's in the Tub next to her?

[gregmonsta]

Who's in the Tub next to her?

;) it's empty. I want to make sure I have a tub that's at the right temp when the babies start coming :D

[gregmonsta]

Day 99 .... looks like hitting triple figures is inevitable.

[bkhuff1s]

Wow that's a HUGE female. I'd be going out of me mind if i were you..

[ConcinusMan]

Wait, what did I just hear? oh, she farted. False alarm.

[Anthony Laing]

Wait, what did I just hear? oh, she farted. False alarm.

Haha! I dont think greg will be too happy, nor Sky..:D

[gregmonsta]

Wait, what did I just hear? oh, she farted. False alarm.

:rolleyes: the amount of times I've gotten my hopes up over a bowel movement is just silly :o

[Stefan-A]

:rolleyes: the amount of times I've gotten my hopes up over a bowel movement is just silly :o
It seems that they hold their tails straight up when it's a question of bowel movement, but only arch it a little when they give birth. (personal observation)

[guidofatherof5]

It seems that they hold their tails straight up when it's a question of bowel movement, but only arch it a little when they give birth. (personal observation)

Great observation.
Of all the times I've seen both, I never saw the difference. Now I will.

[Stefan-A]

Great observation.
Of all the times I've seen both, I never saw the difference. Now I will.
I still want to emphasize that it's just a personal observation. It's not a rule, to my knowledge.

[ConcinusMan]

I seem to recall them holding it straight up but after some time in labor she gets tired of holding it up I guess and it just sort of arches. Still, every birthing I witnessed was preceeded by obvious muscle spasms before the first one comes out. You'll know it's not a bowel movement about to happen.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

I will never forget the day I was sitting, looking at a gravid eastern I had, and thinking Uh oh she's gonna poop! And a baby popped out! I didn't see any contractions or anything... just all the sudden... there was a baby! Couldn't beleive my luck. I got to see her have them all :D

[ConcinusMan]

I've never missed a birth but then, my concinnus female always showed signs it was happening long before it began.

[Stefan-A]

I will never forget the day I was sitting, looking at a gravid eastern I had, and thinking Uh oh she's gonna poop! And a baby popped out! I didn't see any contractions or anything... just all the sudden... there was a baby! Couldn't beleive my luck. I got to see her have them all :D
It was the same with my first guppies. :D

[gregmonsta]

I will never forget the day I was sitting, looking at a gravid eastern I had, and thinking Uh oh she's gonna poop! And a baby popped out! I didn't see any contractions or anything... just all the sudden... there was a baby! Couldn't beleive my luck. I got to see her have them all :D

I'll keep getting excited then ;)

[drache]

every time I see you post on this thread now, Greg, I think it's got to be happening

[Anthony Laing]

every time I see you post on this thread now, Greg, I think it's got to be happening

Same! I get email notifications :D

A few days ago, my cat gave birth, I stayed with her for 6 and half hours. It was Fasinating :D

[gregmonsta]

every time I see you post on this thread now, Greg, I think it's got to be happening

I want it to be .... after the dissapointment last year :o ... I want my first baby experience!!! :rolleyes:


Same! I get email notifications :D

A few days ago, my cat gave birth, I stayed with her for 6 and half hours. It was Fasinating :D

Wow, that must have been great :D ... I've never been present at a kitten delivery although there were a few at my mum's house at the time.

[Anthony Laing]

I want it to be .... after the dissapointment last year :o ... I want my first baby experience!!! :rolleyes:



Wow, that must have been great :D ... I've never been present at a kitten delivery although there were a few at my mum's house at the time.

What happened last year?

It was great, she did an excellent Job, kinda gross, as she ate all the blood, umbilical corn and other shizzle which came out. This was because it is high in protein and helps her make milk:eek:

[ConcinusMan]

Last birth experience I had, I ended up with the most precious best friend of my entire life. Bridget, my orange pomeranian gave birth at around 5am to 2 sable puppies. A boy and a girl while I was sleeping. By noon they were clean, dry, and nursing. I figure she's done and was about to go take a nap when a very tiny black blob plopped out with no warning whatsoever. It was a runt and wasn't moving or breathing. Took quite a bit of time stimulating him but he finally came to life. Turns out he was a black and tan just like his father. To this day he's my favorite. Best dog I've ever had. You can see him here: http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/showpost.php?p=127145&postcount=737

[gregmonsta]

:D looks like a rock n roll dog.

[gregmonsta]

Day 105 :rolleyes: .... it's driving me batty :o ... still not eating and spending all of her time on the warm spot. I just want it to be over. She hasn't eaten for 2 months now :eek: ..... simple .... I want babies out and food in!!! You can tell she's put a lot into it as her neck is really starting to look thin now.
Cross your fingers for her .... send your telepathic urges .... anything!!! Push Blue Sausage!!!! Push!!!!

[Snakers]

Tell if she doesnt push than no big fat pinkies!:d

[Anthony Laing]

Day 105 :rolleyes: .... it's driving me batty :o ... still not eating and spending all of her time on the warm spot. I just want it to be over. She hasn't eaten for 2 months now :eek: ..... simple .... I want babies out and food in!!! You can tell she's put a lot into it as her neck is really starting to look thin now.
Cross your fingers for her .... send your telepathic urges .... anything!!! Push Blue Sausage!!!! Push!!!!

I just telepathicly told her to give birth to 100 healthy babies, today.... :D

[drache]

poor girl
I remember what it was like when it seemed like I needed a crane to help me turn over in bed at night

[Mommy2many]

That's where I'm at now! Baby is due in less than 6 weeks and I feel like a turtle:rolleyes:

[ConcinusMan]

:p Who cares! ^^^Jeez, we're all on edge here waiting...


For that next reply on 'snakepop day'. You're killing us with anticipation. :o

Gongrats to you mommy. The only kids I've been there for from conception to adult, are pomeranians and garter snakes! They're my babies so I'm sure you understand.;)

[gregmonsta]

Day 109 :o nothing to report other than she's dropped 5g ... down to 425g.

[Anthony Laing]

Day 109 :o nothing to report other than she's dropped 5g ... down to 425g.

Man! I hope it happend soon, The Telepathic messages I sent must have been delayed a cause of the Volcanic Cloud above the UK...:D

[Stefan-A]

I just read something I think you'd like, Greg:


Philippe de Vosjoli: The Art of Keeping Snakes, page 132:

"Gestation, depending on environmental conditions and species, can range from as little as seven weeks for some Floridian forms of garter snakes and water snakes, up to ten months for some of the boas."

Does that sound about right to you? ;)

[MasSalvaje]

I just read something I think you'd like, Greg:



Does that sound about right to you? ;)

Sure rub it in Stefan!

-Thomas

[drache]

we used to have a mare who had a series of false pregnancies. she'd get huge. and then it would just go away
but she'd had real pregnancies before, so that's different

[gregmonsta]

I just read something I think you'd like, Greg:



Does that sound about right to you? ;)

:rolleyes: cheeky


we used to have a mare who had a series of false pregnancies. she'd get huge. and then it would just go away
but she'd had real pregnancies before, so that's different

I sure hope this isn't the case. If you remember last year comparing the figures shows a totally different picture.
She's gained more weight on less food than last year and her 'fast' only lasted 3 weeks compared to over 2 months now.
I do worry though ... if she's not produced anything by the end of next week I'll consult my vet for sure.

[Stefan-A]

:rolleyes: cheeky
Was it? :rolleyes:

By the way, my tetrataenia threw slugs a few days ago. If only I had mated her... Would have beaten your Floridian form of garter snake. ;)

[reptileparadise]

Did she po(o)p yet?

[gregmonsta]

Was it? :rolleyes:

By the way, my tetrataenia threw slugs a few days ago. If only I had mated her... Would have beaten your Floridian form of garter snake. ;)

Milking it for all it's worth :p


Did she po(o)p yet?

No pop :o .... but the very occaisional tiny poop :rolleyes:

[Stefan-A]

Milking it for all it's worth :p
Aye. Don't forget the N. mauras. Their eggs will probably hatch before this one pops and they haven't even been laid yet. :p

[GarterGeek]

Gosh, I haven't been on in ages, and she looked ready to explode the last time I was on. I hope it's soon! :)

[gregmonsta]

Day 113 .... sudden change of behaviour .... she spent the entire day in the cold hide .... then visited the warm hide for 15 minutes .... now back at the cold hide and for the last 45mins the picture has been this -

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/OMG.JPG

[MasSalvaje]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/OMG.JPG

I think we may have grossly underestimated the number of little ones that beast is carrying! She is a monster!

I hope this is the real thing, for you yes, but especially for her.

-Thomas

[ConcinusMan]

That is outrageous!

But no indication of total number. No indication of individual neotate size, no indication of "success" as measured by dead or deformed to healthy well developed offspring.

My concinnus always seeked out the cool side during delivery (70-75 degrees) while the newborn tended to leave mom and congregate on the other side, under the basking light at 80-85.

No weird muscle spasms or contracting yet? My females always appeared like they were a male trying to court a female, or a python guarding it's eggs. That would sometimes start up to 24 hours before the first neonate comes out.

[Anthony Laing]

Day 113 .... sudden change of behaviour .... she spent the entire day in the cold hide .... then visited the warm hide for 15 minutes .... now back at the cold hide and for the last 45mins the picture has been this -

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/OMG.JPG


WOW! Thats amazing! I hope she delivers you many parcels soon :D

[ConcinusMan]

Parcels. yeah, those things. Preferably the kind that don't come in a plain brown wrapper with no return address and white powder inside. We also don't want any parcels that make a ticking sound.

We also don't want the lumpy yellow kind of parcels or the kind that never move.

Well, you get the idea, just give us some wiggly squigglies already!

Wait just a minute. Is that her head sticking out? No way! if it is her head she's probably saying "does this make my arse look fat?"

Just tell her "no, you're as beautiful as ever" and you'll be OK.

If it's a different snake, he's probably thinking "geez, what a cow!"

[gregmonsta]

No weird muscle spasms or contracting yet? My females always appeared like they were a male trying to court a female, or a python guarding it's eggs. That would sometimes start up to 24 hours before the first neonate comes out.

Nothing quite like that yet. She's in the cool hide again at the moment. Her breathing is deep and regular. No conclusive muscle-spasm have been witnessed yet.


Parcels. yeah, those things.
Well, you get the idea, just give us some wiggly squigglies already!

Wait just a minute. Is that her head sticking out? No way! if it is her head she's probably saying "does this make my arse look fat?"

Just tell her "no, you're as beautiful as ever" and you'll be OK.

If it's a different snake, he's probably thinking "geez, what a cow!"

:rolleyes: I'm with you on that .... no parcels .... we want squigglies!

I keep telling her to push .... maybe I should try the 'You're such a beautiful blue sausage' approach instead :D

[guidofatherof5]

The big girl is in our prays.
Hoping this madness ends soon, for my and her:D

[MasSalvaje]

I keep telling her to push .... maybe I should try the 'You're such a beautiful blue sausage' approach instead :D

Greg you have been doing this all wrong. You need to get her to eat something spicy, I know she has been off food for that last couple of months but maybe she would take a worm covered in Tabasco. Then you need to take her for a ride on a bumpy road in a tight little truck. These both helped put my wife into labor, look what I got out of the deal.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn48/Massalvaje/DSCN00071.jpg

I am sure these things will work, just give them a try. ;)

-Thomas

[guidofatherof5]

The big girl is in our prays.
Hoping this madness ends soon, for my and her:D

I meant, she is in our prayers.

[Slithe]

im gonna say 68.

[gregmonsta]

Bill - 18

Odie - 19

Stefan - 20

LeAnn - 21

Rhea - 22

Thomas - 23

Robert - 24

Hans - 25

Tami - 26

Shannon - 28

Nolan - 29

Richard - 30

Steve - 33

Don - 35

Udo - 37

Slithe - 68

[Stefan-A]

I've changed my mind: 34.

[ConcinusMan]

Please don't let this turn into another epic fail. Please!

[indigoman]

If the suspense is killing me i can only imagine what its doing to you Greg!

[Mommy2many]

Wow Greg, she's huge!!!

[drache]

they're going to be giant babies - 9" at birth - 22 of them

[Odie]

Bill - 18

Odie - 19

Stefan - 20

LeAnn - 21

Rhea - 22

Thomas - 23

Robert - 24

Hans - 25

Tami - 26

Shannon - 28

Nolan - 29

Richard - 30

Steve - 33

Don - 35

Udo - 37

OdieII - 39

Slithe - 68:D

[gregmonsta]

:rolleyes: All this double guessing .... not sure I'm in favour of it :rolleyes:

Stefan did say he changed his mind -

Bill - 18

Odie - 19

LeAnn - 21

Rhea - 22

Thomas - 23

Robert - 24

Hans - 25

Tami - 26

Shannon - 28

Nolan - 29

Richard - 30

Steve - 33

Stefan - 34

Don - 35

Udo - 37

OdieII - 39

Slithe - 68

I think we must have a choice from Odie :p 19 or 39?

[Stefan-A]

The average is now about 30. If the "wisdom of the crowd" holds, it should be something in that region. ;)

[gartermorphs]

hmm i think there gonna be 13!

[gregmonsta]

Gartermorphs - 13

Bill - 18

Odie - 19

LeAnn - 21

Rhea - 22

Thomas - 23

Robert - 24

Hans - 25

Tami - 26

Shannon - 28

Nolan - 29

Richard - 30

Steve - 33

Stefan - 34

Don - 35

Udo - 37

OdieII - 39

Slithe - 68

I think we must have a choice from Odie :p 19 or 39?

[bkhuff1s]

Since 27 hasn't been taken I'm going to have to take it :)

[gregmonsta]

Gartermorphs - 13

Bill - 18

Odie - 19

LeAnn - 21

Rhea - 22

Thomas - 23

Robert - 24

Hans - 25

Tami - 26

Shannon - 28

Bryan - 27

Nolan - 29

Richard - 30

Steve - 33

Stefan - 34

Don - 35

Udo - 37

OdieII - 39

Slithe - 68

I think we must have a choice from Odie :p 19 or 39?

[Anthony Laing]

Gartermorphs - 13

Bill - 18

Odie - 19

LeAnn - 21

Rhea - 22

Thomas - 23

Robert - 24

Hans - 25

Tami - 26

Shannon - 28

Bryan - 27

Nolan - 29

Richard - 30

Steve - 33

Stefan - 34

Don - 35

Udo - 37

OdieII - 39

Slithe - 68

I think we must have a choice from Odie :p 19 or 39?

I would say 38... just to be different:D

[GarterGeek]

Can I guess 40? :)

[NikkiSixx]

I guess 42! :D

[gregmonsta]

Gartermorphs - 13

Bill - 18

Odie - 19

LeAnn - 21

Rhea - 22

Thomas - 23

Robert - 24

Hans - 25

Tami - 26

Shannon - 28

Bryan - 27

Nolan - 29

Richard - 30

Steve - 33

Stefan - 34

Don - 35

Udo - 37

Anthony - 38

OdieII - 39

Monilka - 40

Nikki - 42

Slithe - 68

I think we must have a choice from Odie :p 19 or 39?

[guidofatherof5]

Greg,
You should have sold tickets for this thing. It's looking like a lottery!:D

[Odie]

Gartermorphs - 13

Bill - 18

LeAnn - 21

Rhea - 22

Thomas - 23

Robert - 24

Hans - 25

Tami - 26

Bryan - 27

Shannon - 28

Nolan - 29

Richard - 30

Odie - 32

Steve - 33

Stefan - 34

Don - 35

Udo - 37

Slithe - 68

I think we must have a choice from Odie :p 19 or 39?
Ok... ok, Ahhhhh 32 :D

[gregmonsta]

Gartermorphs - 13

Bill - 18

LeAnn - 21

Rhea - 22

Thomas - 23

Robert - 24

Hans - 25

Tami - 26

Shannon - 28

Bryan - 27

Nolan - 29

Richard - 30

Odie - 32

Steve - 33

Stefan - 34

Don - 35

Udo - 37

Anthony - 38

Monilka - 40

Nikki - 42

Slithe - 68

[garterchick]

I've been following this and decided to chime in: I'm guessing 45

[gregmonsta]

Day 117 ... she's having her weird moments - spending time in her cold hide with the last half of her body sticking out, lying out in the open completely straight (not coiled).
This morning I found her lying in the open with her head hidden next to the waterbowl. She then put a lot of effort into squeezing out the most pathetic little urinary deposit :rolleyes: .... yes, I did get over-excited once again.
She does seem a little lethargic. It's no surprise with the effort it takes to move her body. I'll be booking a vet appointment for Monday just in case once I get home from work. That's also day 120 after which it will be getting a little ridiculous.

Anyway :) this weekend .... touch wood!



P.S. - I will now close the voting process so this is the final list of guesses :cool:


Gartermorphs - 13

Bill - 18

LeAnn - 21

Rhea - 22

Thomas - 23

Robert - 24

Hans - 25

Tami - 26

Shannon - 28

Bryan - 27

Nolan - 29

Richard - 30

Odie - 32

Steve - 33

Stefan - 34

Don - 35

Udo - 37

Anthony - 38

Monilka - 40

Nikki - 42

Tina - 45

Slithe - 68

[guidofatherof5]

Hoping all goes well. We're all pulling for the big girl.

[ConcinusMan]

OK, it's been days. What's going on?

[guidofatherof5]

Grieving the lost of a special snake and all that entails, can't be rushed.
I'm sure Greg will post when the time is right.:)

[Anthony Laing]

OK, it's been days. What's going on?

hehe, I was thinking that today, whilst handling me 2 babies:D

[Stefan-A]

The snake's dead, people.

[ConcinusMan]

OK, OK. I know now. Saw that in the other thread AFTER I posted here. Damn. That sucks. EPIC FAIL after all.