Gravid females

[snakeman]

het albino flame
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/DSC05370.JPG

[snakeman]

The other one
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/DSC05385.JPG

[snakeman]

Orange canadian garter bad pic
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/DSC05368.JPG

[snakeman]

Het albino erythristic
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/DSC05369.JPG

[snakeman]

Puget sound garter
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/DSC05379.JPG

[snakeman]

albino melanistic
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/DSC05378.JPG

[snakeman]

Possibly gravid double het redside.I have no idea what bred with this.I did'nt think she was big enough.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/DSC05412.JPG

[ConcinusMan]

So, about that het albino flame; what's the price looking like for the offspring? (probably out of my range)

Albino melanistic? sounds like a contradiction.

[gregmonsta]

Nice set of preggo's :D

[snakeman]

So, about that het albino flame; what's the price looking like for the offspring? (probably out of my range)

Albino melanistic? sounds like a contradiction.
I'll pm you.
It is a contradiction.But both triats do show.I guess it is the type of albino used.That's probally the reason for the dark pigment.The eyes are black and red.

[Stefan-A]

I'll pm you.
It is a contradiction.But both triats do show.I guess it is the type of albino used.That's probally the reason for the dark pigment.The eyes are black and red.
So, what's going on there on a genetic level? The term albino is usually reserved for animals that are actually white, as the name implies.

[snakeman]

That depends on who you talk to.Just like lucistic is supposed to be lukistic.amelanistic typeB?maybe.I am not sure which one is a or b.These type of amels are straw colored and not as sensitive to light.

So, what's going on there on a genetic level? The term albino is usually reserved for animals that are actually white, as the name implies.

[BUSHSNAKE]

i kinow exactly what you mean when you call the snow an albino melanistic because thats what it is, i feel the melanistic isnt a true melanistic, its a BLACK MORPH,a pure black sirtalis,no pattern no color so the albino just took away the black of a black snake,i think Ghost would be a better name for the Snow...thats just my oppinion

[ConcinusMan]

I'll pm you.
It is a contradiction.But both triats do show.I guess it is the type of albino used.That's probally the reason for the dark pigment.The eyes are black and red.

OK, that made absolutely no sense to me. Melanistic: increased or abnormally high melanin. Albino: just the opposite. Makes no sense that a snake can be both at the same time. It either lacks melanin, or it doesn't.

[snakeman]

The albino trait just is'nt strong enough to completely take away all melanin.

[Stefan-A]

The albino trait just is'nt strong enough to completely take away all melanin.
In other words: hypomelanistic.

[bkhuff1s]

how are all of yours prego already?

[BUSHSNAKE]

good luck to ya snakeman,i think i ended up with albino melanistic male(from ed)he's a good breeder so far...cheers!

[snakeman]

how are all of yours prego already?
They came out of brumation in december.They went in early september.

[bkhuff1s]

Ahh smart I'll have to do that this year. I still have a few months before mine come out...

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

The albino trait just is'nt strong enough to completely take away all melanin.

this strain if albino is t positive right? it totally makes sense that the melanistic is still trying so hard to show itself since that's the case! I always laugh when I see albino melanistics because you can really see the two genes "competing", for lack of a better word.

[Quibble]

this strain if albino is t positive right? it totally makes sense that the melanistic is still trying so hard to show itself since that's the case! I always laugh when I see albino melanistics because you can really see the two genes "competing", for lack of a better word.

Sounds like it was supposed to be two seperate snakes, accidentally squashed together like play-doh before birth.