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guidofatherof5
12-26-2009, 11:18 AM
Late last night this thread would have started in the Urgent Care section.
As I was tucking everyone in and shutting off lights I saw one of my female T.s.parietalis babies(born 8/1/09) on its back. Its head was turned sharply and its mouth wide open. My mind started searching for what could have gone wrong. This group had been feed worm pieces a few hours ago. All the other babies seemed fine. I picked her up, thinking she was dead. It's then I felt her tail slap my hand. I could see her heart was beating but her respiration was almost nonexistent.
I took her up stairs for some TLC. At times, she would jump almost out of my hand. At one point she passed some urates. She then went into some kind of convulsion. Her muscles contracted along her belly and she had a very concave appearance. Once again the mouth was agape and head bent to the side. Her body would than take on a normal appearance and she would have deep respirations. During all of these times I didn't observe any tongue flicking or what I would call normal movements or actions. I felt at a loss to do anything for her. I placed her in a small container for the night in the hopes she would survive but knowing that in the morning I would find her dead.
This morning I opened the container to find a normal acting and looking parietalis. She was very active and when I held her, she musked me.
I'm guessing it's some kind of neurological issue maybe something on the lines of epilepsy. I'm hoping it's developmental and she'll grow out of it. She will be separated from her group and observed for a month or so.
Having her alive this morning was a late Christmas gift.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/sick_tsp.jpg

Snake lover 3-25
12-26-2009, 11:31 AM
wow.. glad she made it... hope she'll be ok

aSnakeLovinBabe
12-26-2009, 11:55 AM
Steve, three of my redstriped ribbon clutch did this. Head cocked at odd angles, convulsing, overreacting to being touched, and belly muscles contracting. The first one, I euthanized right away. The second one, I saw it doing it in the cage, went to go thaw some pinkies and figured I would deal with it when i got back, and when I came back all of them were acting totally normal and I couldn't even figure out which one had been doing it. The third one, I watched for a while and I was astounded when suddenly the snake rolled over onto it's belly and while it seemed rather weak, it had stopped the crazy action. My boyfriend pleaded with me not to put "twitch" as he named it down, and I was rather upset because this was after I had sold all the clutchmates and it was my only male holdback. But that was months ago and ever since those weird incidences I have not witnessed it again. He's almost a foot long now. Not really sure what happened, or what had caused it, possibly something bad in a batch of food?

drache
12-26-2009, 04:21 PM
that is so odd
hopefully there'll be no recurrence

wadih
12-26-2009, 09:36 PM
This is really strange, maybe it is an act of fear or stomach ache. Hopefully things will become better with her.

guidofatherof5
12-26-2009, 09:42 PM
*UPDATE*

She's seem normal. I'm going to keep her alone for a few weeks just as a precaution.

ConcinusMan
12-27-2009, 03:14 PM
Indigestion?

guidofatherof5
12-27-2009, 03:19 PM
Indigestion?

This was much more severe than indigestion.
She seems to be doing fine this afternoon. Hoping to see her eat again, soon. I've had her out a number of times and she seems to be acting like a normal garter snake.

ConcinusMan
12-27-2009, 03:50 PM
In all seriousness though, I've had (very few) baby concinnus from some clutches act like that a few times. They all lived on to be normal though.