Sexing help?

[Spankenstyne]

I was wondering what these two might be. I have my thoughts but would love some input as well:

Snake #1

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Thamnophis/ta1a.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Thamnophis/ta1b.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Thamnophis/ta1c.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Thamnophis/ta1d.jpg

[Spankenstyne]

Snake #2

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Thamnophis/ta2a.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Thamnophis/ta2b.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Thamnophis/ta2c.jpg

Sorry about the quality on this one especially. Just wanted a side shot:
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/spankenstyne/Thamnophis/ta2d.jpg

[sirtalis01]

they look like 2 males to me..but on snake #2 the first pic its tricky..looks like a female but only on thefirst pic

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

#1 male, # 2 is female.

[guidofatherof5]

I'm thinking #1 male: The tail stays as thick as the cloaca's width for awhile. A very slender long tail. I see this tail on many of my male radixes.

#2 Female: Photo #1 gives you the best look. A very nice taper.

Of course, this isn't a legally binding guess, right!:D

[Spankenstyne]

Oh I plan on holding you all to it! ;)
To me it looks like #1 is male and #2 is female. It's the opposite of how they were bought but no big deal since it seems to be a pair regardless which was the main thing for me. I just wondered if I was going nuts or seeing stuff that might not be there.