garter species

[jere000]

How many different garter species are there and is there a list with pictures so i can see what lives around me

[DrKate]

You could see if the NY dept. of fish & game has any kind of "native herp list" on their web site. Also I think somebody recently posted a link to a species gallery that's somewhere on this site, but I don't remember what thread it was, sorry! :o

[Stefan-A]

http://www.thamnophis.com/caresheets/index.php?title=Photographic_Library

http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/general-talk/1570-thamnophis-species-subspecies.html

I want to point out that some subspecies are missing from the lists. The species T. eques should have many more.

[jere000]

thanks for the help

[GarterGeek]

Well, according to the National Audubon Society there are 13 species and 40 subspecies of garter snake. I don't remember if that includes ribbon snakes which are part of Thamnophis.

I think that all states' fishing and boating commission websites have a list of the reptiles in their state that usually include pictures.

Oops, I forgot. There is also some sort of list of garter snakes on this site. I doubt whether it includes every species and subspecies but maybe it will help. Just click on the "articles" tab on the top of your screen, you'll see a list there.

[jere000]

i already found a list and it has a few snakes id like to find lik a black racer or
an eastern hog nosed snake:D but i have no clue where to find this stuff

[DrKate]

but i have no clue where to find this stuff
Look around for local herp societies in your area (or even statewide groups). They may have web sites or forums where people post their field herping experiences, and might even organize trips to special areas of interest.

[Mommy2many]

Here's a link:

Species of Lizards and Snakes Found in New York - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation (http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/7483.html)

Dept. of Environmental Conservation/New York

[jere000]

i dont know of reptile societys present lus i dont know if my mom would take me since im 14

[DrKate]

i dont know of reptile societys present lus i dont know if my mom would take me since im 14
Oh, I meant you'd have to search for them online. Or if you have a local independent pet/reptile shop (i.e. not Petco) in your area, they might know about local groups. The mom thing I can't help with, though. ;)

[Stefan-A]

snakefinder (http://www.gartersnake.de/snakefinder/snakefinder.html)

[jere000]

Oh, I meant you'd have to search for them online. Or if you have a local independent pet/reptile shop (i.e. not Petco) in your area, they might know about local groups. The mom thing I can't help with, though. ;)
argh i hate petco

[DrKate]

argh i hate petco
You know, I was going to revise my post and forgot... I meant to say I didn't want to unfairly assume your local Petco/Petsmart/whatever would be staffed by the same nitwits mine is, and you could always ask there on the chance that they *do* have knowledgeable staff who might know about local herp societies.

But... It sounds like you might already know that's going to be a useless venture. Looks like you've got to go all the way to Rochester before you get to a herp-specific pet shop - maybe time to start doing the dishes without being asked, to butter Mom up... ;)

[jere000]

You know, I was going to revise my post and forgot... I meant to say I didn't want to unfairly assume your local Petco/Petsmart/whatever would be staffed by the same nitwits mine is, and you could always ask there on the chance that they *do* have knowledgeable staff who might know about local herp societies.

But... It sounds like you might already know that's going to be a useless venture. Looks like you've got to go all the way to Rochester before you get to a herp-specific pet shop - maybe time to start doing the dishes without being asked, to butter Mom up... ;)
i already have to go to rochester to get snak e food from a guy who i bought 1.2 boas from then he opened a petstore then i moved here so now i buy from him