stripless identification? i belive its a eastern sirtalis......

[ClosedCasket88]

5 bucks a piece at the all maryland reptile show , they look like easterns wich they probobly are,but there face is white and not like anyof the easterns i catch aruond PA/NJ/MD area, the male still has somehwat of a stripe on his back but there very kool regaurdless, i couldnt help it , 5 bucks.cant beat that , there nice, eat good supposevly, look healthy ,i just hope all the young will come out checkered and kool like these guys

http://i2.tinypic.com/47k1i7k.jpg
http://i8.tinypic.com/3y8340y.jpg

[Sid]

Congrad's on the new additions. And you are right, can't beat the price.

Sid

[drache]

Ditto above
And my- are they attractive
Rhea

[abcat1993]

I love the first one with his head under his tail.

[Thamnophis]

Wow, they are very beautiful. And only for 5 dollar?
You got yourself a good deal!

[Snaky]

A very nice one indeed!

[GarterGuy]

Very cool, very early to see garters at the shows too. Yeh, I'd bet they're T.s.sirtalis, almost look like they could be Maritimes (T.s.pallidulus), but almost NO ONE works with them, so I'd be surprised to see them at a show.
Roy

[ClosedCasket88]

yeah, i was thinkin maybee a maritime garter , the head and face are very much alike
any other thoughts?

[ssssnakeluvr]

looks like an eastern to me...got a female myself with faint stripes.

[GarterGuy]

You know they actually kind of look like the Easterns (T.s.sirtalis) that Scott Felzer has. Wonder if they came from his stock????

[mikm]

That's what I thought Roy ... that they look like Scott Felzer's stock. Very nice looking babies !!!

marian

[drache]

I sent Scott a link to the pictures and here's his response:

"The link you sent looks like they may be the West Virginia garter babies I had a few years ago. They were quite beautiful, lost the adults from them and wish I had more of them to work with."

So there, Ryan.
When they make babies, I definitely would like a couple.
Rhea

[ClosedCasket88]

no prob, you got it .
actualy ide rather sell my babies to my thamnophis friends on this site than at shows , i breed garters just for fun outa love n fascination of these guys , all my other snakes i love but there more a collection and way of imcome to help my @*** eat and pay bills ,
garters are awesome , they could be the pickiest ,highest needing reptile and i would still have a million , there not like normal coulubrids that for sure, all my pride n joy's out of my collection of reptiles are my garters .
gotta love em

[drache]

same here
in terms of personality no other snake i've ever met is anywhere near as interesting
I am a full fledged garter junkie

[ClosedCasket88]

i support your post there drache
good stuff , garters kick @ss

[adamanteus]

I couldn't agree more. I've kept literally hundreds of species over the past forty years, but I always come back to Thamnophis. They're just in a class of their own, nothing compares!