help!? They're so Beautiful yet so EVIL *with pics*

[necromantica]

Ok so I found three snakes in my yard today. They are the strangest morph of garter I have EVER seen. Then again they are also much bigger then my garters. They puff, bite, hiss, and go flat everytime I look at them. I own garters and these crazy morphs inspired me to catch them and get some input on exactly what kind of garter this is. One is beautiful like hes a blue green color, the other is yellow. And the third is yellow and red but they are all much bigger then my garters, much more hostile, much longer, and theyre heads are a total different shape. They're toungues are red with black tips. Theise snakes are SO beautiful, I just cant stop staring at them wondering what they are. I have googled and googled but can find no garters with heads like these.
Ive posted some pictures of two of the three. What are they? Are they some rare morph?
Also we get gopher snakes out here. Which are verry angry snakes, if they are not garters could they be baby gopher snakes that look like garters? Or mabie water snakes? They are about 2.5 feet long!

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h221/opium_dream/PICT0327.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h221/opium_dream/PICT0325.jpg

[Stefan-A]

Welcome aboard. :)
One looks like an Oregon red-spotted garter (Thamnophis sirtalis concinnus). The other one, I'm not so sure. Puget Sound garter, probably (Thamnophis sirtalis pickeringii). Not necessarily morphs, just different subspecies.

[necromantica]

I forgot to throw that in, I am located in oregon, this sounds possable I just googled the snake and they have the same evil stare lol.

[Stefan-A]

Feel free to check out our photographic library:
http://www.thamnophis.com/caresheets/index.php?title=Photographic_Library

Haven't seen any bluish concinnus, I think, but I have seen animals with red, yellow or green markings.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

those both look like t.s. concinnus to me! the head is the dead giveaway... I think the colors are washed out in these photos and that's why it;'s confusing.

[adamanteus]

Yes, they both look like concinnus.

[gregmonsta]

Beautiful concinnuses :D

[Sid]

Nice find, I agree they are Oregon Red-spotted. Very unusual coloring.

[ssssnakeluvr]

definitely concinnus! I have a male that is evil also....tried to bite me every time I feed him

[drache]

yup - I agree
and I did have an evil one myself
those are nice looking btw

[Stefan-A]

I'm sure they're both concinnus, I really just tried hard to get the description to fit the image. :D I should have trusted my initial instinct.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

I'm sure they're both concinnus, I really just tried hard to get the description to fit the image. :D I should have trusted my initial instinct.

we all screw up at times :)

[k2l3d4]

they are gorgeous.... I love the patterns

[Odie]

those both look like t.s. concinnus to me! the head is the dead giveaway... I think the colors are washed out in these photos and that's why it;'s confusing. Hi, from Hillsboro :)
Where do you live Necromantica :D

[prattypus]

definitely concinnus! I have a male that is evil also....tried to bite me every time I feed him
Man, I still haven't taken a hit. It's like an initiation that I am missing out on. I am going to start wagging my fingers in their tanks when they eat...

[azrael]

Wagging fingers works! LoL don't get bit!

[drache]

well, poor Whizzy is so pissed over this lost tail affair, that I've taken to wearing the chamois garden gloves I wear for clipping roses when I do her wound care
I totally know it makes me come off like a sissy, but it does make the treatment go smoother