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Scott F
01-31-2009, 08:35 AM
These are some of the prettiest infernalis I've ever worked with.

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Scott F
01-31-2009, 08:37 AM
This girl will be bred this year and expect her to produce albino flames, albinos and flames.

Scott F
01-31-2009, 08:40 AM
This female was found by Jeff Mohr and is a beauty ! She was bred last year to both a flame and albino eastern. Expect her to have anerythristic and flame 100% anerythristic babies this year.

Scott F
01-31-2009, 08:43 AM
This female will be bred to a silver eastern garter this year. Anerythristics will be the key trait for producing new unique designer morphs.

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Scott F
01-31-2009, 08:52 AM
The first red plains and the hypo will be bred to a Nebraska albino, the last red plains will be bred to a double het Iowa albino x Nebraska albino plains. My hope with the red x Nebraska albino is to ultimately create a high reddish/yellow albino.

Scott F
01-31-2009, 08:55 AM
This female will be bred to anerythristic red sideds this year, creating double het for snows and these offspring will ultimately produce a second snow strain. (To my knowledge, snow red sideds have yet to be produced).

Scott F
01-31-2009, 08:59 AM
This albino strain will be bred to the golden red side, albinos, blue red side and normals this year.

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Scott F
01-31-2009, 09:03 AM
This female was produced from the golden red sided being bred to an anerythristic red side. She will be bred to an albino-Kansas strain this year.

Scott F
01-31-2009, 09:06 AM
Acquired the hypermelanistic wandering from Don Belnap, they are voracious feeders. The axanthic Chicago's colors don't display the blue very well, the color washes out in the photo.

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Lori P
01-31-2009, 09:13 AM
Oooooh. I really, really like!!! Infernalis, my favorite! (Altho I tend to say that about all of them, LOL!!)

Lori P
01-31-2009, 09:14 AM
Oh, and Scott, please make me a purple garter. I'd really like a dark purple garter. :D

anji1971
01-31-2009, 09:31 AM
Oh, and Scott, please make me a purple garter. I'd really like a dark purple garter. :D

HAHA!! Lori, why am I not surprised that the first question you'd have for him is that??:D:rolleyes:

Beautiful infernalis, Scott. They really have stunning colours and patterns. :cool:

anji1971
01-31-2009, 09:34 AM
Wow, those axanthic are incredible! On my "keep dreaming" list...........:D

anji1971
01-31-2009, 09:38 AM
I like this one too. I have a thing for black/grey/silver/ blue tones........
Can you relocate to Canada???:D Please?

guidofatherof5
01-31-2009, 10:16 AM
Looks like you got a camera shy one there, Scott.
Welcome to the forum.

adamanteus
01-31-2009, 11:09 AM
Scott, nice snakes. I've merged all your threads together. Other members on here generally bunch all their Garters together into one thread entitled 'Such-a-persons' Garters. It keeps a nice variety of topics on the portal page.:)

infernalis
01-31-2009, 11:19 AM
Nice collection Scott.

Stefan-A
01-31-2009, 11:45 AM
It is indeed a nice collection, Scott. :)

reptile3
01-31-2009, 11:47 AM
Wow Scott, very nice collection you have there!!:)

EdgyExoticReptiles
01-31-2009, 12:41 PM
I love infernalis, i just wish i could breed them
this is probably one of the prettier ones i've found
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/edgyexoticreptiles/DSC_2041.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/edgyexoticreptiles/DSC_2043.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/edgyexoticreptiles/DSC_2051.jpg

aSnakeLovinBabe
01-31-2009, 12:46 PM
Scott,

I love seeing pics of your snakes!! Are you doing Daytona this year? Because seeing them in person was waaaayyy cool!

drache
01-31-2009, 02:02 PM
fantastic snakes, Scott
now unfortunately, I need to pm you to save me another one - it's just terrible

Hornets23
01-31-2009, 02:11 PM
Scott, you're making it even harder for me to decide what I want this year lol. Awesome snakes.

crzy_kevo
01-31-2009, 02:35 PM
I love infernalis, i just wish i could breed them
this is probably one of the prettier ones i've found
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/edgyexoticreptiles/DSC_2041.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/edgyexoticreptiles/DSC_2043.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/edgyexoticreptiles/DSC_2051.jpg

omg i think that is one of the prettiest infernalis i have ever seen with scott's being the runner up

and scott seeing al the pictures of your snakes and your planned breeding makes me wish i lived in the U.S. lol

snakeman
01-31-2009, 02:44 PM
Scott, How the hell do you get females ready to breed in one year?I started stuffing my pinks and rats with reptomin to get some extra vitamins in thier system.I know it make turtles grow like weeds.

snakeman
01-31-2009, 02:45 PM
I have seen some top notch infernilis.The blue on that one is stunning!

crzy_kevo
01-31-2009, 02:45 PM
actually ya that is a great question i know its possible to get males ready in less than a year but females please explain:eek:

crzy_kevo
01-31-2009, 02:47 PM
i wish garters were more popular in canada it would make it easier to find some special ones like infernalis and conninus and all the other really pretty ones

jitami
01-31-2009, 04:51 PM
I love the Mohr anerythristic eastern! Very nice! So glad to have you here Scott!

Reed, what an impressive snake! I really don't understand our breeding regulations here. The regs against collecting more than 2, sure, but once they're collected why would it matter if they were bred? You'd think it would lessen the impact on the wild population...anyway... I'll quit whining now... at least temporarily :)

EdgyExoticReptiles
01-31-2009, 05:18 PM
you can breed but you cant sell them

I love the Mohr anerythristic eastern! Very nice! So glad to have you here Scott!

Reed, what an impressive snake! I really don't understand our breeding regulations here. The regs against collecting more than 2, sure, but once they're collected why would it matter if they were bred? You'd think it would lessen the impact on the wild population...anyway... I'll quit whining now... at least temporarily :)

adamanteus
01-31-2009, 05:19 PM
you can breed but you cant sell them


Can you give them away?

EdgyExoticReptiles
01-31-2009, 05:22 PM
yea if i were to breed them tho i would take at least half and release them

Can you give them away?

adamanteus
01-31-2009, 05:24 PM
If you can give them away, maybe your 'friends' would be willing to give something to you? Use your imagination!:D

EdgyExoticReptiles
01-31-2009, 05:27 PM
lol yea maybe i'd love a pair of those and high red coasts

If you can give them away, maybe your 'friends' would be willing to give something to you? Use your imagination!:D

jitami
01-31-2009, 05:30 PM
you can breed but you cant sell them

Reed, I think this is what most people do, but it's not how I read the regs. It actually says no propagation and if there are resulting offspring I believe you're supposed to hand them over to fish and game(I'll have to read the pamphlet again). Again, I think it's totally silly... and I am morally fine with giving them away or selling them as long as native pops aren't over collected. In theory I really like the idea of releasing babies, too. There's a good amount of argument against that as well, tho :(

Scott F
02-01-2009, 11:09 AM
Hi Lori,

These infernalis are the bluest I've ever had. The blue phase come from only select locations in CA, most crs's have varying amounts of red and blue within them.

Scott

Scott F
02-01-2009, 11:15 AM
Lori,

A purple garter (any snake purple for that matter) would be very cool.

Scott

Scott F
02-01-2009, 11:17 AM
James,

Thanks for helping out with the post. I am still figuring things out here, may take a little while to get my bearings lol

Scott

Scott F
02-01-2009, 11:25 AM
Thankyou everyone for the kudos on the collection. A few females (minority) gain breeder size within their first year, most do not. Males generally are easy to get breeder size in their first year as well. Reed that infernalis is a beauty !

Scott

aSnakeLovinBabe
02-01-2009, 11:37 AM
its so good to have you here on these forums!! At least here, you get responses! Lots of them, all by people who are obsessed with garters!

I am the most obsessed though :p

and anyone who challenges me shall fall!!!

misskris
02-01-2009, 11:37 AM
Ohhh I want one :) I want a pugent too.... scary for one who didn't really want the one we got in the first place :)

crzy_kevo
02-01-2009, 03:18 PM
its very cool to have you here being an active member of the forum scott almost all of us are huge fans of your work :D

Snake lover 3-25
02-01-2009, 07:35 PM
wow beautiful snakes!!!!!:eek::D

ssssnakeluvr
02-01-2009, 09:21 PM
its so good to have you here on these forums!! At least here, you get responses! Lots of them, all by people who are obsessed with garters!

I am the most obsessed though :p

and anyone who challenges me shall fall!!!
don't bet on it.....just ask my wife.... :cool:

Snake lover 3-25
02-01-2009, 09:22 PM
lol :)

aSnakeLovinBabe
02-01-2009, 09:35 PM
don't bet on it.....just ask my wife.... :cool:


just ask my BOYFRIEND!!!!


I talk about garters to him so much that I swear even he has dreams about them. And he doesn't even own a snake!!!

We will be laying there before bed.. it's all quiet... hes almost asleep... and all the sudden I simply HAVE to tell him that one of my garters had their first shed since brumation... or they were breeding, or this one didn't eat her pinky!!!

He knows so much about snake morphs, genetics, and species now it's scary, considering when I first met him new years eve at my house two years ago, within 5 minutes I had drunkenly dragged him into my snakeroom and convinced him that I was a crazy cat lady in the making!! (remove cat and insert snakes here)

ssssnakeluvr
02-01-2009, 09:37 PM
hahahaha my wife is always teasing me about being on here....she will ask what I am doing and will say it better not be "thamnophis"! "it's always thamnophis thamnophis thamnophis!!!!!!!" she hasn't had any snak dreams that I know of yet.....

aSnakeLovinBabe
02-01-2009, 09:41 PM
I have dreams very often that I am herping on my (modified for dreamland of course) grandparents farm. Since I have such a vivid (and terrible) dreaming problem, I know the "imaginary" farm very intricately, make repeated trips back there on a weekly basis in my sleep, and I could tell you where to find a den of pink and green garters under a board by the porch, where to find an axanthic water snake in a huge pile of mud with like 100 water snake heads always sticking out of it, how to get to a hibernation den if you cross the bridge made of woven grass over the pond....and where the rattlesnake is that always prevents me from lifting the tire that the bluest garter snake I have ever seen hides out!!! I could draw the place!!!

ssssnakeluvr
02-01-2009, 09:47 PM
I have them a lot too...however the scenery in my dreams is never the same. I do go to ponds and rivers and places and find garters.....caught the wildest pair of all orange garters :eek: night before last I was catching red siders....had one where I was driving around a lake and catching all different garters, some melanistics, florida blues....had both hands full of snakes!!!

aSnakeLovinBabe
02-01-2009, 10:29 PM
I regularly re-visit places, including the farm, a school, a hospital, and my house (in my dream we own a stone mansion with an airport on premisis though) my boyfriends house, and a few other places, the are always the same exact build, but I am usually doing something different each time.

ssssnakeluvr
02-01-2009, 10:51 PM
cool...I go to some places that seem familiar...may be close to somewhere I have been, but not exactly...... and , if I leave a room or area, I can't seem to go back, and if I can get back where I was, but it isn't the same as it was when I left it.....

Thunder.x.Tiger
09-16-2009, 02:33 PM
Umm hey do you know if you have golden anerythristics because i caught a garter snake for only a week and it had babies and i'm not sure what type they are but i think they are the one of the golden types if you do have any, can you take some pictures please?

ssssnakeluvr
09-16-2009, 11:45 PM
it's a cross between a golden and an anerythristic.... here's a link to the golden (colorless red sider)

http://www.albinogartersnake.com/images/colorless_redsided_LG.jpg

and here's the anery red sider

Scott Felzer's Garter Snakes, specializing in aberrant garters (http://www.albinogartersnake.com/pricing.htm)

here's a pic of a golden x anery female of Scott's...

PetHobbyist photo gallery (http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/photo.php?id=376149)

well.....drat....here's links to pics of them....

KITKAT
09-20-2009, 11:53 AM
Hey Scott! Welcome to the forum! Nice to see you finally joined us!

KIT:cool:

aSnakeLovinBabe
09-20-2009, 03:54 PM
Looking back at this thread... the coolest part of it is that I now own the top and the bottom snakes he posted! haha :D

the_edsta
09-21-2009, 04:55 PM
Looking back at this thread... the coolest part of it is that I now own the top and the bottom snakes he posted! haha :D

I was reading this thread from the top and, having read your new thread, was wondering that the whole time... thanks for answer!

:-)

I'll def take my place in line [be it in the back as it may] for one of those eventual infernalis offspring!

GartersRock
09-21-2009, 08:05 PM
Looking back at this thread... the coolest part of it is that I now own the top and the bottom snakes he posted! haha :D

You got that wandering too?

aSnakeLovinBabe
09-21-2009, 08:29 PM
no no, The axanthic chicago :D

I'll be picking up 3 more infernalis at hamburg, at least 1 is an adult so, I hopefully should have a good amount this year!

GartersRock
09-21-2009, 09:41 PM
Ah! Missed that one... lol