White Plains Show

[mtolypetsupply]

So I'll try this again...

Anyone want to meet up at the White Plains Show on the 25th????

If so, how will we know each other? Anyone been there before and know of a cool place to do lunch or something?

[drache]

will see you there, Stephi

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

I'm not going.... since I bought those het granite garters I told myself I already spent my white plains money and since hamburg is next month and I need to save money to buy feeders.... I am not going to white plains to make up for it!!! (my boyfriend is so proud of me haha):rolleyes:

[drache]

good for you, Shannon
Hamburg is so hard for me to get to, since I don't have a car
would have loved to see you
White Plains is easy for me - the metro north train station is a five minute walk from the westchester county center
I'm not planning on any live purchases either, just some supplies
hoping to talk Stephi into greek food

[anji1971]

Oh man, do I love Greek food.............wish I lived in your corner of the world.

[reptile3]

So I'll try this again...

Anyone want to meet up at the White Plains Show on the 25th????

If so, how will we know each other? Anyone been there before and know of a cool place to do lunch or something?

Wish I could go & meet you all!!! " if I was going, you could tell me by the name on my forehead" ok, i know I am silly.

[drache]

this was the weirdest day - everything having to do with transportation and communication went wrong: trains were rerouted and cancelled, my cell phone died, etc
so I didn't get to meet Stephi once again
but I did have a nice time at the show - got to chat with my vet and give him an update on Drache
he has Sammy's other babies and was telling me that the one with the multiple kinks in the spine is eating like greedy pig and outgrowing all the others
I did end up coming home with something live although I wasn't supposed to
the garter babies were a no-brainer - lovely green-headed marcianus - and they can eventually move in with my other two younsters

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3089/3226962414_b6737b0388_b.jpg

the nice lady who bred them also had some albinos that were almost neon, and if I were into albino, I'd have pounced

I did already have something I'd gotten earlier . . .
not sure about the gender, but I'm naming him Dune

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3446/3226962430_9303fdf152_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3300/3226962466_6676c03155_b.jpg

[reptile3]

very nice... sorry to hear you didn't get to meet Stephi... May I has what kind of snake is that?(Dune) Very interesting




http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3089/3226962414_b6737b0388_b.jpg

the nice lady who bred them also had some albinos that were almost neon, and if I were into albino, I'd have pounced

I did already have something I'd gotten earlier . . .
not sure about the gender, but I'm naming him Dune

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3446/3226962430_9303fdf152_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3300/3226962466_6676c03155_b.jpg

[drache]

Dune is not a snake
it's a legless lizard and I had to do a quick crash course on them, because I was smitten
thankfully there was a guy from the long island herpetological society there who'd kept them and was able to give me some pointers, but if anybody else here has kept them, I'd be happy for every tidbit of info

[count dewclaw]

Very nice additions! Dune is quite interesting, I may need to do a bit of research myself....

[GartersRock]

Dune is fantastic! That particular species is on my wishlist. :D

[anji1971]

Nice new additions, Rhea.
Dune is an interesting critter. I like him!

[Snaky]

Very nice additions, Rhea :)

[olive oil]

Dune is so cool,you lucky girl:)
Can't wait to hear more about him.

[Snake lover 3-25]

nice aditions!!!! wow dune is awesome!!!!!:D

[adamanteus]

I always wanted to keep Lialis burtoni, but never found it available in the UK. I'll be interested to hear how you get on with Dune.

[drache]

I always wanted to keep Lialis burtoni, but never found it available in the UK. I'll be interested to hear how you get on with Dune.
thanks for precise ID, James
do you know where I can find more info?
it seems they're not common here either
so far he's either very mellow, or petrified
doesn't burrow as much as I expected him to
mostly hangs out very still near or on the water bowl with his head up and alert

[adamanteus]

I guess the internet is the best starting point, Rhea. I can't be much help I'm afraid, as I said, I never had the opportunity to keep this species. Although I do have a couple of good write-ups in one or two of my books.

[adamanteus]

doesn't burrow as much as I expected him to


I may be wrong, but I don't think it's a fossorial species. I think it's very much a surface dweller. I'll read-up and come back to you, if you can't find much on the net.

[drache]

I just hope he can be made to accept rodents
I've got scenting options

[drache]

I may be wrong, but I don't think it's a fossorial species. I think it's very much a surface dweller. I'll read-up and come back to you, if you can't find much on the net.
you're right - I did some reading
somehow I guess I had it in my mind that the best reason for a lizard not to have legs would be a subterranean existence

[adamanteus]

I just hope he can be made to accept rodents

I doubt that, Rhea, they're specialized lizard eaters.
I hope you can read this.... I don't fancy typing it all out!

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//537/medium/page1.jpg

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[drache]

yeah - I'd read that one, and I shall not be daunted
animals can be recalcitrant, but they can be fooled - especially if they're hungry, and I think this one is
he's in fine shape and I don't know whether anyone captive breeds these guys, but that's what he looks like, and he can go a while, before I'll worry
he follows movement very closely, and yesterday for a moment I though he was trying to go for one of my fingers, so part of me hopes that he's been exposed to them - pinkies that is
the other possibility is that he's warming up to eat me when he grows up

[Stefan-A]

If it's a specialized lizard eater, it might be best to stick to lizards, Rhea.

[adamanteus]

If it's a specialized lizard eater, it might be best to stick to lizards, Rhea.

Yes indeed, I concur. Can you find a local breeder of feeder lizards?

[drache]

Yes indeed, I concur. Can you find a local breeder of feeder lizards?
will have to do some research, but I imagine so
as of now I do have a frozen gecko who died of kidney failure
kind of big though
I've never wanted to have a difficult animal, or one that grows as big as this one potentially can, but I really really like this one and am quite willing to put in the extra effort it takes
I wonder whether reptiles and rodents are substantially different in the type of nutrition they provide - would like to learn more about that

[adamanteus]

To be honest, Rhea, I don't think it's a question of nutrition, it's about prey preference. These lizards are, from what I have read, diurnal hunters/ambush predators... I think you might struggle to get it to accept dead prey of any kind ... even appropriate prey. I think your hopes of feeding it f/t pinkies are probably unrealistic.
As I said, I've never kept this species, so I may well be way off mark, but I have read a lot about it over the years (always wanted one) and I believe this species is better suited to specialised keepers who have the correct prey items to hand.
Personally, I think you chose a difficult one, and I would warn (again) against impulse buying.... "Look what I got.... what is it? What do I do?"
I wish you every success with this lizard, Rhea, it is a truly magnificent creature, but I think it will take considerably more than a scented pinky to keep this one alive.

[Zephyr]

Hmm...
If this is the specimen from Carolina Exotics, they said it was eating insects.
Heck, if it was that one, I was looking into buying it at one point. XD

[drache]

To be honest, Rhea, I don't think it's a question of nutrition, it's about prey preference. These lizards are, from what I have read, diurnal hunters/ambush predators... I think you might struggle to get it to accept dead prey of any kind ... even appropriate prey. I think your hopes of feeding it f/t pinkies are probably unrealistic.
As I said, I've never kept this species, so I may well be way off mark, but I have read a lot about it over the years (always wanted one) and I believe this species is better suited to specialised keepers who have the correct prey items to hand.
Personally, I think you chose a difficult one, and I would warn (again) against impulse buying.... "Look what I got.... what is it? What do I do?"
I wish you every success with this lizard, Rhea, it is a truly magnificent creature, but I think it will take considerably more than a scented pinky to keep this one alive.
I do understand what you're saying, James
and I did do some casting about for info, before I bought this guy
I do fervently hope you're at least a little bit off about the level of difficulty I am likely to encounter, because I really want to succeed in keeping him alive and getting him to thrive
I know that I am setting myself up for potential heartbreak, and I did know that when I got him, but I also felt very strongly, that where he was, at the table of LLLreptile, among every kind of herp on the market, that he was having a better than 75% chance of getting picked up by someone even less experienced than I am, with less resources and willingness to go the extra length, and I decided that it was worth trying to see what I could do

[Repfanatic]

Hi. I've had a Burton's legless for almost a year now.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j291/Pseudolove21/Pets/Burt.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j291/Pseudolove21/Pets/LL.jpg
I tried switching him to rodents MANY times, No go. They go off sight and not scent like snakes do, so it's impossible to fool them. When I got my guy I was told he eats crickets. Nope. I feed him 1 or 2 anoles a week. Here's a picture of his tank.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j291/Pseudolove21/Pets/Burtstank.jpg
I have a layer of eco earth and then a layer of aspen on top of that. The drift wood is used as a basking spot. He doesn't go up there very often, but it does get used. I have a heat pad on the left side that gives off a ground temp of 83-86. The cool side is 75-80. The heat lamp has a 40 watt bulb in it to make a basking temp of 90-95. I'm not sure what the humidity should be, but since they're from Australia I imagine it shouldn't be too high. I mist the tank every other day. I also use a reptisun 10.0 UVB since they're dinural and don't burrow often (I've seen mine burrow once). This info is just what works for me since I haven't been able to find much as far as care sheets go for them, so I've had to experiment. Good luck with yours!

[drache]

thanks for your response, Brook
Dune has eaten, so she (pretty sure it's a female) will live
she's a bit shy at this time and I hope to see more of her in the future
I like your enclosure - is it a 20G long or a 30G breeder? hard to tell . . .

[jitami]

Rhea, sorry I missed this thread when you first aquired dune(and the checkered babies :)) but wanted to say what a beautiful creature she is. Good luck with her. Sounds like Brook could be an invaluable source of info, too. Looking forward to hearing more about these guys!

[Repfanatic]

is it a 20G long or a 30G breeder?
It's a 20g long. Knew I forgot something. lol