Wayne's reptile room

[Light of Dae]

Terribly sorry to hear about Chomper :( Glad to hear peoples hearts went out to you. I know and understand Littlefoot will never be Chomper nor will he replace him. But he will become a part of your family n well taken care of I'm sure.

[EasternGirl]

Looks like Littlefoot is going to have an amazing home...when is he arriving?

[katach]

Looks great!!

[infernalis]

Looks like Littlefoot is going to have an amazing home...when is he arriving?

Next week, I am glad I called the vendor, he was going to ship a wild caught adult! I said absolutely not, I want a hatchling. So I would rather wait for the hatchling and get a fresh new life and not an adult that was free until last week.

Made more improvements.. Live grass.

I hacked up my lawn, but we have live grass in there.

http://www.chompersite.com/husbandry/grass.jpg

This conceals the opening to the hide,

http://www.chompersite.com/husbandry/grassOpen.jpg

http://www.chompersite.com/husbandry/water.jpg

[EasternGirl]

Looks great! We are all waiting to see pics of the new arrival!! Next week huh? Exciting...

[tress29]

You have a lot of patience. Once I make up my mind, I want it yesterday.

[ConcinusMan]

As of yesterday Chomper was laid to rest, he lost the battle.

His illness was a case of terminal gout brought on by long term low level dehydration.

The blood work was done and his uric acid levels were off the charts.

He will be missed.

Oh no, not Chomper!

So sorry Wayne. We'll miss him.:(

[infernalis]

You have a lot of patience. Once I make up my mind, I want it yesterday.

This allows me to keep tweaking the cage.. the now famous cage.

http://www.chompersite.com/LF/digs.jpg

[infernalis]

My babies arrived today, Littlefoot is bashful and Cera is bold.

I have already observed both of them snacking on the assorted wild bugs found in my natural vivarium type enclosure.

Fresh out of the shipping box, warming up.

http://www.varanus.us/babies/littlefoot1.jpg

http://www.varanus.us/babies/cera1.jpg

[infernalis]

Exploring the great unknown...

http://www.varanus.us/babies/littlefoot2.jpg

http://www.varanus.us/babies/cera2.jpg

http://www.varanus.us/babies/littlefoot3.jpg

http://www.varanus.us/babies/cera3.jpg

http://www.varanus.us/babies/littlefoot4.jpg

http://www.varanus.us/babies/cera4.jpg

[kibakiba]

Awwwwwwwwwww! They are so cute! Good luck with those little dinos. :D

[chris-uk]

Great looking enclosure, I'm sure they'll love it in there.

[guidofatherof5]

Very nice Wayne. Glad they arrived safely.
Both look great.

[mikem]

wow, those little guys are adorable!

[EasternGirl]

So awesome Wayne. I'm glad they arrived safely. They are so tiny! Little cuties! Congrats.

[kimbosaur]

They're so adorable! How are you going to find them in there?

[katach]

They are soooo freaking cute! I love that pic of Cera with her head held up high! Good luck with these cuties!

[kueluck]

Hmmm, so at what point are you considered a snake hoarder? :D

[MasSalvaje]

Wayne I have been following this thread as long as I have been on this site and I must thank you for taking the time to share all of the ups and downs especially this last round with the loss of Chomper and the addition of Littlefoot and Cera. I am amazed at the love and dedication you put into all of your animals and then taking the time to bring us along on the ride, it is truly inspiring. I always look forward to your updates on all of your animals. Best wishes with the little ones!

-Thomas

[ConcinusMan]

Paint 'em or cut 'em Wayne. Wow.

[infernalis]

a few more.. Sorry these two are preoccupying me at the time.

http://www.varanus.us/babies/LF1.jpg

http://www.varanus.us/babies/LF2.jpg

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http://www.varanus.us/babies/swim1.jpg

http://www.varanus.us/babies/swim2.jpg

http://www.varanus.us/babies/swim3.jpg

http://www.varanus.us/babies/swim4.jpg

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[EasternGirl]

They are so darn cute!

[guidofatherof5]

Awesome. Love those little faces.

[infernalis]

My favourite two quotes of the day, regarding the video..


I had to double, triple check to see if it was a cage or somewhere outside on your property!

I had to stop and think whether that was shot outside or in your enclosure!

[infernalis]

They are so darn cute!

Cute and tempermental.

Littlefoot has some killer vocal cords and loves to hiss and Cera is a hand biter.

[EasternGirl]

This is something that they will grow out of as they get used to you and get a bit older? Similar to a young tempermental snake?

[InsanePirateDragon]

Just read through this entire thread. Your room is just awesome Wayne. And cute little Savannahs. The local reptile store has a good sized guy that is the owner's personal pet. And he loves the guy.

[gregmonsta]

It's going to be a joy watching them grow into that space ;)

[infernalis]

This is something that they will grow out of as they get used to you and get a bit older? Similar to a young tempermental snake?

If they are at all like Chomper was, they will grow out of it.

Like almost any baby reptile, they know they are easy prey for birds and such, so they are really scared right now, one day when they get big enough to eat the birds, the fright reflex goes away.

http://www.varanus.us/babies/dirtyworm.jpg

[EasternGirl]

Too cute!

[Light of Dae]

Awesome to see the new little tyrants arrived safe n sound n are enjoying the amazing home you built. I love that enclosure. I'm full of envy.

[infernalis]

Awesome to see the new little tyrants arrived safe n sound n are enjoying the amazing home you built. I love that enclosure. I'm full of envy.

I would love to build another and let some garters loose in it. That would be cool to watch.

Oh, and thank you.:cool:

[infernalis]

While recording candid footage of my baby Savannah Monitors today I captured a rare moment that I would like to share.

In this sequence you can clearly see Littlefoot walk up and rest his head on Cera, and then stroke her back with his left hand.

Sorry for the poor video quality, I am saving up to get a HD camera so these moments can be of the highest quality.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OIr7e5AVLQ

As soon as I get this footage edited better, I have a clip of Littlefoot "surfing" on the grass as if he was swimming.

[kibakiba]

That is the cutest thing I've ever seen. Those are some adorable little monsters!

[guidofatherof5]

Nice.

[EasternGirl]

How precious is that? Little cutie dinos.

[katach]

So cute!

[infernalis]

That is the cutest thing I've ever seen. Those are some adorable little monsters!


How precious is that? Little cutie dinos.


So cute!


That cute little lizard from the pet store will one day grow up to become a ferocious carnivore that could snap your family cat's neck and swallow it whole. - Daniel Bennett (biologist)

They don't stay that way for long...

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Imagine when they are 4 feet long and weigh as much as a dog....

[guidofatherof5]

Awesome.

[kibakiba]

I still say cute, even when they are huge. To me, their faces are adorable.

[ConcinusMan]

Imagine when they are 4 feet long and weigh as much as a dog....

Deeno! here boy, here boy... yabba dabba doo!

[infernalis]

Since everyone seems interested in the lizards...

http://www.savannahmonitor.co/cera/worm.jpg

http://www.savannahmonitor.co/cera/hunch.jpg

http://www.savannahmonitor.co/cera/piggy.jpg

http://www.savannahmonitor.co/cera/slug.jpg

http://www.savannahmonitor.co/cera/sticky.jpg

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And my prize posession...

http://www.chompersite.com/AGbook.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Very nice Wayne.

[EasternGirl]

Awesome...I really like that second pic! Thanks for sharing.

[infernalis]

The intelligence and capacity for learning with these animals is just amazing, borderline primate level intelligence. It had already been proven they can count.

I have been speaking with Dr. Gordon M. Burghardt at the University of Tennessee, and I find it interesting that the two animals he studies the most are African Monitor Lizards and Thamnophis, His specialty is Bio-Psychology and his primary studies are learning and problem solving.

[Natrix]

Has anyone kept Zebra Tailed lizards,48334834 Callisaurus draconoides? If so does anyone have any caresheets on them?

[infernalis]

Easy, keep hot, use sand, offer UVB, feed it bugs.

as with any lizard, the more space you offer it, the better.

Unlike snakes, Lizards like to run and play, so the more space you can provide, the better.

That species lives in the Nevada deserts, so hot and sandy would be the most likely best choice for a happy animal.

[Natrix]

I have a 4 foot 20" x 20" aquarium which is currently housing fish but I am thinking of replacing one of the light tubes with a UV tube and a statted heat mat at one end.

[infernalis]

I would put a heat matt at one end, and a basking lamp at the other.

Desert lizards like hot sunlight.

[Natrix]

Ok! If I decide to do it that's the way Ill go. As a rule I dislike using aquariums for snakes and lizards but I may make an acception here. The tank is to good to get rid of and would cost a fortune to replace. It will do as a stop gap until I can get something else sorted.

[EasternGirl]

Okay...did I hear you correctly, did you say these monitors can count?

[Didymus20X6]

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My kind of reptile!
AH AH AH AH AAHH!

*thunder lightning*

[infernalis]

Okay...did I hear you correctly, did you say these monitors can count?

Yes, in laberatory experiments performed by Dr. Burghardt it was confirmed that test subjects could count as high as six.

I will post the results if interested.

[infernalis]

Here is a clip demonstrating the intelligence of these animals.

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[guidofatherof5]

Keep them coming Wayne. Very cool stuff.

[EasternGirl]

Yes..please post the results. I was telling my son about this today and we were interested in reading how it was that they determined they can count...that had to be a very interesting study! Very fascinating stuff, Wayne. I had no idea that monitors were so intelligent.

[EasternGirl]

Okay...I just watched the video after my last post...the video kind of answered my question about the counting...but I would still be interested in seeing the results of the study. That video was incredible!

[infernalis]

Here is the data from one such test.

http://www.varanus.us/reports/08AnCogMon.pdf

[BUSHSNAKE]

monitors are kick @$$...ive kept peach throats and brown rough necks and im a huge fan of Walter Auffenburg, to me hes the first lizard king

[infernalis]

monitors are kick @$$...ive kept peach throats and brown rough necks and im a huge fan of Walter Auffenburg, to me hes the first lizard king

Just for you Joe, an exclusive Komodo photo,(Auffenberg's passion) Courtesy of Dr. David Kisrshner, He's currently down in the everglades studying Alligators.

http://www.varanus.us/Dave/komodo2.jpg

[BUSHSNAKE]

Auffenberg has written a couple books about komodo dragons and greys monitor but they are impossible to find

[infernalis]

Did you see the Butaan thread at ssnakess? (Greys) Daniel captured some incredible footage of them eating fruit.

Butaan Monitor Special (http://www.varanus.us/butaan.html)

[BUSHSNAKE]

yep

[infernalis]

They decided to try human flesh for supper today.

First time, Littlefoot samples some skin..

http://www.varanusforums.com/bite/bite.jpg

Not wanting to be left out, Cera takes a bite to see what all the ruckus is about.

http://www.varanusforums.com/bite/bite1.jpg

http://www.varanusforums.com/bite/bite2.jpg

Thing is, Cera wanted to swallow, she was not about to give up.

http://www.varanusforums.com/bite/bite3.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Now they have a taste for man flesh. Lock your bedroom doors at night.:D

[InsanePirateDragon]

They'll keep coming back for more too, they seem to make a game of it.

I've had to give up on hand feeding my male Leo because of it as I don't know how many times he's made attempts to get my finger.

[BUSHSNAKE]

hey wayne came across a guy who is trying to breed a blue line of savanahs...also heard of an albino

[infernalis]

hey wayne came across a guy who is trying to breed a blue line of savanahs...also heard of an albino

I am on the list for babies from this girl....

http://www.varanus.us/OPP/Albino.jpg

http://www.varanus.us/OPP/Albino2.jpg

[BUSHSNAKE]

hypo?

[infernalis]

We have been calling her Albino, The word Hypo has been tossed around too.

[katach]

Amazing creatures!

[ConcinusMan]

Looks T pos albino. The dark eye doesn't mean squat if the mutation is for skin-exclusive pigments. Looks great.

[infernalis]

Had fun with this feeding session..

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[guidofatherof5]

Leaping lizards Wayne. That is cool.

[kibakiba]

That's adorable Wayne! It makes me want one... But I wouldn't be able to take care of them... I'll just depend on you to keep a bunch of videos of those cuties... ;)

[ConcinusMan]

"profound" spotting? must be spots shaped like the virgin mary? a map of the known universe perhaps? :p

[infernalis]

I guess it's about time for a little update..

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http://www.varanid.us/523/1.jpg

http://www.varanid.us/523/2.jpg

http://www.varanid.us/523/3.jpg

http://www.varanid.us/523/4.jpg

full gallery at... Savannah Monitors (http://www.savannahmonitor.co/babies/)

[guidofatherof5]

Very nice Wayne. Love the video. Looking like they are getting used to you guys.

[kimbosaur]

I was just thinking how cute the name Little Foot is and wondering why you didn't name the female "Sarah" and then I got it...

When are you going to add a Spike to the mix? He was my fav! :)

[Invisible Snake]

I was just thinking how cute the name Little Foot is and wondering why you didn't name the female "Sarah" and then I got it...

When are you going to add a Spike to the mix? He was my fav! :)

What animated movie are those names from?

[Steveo]

What animated movie are those names from?

I think it's The Land Before Time.

[kibakiba]

He has Sera, doesn't he? Or am I missing something...?

[kimbosaur]

Yes, I just didn't put two and two together because of the spelling. Brain fart. :D

[infernalis]

I think it's The Land Before Time.

Yup yup yup.......


He has Sera, doesn't he? Or am I missing something...?

I have a pair, Littlefoot and Cera.

[katach]

I love Petri! He's so cute!

[SnakeGurl]

Wow, great room. I want it, lol.

[infernalis]

My wife has been painting the reptile room... tell me what you think.

If you checked this thread looking for more lizard pictures.. click here. Savannah Monitor Gallery (http://www.savannahmonitor.net/Exanthematicus/)

http://www.thamnophis.co/illustrations/tree.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/illustrations/vines.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/illustrations/backwall.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/illustrations/mural1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/illustrations/mural2.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Nice job Dorothy.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

Painted walls makes everything better:)

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Looks like too much hard work for me! :p It looks nice Wayne.

[ProXimuS]

Very nice! I think the reptiles will like it:)

[ConcinusMan]

Honestly, I don't think they'll notice or even care.

[infernalis]

Honestly, I don't think they'll notice or even care.

Exactly...^^^^^^^^

[jitami]

The reptiles may not notice or care, but if it makes you and Dorothy happy then it's well worth the time. I love it!

[infernalis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPPKpZT2A3Y

[ConcinusMan]

They're growing so fast!

[Selkielass]

They are growing beautifully!
How long will it take them to approach the size of Chomper when we saw him going for walks?
That was such a memorable image... r.i.p. Chiller.

[infernalis]

Growth has been around an inch a week.

They are mature and growth will begin to slow down in a couple more months, But they will never look like Chomper did.

His care was critically flawed, so he was fat and lethargic. These two should remain skinny and look like they do in the wild.

[Selkielass]

I noticed the leaner build, but didn't know if it was maturity linked or what.
Im glad they are doing so I well.

[-MARWOLAETH-]

It's good to see nice lean bosc monitors for a change! :D

[guidofatherof5]

Looking good Wayne.

[ProXimuS]

Nice:D How big do these guys get?

[ConcinusMan]

http://www.budgetwebsiteservices.co.uk/Photos/me.JPG

http://www.brockettsfilmfauna.com/images/Lizards/savannah%20monitor%20lizard.jpg

[infernalis]

Nice:D How big do these guys get?

http://www.chompersite.com/indoors/images/chomp2.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

"Dino! Here boy!"

[infernalis]

Not these two Richard, They have a lot of "wild" in them still.

[infernalis]

Taste like chicken!

http://www.varanuspark.com/chix/ckick1.jpg

http://www.varanuspark.com/chix/chick1.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Those kids are really growing.

[infernalis]

a couple quick pics..
http://www.varanuspark.com/chix/loggie.jpg

http://www.varanuspark.com/chix/noelly.jpg

http://www.varanuspark.com/chix/wormslam.jpg

http://www.varanuspark.com/chix/yumface.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

They are looking good and growing very well.