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Snakesitter
02-12-2007, 07:35 AM
Hi there.

I'm looking after a snake for a friend. Now I know he's a marcianus, but how do I know which marcianus he is?

Wikipedia says there's three subspecies of marcianus: marcianus, praeocularis and bovalli. I've not been able to find any information or pictures on what the differences are. Perhaps somebody here can help.

Thanks

Karl

ssssnakeluvr
02-12-2007, 08:50 AM
preoculis and bovalli are mexican subspecies and not available in the pet trade. He have a marcianus marcianus, the common checkered garter, nice snakes too!!!

GarterGuy
02-12-2007, 09:29 AM
Yep, pretty much the only ones out there are T.m.marcianus.

Snakesitter
02-12-2007, 11:50 AM
Cool enough. Does anybody know what the differences are between the three?

Thamnophis
02-12-2007, 08:10 PM
The two other subspecies are not Mexican, but live even more southwards...

Thamnophis marcianus bovalli - from southwest Nicaragua up to northern Costa Rica.
Thamnophis marcianus marcianus - from southwest Kansas to the west up to southeastern California and southwards, viavia the north and east of Mexico, up to northern-Veracruz. In Tehuantepec (Oaxaca, Mexico) lives an isolated population.
Thamnophis marcianus praeocularis - from the Yucatan-peninsula, via Belize and northeastern Guatemala up to western Honduras.

I do not know the physical differences.