Two questions I've been wondering about [Archive]

mtolypetsupply

11-14-2008, 07:03 AM

Can snakes be microchipped like dogs, cats, horses, etc are?

I've never heard of a snake "registry" like other animals have. With the intense genetic studies and breeding programs people have I'd think there would be one. Is there one? If so, do people use it or is it all but defunct?

infernalis

11-14-2008, 07:10 AM

We had a big discussion once on Kingsnake about that subject.

It was interesting, however not nearly as effective as keeping them secure in the first place.

See if a cute little doggy runs away, there is almost always someone who will pick it up and take it home..

However if a snake should escape your home, it will most likely never be seen again, Not even by another human.

Unless of course it is something large and aberrant, then it can be worse yet (Like the story Shannon shared about the big albino that was decapitated.)

So in a nutshell, micro-chipping a snake is not likely going to be very effective.

adamanteus

11-14-2008, 07:13 AM

I guess micro-chipping might be useful to prove ownership of dangerous exotics, or if a snake has been stolen. But I'm not sure if the relative lack of sub-cutaneous fatty tissue on a snake might make it uncomfortable for the animal anyway.

infernalis

11-14-2008, 07:20 AM

Wow James, that aspect never got brought up at all.

Someone has his thinking cap on:D

I can imagine that a snake would find anything lodged under it's skin to be annoying, possibly even to the point of rubbing the spot against things to try and get rid of the new "parasite"

Venomoid Inc. Uses tattooing on the roof of the mouth to prove de-venomation, According to their web site.

But then again, if your Viper or Cobra was found, I honestly think it would be a "Shoot first, ask later" situation anyways.

mtolypetsupply

11-14-2008, 07:27 AM

See if a cute little doggy runs away, there is almost always someone who will pick it up and take it home..

I'm picturing James and Ernestine all mad because I won't give them extra pinkies... so they slither away, holding little hobo sticks (you know, with bandanna pouches hanging off them) in their tails!

I was thinking about the microchipping more for verification purposes. I have a friend who breeds pythons, and have heard horror stories about the scams in the big snakes. Then again, it would only be as good/accurate as the person /vet doing the chipping, I guess.

ssssnakeluvr

11-14-2008, 11:16 AM

I wouldn't recomend it with garters.....the microchips are the size of a grain of rice...they are inserted with a 14 gauge needle....very large needle for these smaller snakes...they are great for dogs and cats..but little snakes theey could be a problem.

Zephyr

11-14-2008, 01:05 PM

However if a snake should escape your home, it will most likely never be seen again, Not even by another human.

Never say never.
:)
I lost one of my male wanderings 3 times; once outside and twice in the house. He was gone outside for a month, and I found him "running" across the lawn.

infernalis

11-14-2008, 03:38 PM

Kyle, I never said never...:D

reptile3

11-14-2008, 03:41 PM

if anyone looses a cat, it will most likely be at my house!!!
my neighbor calls it the Cat Buffet!!!

infernalis

11-14-2008, 03:43 PM

if anyone looses a cat, it will most likely be at my house!!!
my neighbor calls it the Cat Buffet!!!

Here they just drop them off out front:(

reptile3

11-14-2008, 03:53 PM

Here they just drop them off out front:(

I believe that is what they are doing here too. just dropping them off in the neighborhood. Since we are a very quiet street, No street lights at all.

I have a cat here for over 6 weeks now, living in my garage. I can't keep him, my male cat fights him. Last summer(2007) a black cat I had been feeding, decided to have her litter on my back porch.

guidofatherof5

11-14-2008, 03:54 PM

How about this. A small micro-GPS tracking chip. Snake gets lost, get out your hand-held and track them down. I've had this idea for awhile but too many ideas to work on all of them.

Stefan-A

11-14-2008, 04:02 PM

How about this. A small micro-GPS tracking chip. Snake gets lost, get out your hand-held and track them down. I've had this idea for awhile but too many ideas to work on all of them.
Sadly, they don't make GPS transmitters that small yet. But they did make a cockroach practically remote controlled with a brain implant. In a decade or three, you're going to be able to get the snake to return home, climb into the cage and close the door behind it.

reptile3

11-14-2008, 04:06 PM

Sadly, they don't make GPS transmitters that small yet. But they did make a cockroach practically remote controlled with a brain implant. In a decade or three, you're going to be able to get the snake to return home, climb into the cage and close the door behind it.

wow, pretty interesting

Loren

11-15-2008, 06:36 PM

if anyone looses a cat, it will most likely be at my house!!!
my neighbor calls it the Cat Buffet!!!

You eat cats ???

:D

infernalis

11-15-2008, 06:37 PM

Here Kitty Kitty

Loren

11-15-2008, 06:38 PM

I have been under the impression people have already been microchipping some of the more expensive and/or dangerous snakes for a while already. Not so much for "lost" animals, but for theft proof, and liabilty reasons. I expect it to be part of permitting processes, if it isnt already.

anji1971

11-15-2008, 09:33 PM

I think it would be great to microchip the garters for studying too. Then we could really track where they hibernate, how far they travel, and the whereabouts/survival rate of relocated snakes. I'd love to be able to "follow" a few wild garters as they go about their business all season.

Lori P

11-16-2008, 06:51 AM

I just keep collars and name tags on all my snakes... :D:D

drache

11-16-2008, 09:42 AM

You eat cats ???

:D
he's got a pie shop

Lori P

11-16-2008, 02:46 PM

ROFL Rhea!

My hubby has a t shirt:

"I love cats!
I just can't eat one all by myself"

LOL... and of course he doesn't mean it, we have lots of cats. :-) But it's a funny shirt.

Loren

11-16-2008, 02:57 PM

I bet I could eat something the size of a cat, but not a cat. Just doesnt sound good at all.
:D

drache

11-17-2008, 04:08 AM

I bet I could eat something the size of a cat, but not a cat. Just doesnt sound good at all.
:D
it's all in the preparation, Loren

Stefan-A

11-17-2008, 08:57 AM

I bet I could eat something the size of a cat, but not a cat. Just doesnt sound good at all.
:D
I've heard that carnivores and piscivores usually don't taste good. Still, I would eat cat.

infernalis

11-17-2008, 09:36 AM

Given the right circumstances, I'd eat cat too.

However that would have to be about the last source of protein available.

Lori P

11-22-2008, 06:47 PM

I was just browsing Kingsnake and came across this ad-- they offer microchipping for $25! So I guess that answers that.

kingsnake.com Classifieds (http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=6&de=647758)

brain

12-21-2008, 04:50 PM

I bet I could eat something the size of a cat, but not a cat. Just doesnt sound good at all.
:D
Dog, cat, chicken it's all the same when youve had to much to drink. Trust me in the PI you would never know what it was ..yummm :confused:

GartersRock

12-23-2008, 11:02 AM

Stefan-A

12-23-2008, 11:15 AM

Yeah well. Pray this doesn't happen in your area. I was SO mad. Lol! Thank GOD I don't live in the city limits of San Marcos. Hey San Marcos Members - South Texas Reptiles Forum (http://www.southtexasreptiles.com/strforum/showthread.php?t=7431)
Well, what can I say. There sure are a lot of people who believe that you can solve problems by throwing laws at it.