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Cobra Kai
10-11-2008, 08:09 AM
Hi,
I’m really falling in love with Pugets (T. s. pickeringii). I’ve been catching wind of this infamous Bob character. So I am concerned about dealing only with good reputable breeders. :confused: In my research I have found Scott F. and Scott H. of Snake Venture. Are these the best breeders of high blues? Is there any other breeders out there I should look into?
Thanks! :D
Garter_Gertie
10-11-2008, 12:38 PM
Bob is no "breeder," from what I understand from reading here.

Scott F., I personally think, has inflated prices. But I think he's ethical and a very good person. He's really puts thought and care into his snakes. I say this because of the dealings I've read here about him and his relationships with others and his, Scott's, snakes. I would not hesitate to buy from him - if I were rich. He is, I think though, a good person.

I've no idea who Scott H. is.

Personally, my heart lies with Rick - he's a moderator here... Carazon, or somthing like that. I'm working with him and the man is ethical, caring, not out to make huge amounts of money, and is very very fair. He is understanding, kind and very willing to work with a person. His prices are realistic... Actually "cheap" if you look at other Puget prices. I've yet to receive my snigglettes from him, but I do know someone that has. My take on what she has told me is she's very thrilled and happy and the snakes "are gorgeous!"

My opinion, I'd work with Rick way before working with Scott. Just me.
Garter_Gertie
10-11-2008, 12:40 PM
P.S. See "Pugets Re Deux."
GartersRock
10-11-2008, 02:04 PM
What she said. :D And I am the one who has the pugets from Rick! He is AMAZING to work with. ;)
Tori
10-11-2008, 02:24 PM
Scott H. is the guy I got my female puget from. I believe he originally bought from Bob and doctored them until they were healthy. He bred from those. He attends our Grand Rapids reptile expo.
Cobra Kai
10-11-2008, 04:11 PM
Thanks for the great advice. Do you guys have any photos you can post or tell me the thread there on?
Cheers! :D
EdgyExoticReptiles
10-11-2008, 04:19 PM
Scott H has some good ones but there very pricey, this female is from him http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/edgyexoticreptiles/My%20Collection/Garters/DSC_2235.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/edgyexoticreptiles/My%20Collection/Garters/DSC_2258.jpg
and this male
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk260/edgyexoticreptiles/My%20Collection/Garters/DSC_2301.jpg

Scott H. is the guy I got my female puget from. I believe he originally bought from Bob and doctored them until they were healthy. He bred from those. He attends our Grand Rapids reptile expo.
ill be breeding these in spring and if they have babies theyll b $35-40 each
Cobra Kai
10-11-2008, 05:49 PM
Scott H has some good ones but there very pricey, this female is from him
NOW THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!!!
Your Pugets are outstanding. In fact, I saw those pics on another thread and it made me want one for sure.

Are those considered “high blue”?

Not in your case, but in general are males usually brighter and more brilliant in color than females?

Thanks for sharing.
Lori P
10-11-2008, 06:02 PM
Aren't the Pugets just nothing short of magical??? I ADORE them. Good luck finding yours... I know you'll get an awesome pair from any of the people you've mentioned!!
EdgyExoticReptiles
10-12-2008, 01:21 AM
yes my pugets would be considered high blue, and from what ive seen males are usually a lot more navy blue whereas females are more navy-sky blue

NOW THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!!!
Your Pugets are outstanding. In fact, I saw those pics on another thread and it made me want one for sure.

Are those considered “high blue”?

Not in your case, but in general are males usually brighter and more brilliant in color than females?

Thanks for sharing.
Tori
10-12-2008, 04:03 AM
My female is the dark blue like your male and my male is the color blue just like your female. Go figure.
snakeman
10-12-2008, 12:34 PM
I thought I was the only one on here that did not have pugets.
drache
10-12-2008, 01:22 PM
I thought I was the only one on here that did not have pugets.
I don't either
one just cannot have everything
Garter_Gertie
10-12-2008, 01:46 PM
Oh! But one can! LOL!

S/he who dies with the most snigglettes wins!

Guess ittiz a dead heat between Don and Shannon!
drache
10-12-2008, 04:41 PM
S/he who dies with the most snigglettes wins!

and then the snigglettes go to the rescue?
Zephyr
10-12-2008, 05:05 PM
I thought I was the only one on here that did not have pugets.You're not alone. :P
I prefer easterns. More personality with the same colorful flare.
IN MY BETTER-THAN-ALL OPINION.
infernalis
10-12-2008, 07:46 PM
and then the snigglettes go to the rescue?

Thanks for that Rhea, Nice to know I am not alone feeling that way.

I often morbidly wonder what if?
Zephyr
10-12-2008, 07:57 PM
Thanks for that Rhea, Nice to know I am not alone feeling that way.

I often morbidly wonder what if?
Oh dear Lord.
I'd demand the big guy send me back down right then and there. lol
Garter_Gertie
10-12-2008, 07:57 PM
Maybe we should all ask to be included in Don and Shanon's wills? Sos the kids DON'T go to a rescue?

Would be nice. Comfort for those of us that worry "What if?" And comfort for those that worry, "What happens later?"
Cobra Kai
10-12-2008, 08:33 PM
and then the snigglettes go to the rescue?
THAT'S AWESOME!http://cornsnakes.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif
GartersRock
10-12-2008, 09:16 PM
You're not alone. :P
I prefer easterns. More personality with the same colorful flare.
IN MY BETTER-THAN-ALL OPINION.

???? Pugets in my experience have the most personality. :rolleyes:
infernalis
10-13-2008, 06:21 AM
I have to agree with Amanda here.

Out of all my garter snakes, Sky is the one who likes to be held.

Or better to say, he tolerates handling the best.

He was the first of my garters to eat from my hand:D

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/sky/sky.jpg
count dewclaw
10-13-2008, 10:45 AM
My pugets are really mellow. They are a bit timid when first approached, but once you are holding them they are great.

Penny
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/penny.JPG

Azule (getting ready to shed)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/azule.JPG

I plan on breeding them in the spring....
Garter_Gertie
10-13-2008, 10:52 AM
Hay! Their tongues are all black! Never noticed that before. Eastern's are black and red. Cool!
bkhuff1s
10-13-2008, 12:45 PM
I have a 1.1 pair of Pugets I'm trying to breed. They are from the infamous "Bob". Mine seem to be fine. Couldn't get mine to bite someone if I tried. Jumpiest little guys I've ever had. Soon as I walk up to the cage they jump like crazy, but they're fine once I pull them out.
count dewclaw
10-13-2008, 12:48 PM
Hay! Their tongues are all black! Never noticed that before. Eastern's are black and red. Cool!

Nope, their tongues are red and black....he just doesn't have his tongue sticking out far enough for you to see the red. :D
Garter_Gertie
10-13-2008, 01:30 PM
Oh! Thanks, LeAnn!
prattypus
10-13-2008, 02:49 PM
See, I used to think that the Pugets were the same as the Florida Blue. I'm a big believer in ingnorance is bliss...
Stefan-A
10-13-2008, 02:53 PM
I'm a big believer in ingnorance is bliss...
So am I.
Cobra Kai
10-13-2008, 06:58 PM
I have to agree with Amanda here.

Out of all my garter snakes, Sky is the one who likes to be held.

Or better to say, he tolerates handling the best.

He was the first of my garters to eat from my hand:D

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/sky/sky.jpg
Cool action shot. Thanks Wayne!


My pugets are really mellow. They are a bit timid when first approached, but once you are holding them they are great.

Penny
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/penny.JPG

Azule (getting ready to shed)
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/azule.JPG

I plan on breeding them in the spring....
Penny looks like a blue cobra. Great pictures!