Pugets Re Deaux

[Garter_Gertie]

I didn't want to hijack Reed's thread or be mean to him, considering what his thread is about...

BUT...

I'M GETTING THREE PUGETS SOON!!! It will be a couple weeks as I've got to pay the breeder first - and gods bless that saint of a man, he's WILLING to take INSTALLMENT payments! Yes! He's willing to fritter and piss around with whatever I'm able to afford to send him. Once all my money's there and the checks are cleared - MY PEWGIES WILL COME!!!!

I'm getting two males to go with Peepers and Jeepers. And, CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS??? - he's GIVING ME FOR FREE a Pewgie he can't sell as it has a floppy tail that every once in awhile flips up-side-down.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm getting the third Pewgie due to his kindness. I don't know yet if it's female or male. But if female I'll put her in her own tank so she can't breed with the boys accidentily. She'll only be alone for a bit as I'll find a female or two to keep her company. I DON'T want her to get lonely.

I'M SO XCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!! And so HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pewgies were a dream for me and I never believed I'd have them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'M SSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bsol]

I get the sense you're pretty excited!!! hehe!
well i'm excited for you! You know you need to be posting up some pics Gertie!
or
Double 'G'!
or
GG!
which do you prefer?

[GartersRock]

Whoohoo!!! I was wondering when you would spill the beans. :D

[Garter_Gertie]

Yes, I'm excited!

Dekay-Wayne got me started in gaters - possession-wise - and so far, that's all I have is the two NY Eastern Garters I got from him, Peepers and Jeepers.

I've wanted Pugets forever; well... as long as I've been into garters which is about six months. YES, I'M VERY XCITED!!!

And prolly more so since the breeder is so laid back and so willing to work with someone that doesn't have pot or window one. Totallly cool about taking payments - more worried about how I'm going to receive what he sends - esthetic-wise.

Great guy and I hope to work with him again.

You can call me what you want. You can also call me 'mk,' which is what I go by. But, whatever flips your switch.

[GartersRock]

Seeing a Puget was what got me into realizing I could get into garters seriously. :D Now I love them ALL!

[Garter_Gertie]

Ah, my 'Rockster. At whos feet I must lay all blame. Girlfriend, thanks for being a friend and giving my your help. You're a love! Should I ever breed Hoggies, one has your name on it.

I didn't want to "spill the beans" until everything was worked out financially and logistically. I didn't want to talk outta school and then have to come back and say, "Oh. Never mind! No Pewgies for me!"

Thanks, Amanda. There's the possibility one o'my new babies will carry your name. Only fitting. Hugs to you.

[GartersRock]

Awe....!!! *hug* I love you Gertie!! :D Thank YOU for being a great friend!
Oooo.. :D I LOVE hoggies. :D

*blush* After me? *blush* lol!

[Garter_Gertie]

P.S.

Anudder reason I waited was I wanted to make sure YOU, 'Rockster, were the first I shared it with. Got that done and then there was no NEED to contain the xitement ANY LONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah. After you. If Broke Back is a gull, I'm gonna name her... 'ROCKSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You like that? Or should I go with Amanda? I like 'Rockster - has more meanting to us.

Yeah. I may not be breeding Hoggies, but I may be getting some that I like and want to love and hug and kiss if my breeder can use them. Details to follow...

Actually, no matter what sex Broken Back is, it's named 'Rockster. S/he's special, great, a bit quirky, and a great person. Yeah. No matter the sex.

[GartersRock]

*blush* I LOVE it! :D

[Garter_Gertie]

Me, too. Unique for the unique.

(high fives 'Rockster)

One snigglette's name down. Two to go.

I'm thinking Inuit (did I spell that rite?) names.

[GartersRock]

*high five*!

Inuit?

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol congrats gertie:D

[Garter_Gertie]

Yeah. Alaskan Natives? It's spelled something like that. I'm in the ballpark with the spelling, but I don't know for sure.

Words from their culture. Like my Hoggies.

Kanabec means "snake" in Ojibway. "Niizh" means two (the word for green was a billion letters long and I couldn't pronounce it, let alone remember the spelling!)

[Garter_Gertie]

Thank you, Shanley, my dear. Thank you VERY MUCH!!!!

[GartersRock]

Oh that would be cool!!!!!

[Garter_Gertie]

What can I say? Great minds. THANKS!!!!

I'll have to Google like I did for Niizh - I knew Kenabec (we've a county here named that that the Snake River runs through).

Will be cool. Yeah.

I'm snuggely, quiet, cuddley, at-peace-happy. I'm really super happy.

[Garter_Gertie]

'Rockster, so glad you approve the name for my little what-ever-sex free snake.

You'll never know what it means to me. Thanks.

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol i wish i could think of a good name!!!!:(

[GartersRock]

Awe... *blush* lol!


Hmmm.... Google is wonderful. :D Can't wait to hear what you come up with!!

[Snake lover 3-25]

gertie can you help me think of a name for my baby girl????? she's in the 'new baby girl' thread:D

[Garter_Gertie]

Shanley... I, personally, think you have.

I've always been amazed at the name Sooty for a garter. SO FITTING!!!!

And Willow? Garters are so willowy.

Continue to go with your heart. Your heart will burbble up names.

You do damn good, Kid. You do damn good.

[GartersRock]

Hmmm.... Cikuq means Ice... Which is what Pugets remind me of for some STRANGE reason. LOL!
Iluliaq = Iceberg
Iyaroak = Apple of the Eye LOL!
Kunikpok = Kisses :D
Quvianuq = Joy
Tungortok = Is blue :D
Asiavik = New blue berry. LOL

*shrugs* Hmmm......

[Garter_Gertie]

Shanley, I can try to think up a name. But... It wouldn't have the feeling and love and meaning as it would if it came from you.

Keep doing what you're doing. Think of a name that connects and means something to you.

I think the names you've come up with equal or better the names I've come up with.

Follow your heart...

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol ok i'll try:D

[Garter_Gertie]

Kunikpok = Kisses YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Tungortok = Is blue YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Gonna go with those. Yup. Love them.

Now just gotta practice pronouncing them. You know how to that properly, 'Ster?

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol that was fast:D neat names:D

[Garter_Gertie]

Shanley, if you like it and it means something to you... Name her "Gertie." I'd be proud...

[GartersRock]

You are actually gonna use 'em?! :D:D:D:D:D
I thought you would like kisses!! ;)
Nope. But like I said. Google is amazing!

[GartersRock]

K - The k has two distinctly different pronounciations. The first one is that of the k in king, vg. ikkitit, matches; the second one is pronounced deep in the throat. It is very similar to a Kr and we have written it thus.
The second last syllable is stressed usually.
J and Y - The j and the y are interchangeable and should be pronounced as y in you.
S - The s is generally pronounced as sh, eg. amisut (amishut). Some bands in the Eskimo Point region pronounce it as an h, vg. asso (aHo).
I - the i is pronounced as ee, vg. inuk (eenuk).
U - the u is pronounced oo as in shoot, or better as in the latin "una".
NG - The ng is pronounced with a single sound, as in singing and never as in "ungodly".
DLERK - at the end of a word is pronounced like TSLERK. It is in fact the only really difficult pronounciation, along perhaps with the KR.

[GartersRock]

Kooneekpok? I don't know. LOL!

[GartersRock]

KoongortOk??

[GartersRock]

Does anyone know. lol!

[Garter_Gertie]

Ah, 'Ster... I'll attack the pronuciation-thingy someother time.

Ittiz Friday, long week, ditzo over my new kids, and not quite right with gods-I've-lost-count-of-the-beers.

Do you have my e-mail address? If snot, let me know and I'll send to you. I had to study the Ojibway pronunciation chart for quite awhile and practise for quite awhile to get Niizh down correctly.

[GartersRock]

Cool! And no I don't. ;)

[Garter_Gertie]

YES, I'm gonna use them, YOU NUTCASE! They fit them and me!

I'm gonna be kissing on those boys just as I do Peepers, Jeepers, Kenabec and Niizh!

GREAT FABUOUS NAMES!!!!!!!! I love them and am very comfortable with them. They fit and feel good...

Auntie 'Rockster.

Thanks for saving me the work! It wouldn't be until 2morrow I'd be up to it! LOL!!!

[Garter_Gertie]

You know how to contact me.

[GartersRock]

LOL!!! YAY! I am a snake Aunt! :D
Well glad you liked the names!! So awesome!! WHOO!

[Garter_Gertie]

You are so silly! I love your en-thoo-see-as-um! Yeah. You gotta be Auntie.

THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROFLOLPMP!!!!!!!!!

Thanks. For everything. I appreciate it.

[GartersRock]

Whoohoo!!!! :D ;)

[Garter_Gertie]

I think this is the way ittiz gonna go, unless someone that understands better can correct me:

Kunikpok = KunEEKpok

Tungortok = ToonGORtok

I *think* that's the way to pronounce the names. From what 'Rockster posted.

[count dewclaw]

Congrats on the pugets!! You will not be disappointed, they are beautiful snakes! But I may be biased. :rolleyes:

[Garter_Gertie]

Eh, LeAnn... Aren't all of us biased to garters and then one or more in particular? Doesn't matter. We're all into garters!

Thank you muchly for the congratulations! I appreciate it!!!

[Lori P]

Congrats Gertie!!!!!! It was the Pugets who got me into garters, too. In fact it was the Pugets who got me more into the whole snake experience. So they are either to thank or to blame, depending on if you ask me or hubby. LOLOL

I look at mine every day and am just wowed, over and over, by how stunning they are. :-)

[jitami]

Huge congrats Gertie!!! I am so excited for you :)

[Garter_Gertie]

Lori, Tami, THANKS!!!

Huh. I wasn't aware Pugets were the reason so many got into or came to know garters. That's really cool!

I'm anxious to see them and have them. It will be fun to have two different kinds.

I think. I hope...

Oh, lord. I may have just done something horrible! :eek:

I now spend ("waste" to some people :rolleyes: ) so much time watching all the snakes. Comparing P & J, looking at their differences, noticing how different they are in 'personality,' playing with Niizh (Kenabec will be on sabtical for about two months with the breeder) and studying his face and the scales and his marking...

Let's say I spend 1 hour; won't that now increase to two - at least garter watching - because I've double the amount of snakes to watch?

Oh lord in heaven! I'm gonna be be one happy camper for sure!!! :D

I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[count dewclaw]

Even my husband (who is not really an animal person - he tolerates my pets) admitted that the pugets were a very pretty snake...he even said he liked them!

[Garter_Gertie]

Gosh. This is alot of talk about how nice looking these snakes are. I've seen pictures and thought how pretty, but this is something to read all these words. I guess/think what I mean is that maybe I'm not aware of what I'm actually getting - that I may be amazed when I see them.

I mean, I know they're pretty but maybe I don't know just how stunning Pugets are. If that's the case, this going to be even more funnier!!!!

[Hornets23]

Congrats on the pugets gertie...that is something i would like to get eventually too.

[Garter_Gertie]

Thanks, Crista! Good for you! I'll be happy when you get them.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

:)you could have gone with Azul!

it means blue en espanol!!

hahaha, congrats gertie

[Garter_Gertie]

Thanks, Shannon. But Azul's already been taken one, maybe twice!

[Garter_Gertie]

Besides 'Azul' haven been taken one to two times...

Other than 'Rockster, I felt it best to give my boys Inuit names since they're coming from Alaska.

Gods bless the humaniod 'Rockster for beating me to Googledom and finding the two most perfect names!

These, to me, are very special snakes. Garters are the only snakes that live in AK. While these babies technically aren't from AK, being from the environs o'Puget Sound (I don't *think* that's all that near to AK...), they're coming from AK.

And to me that means they're AK snigglettes and are Specialer! :)

Oh! Please understand, all of you! PLEASE! I'm not demeaning any garters from the lower 48 states! NOT AT ALL!

I'm just tying in my new kids to the fact only garters live in AK. That's all. I hope you understand.

All garter kids are special. I hope you understand what I mean!





:)you could have gone with Azul!

it means blue en espanol!!

hahaha, congrats gertie

[jitami]

Garters are the only snakes that live in AK.


That's a cool little tidbit that I didn't know :)

[GartersRock]

Besides 'Azul' haven been taken one to two times...

Other than 'Rockster, I felt it best to give my boys Inuit names since they're coming from Alaska.

Gods bless the humaniod 'Rockster for beating me to Googledom and finding the two most perfect names!

These, to me, are very special snakes. Garters are the only snakes that live in AK. While these babies technically aren't from AK, being from the environs o'Puget Sound (I don't *think* that's all that near to AK...), they're coming from AK.

And to me that means they're AK snigglettes and are Specialer! :)

Oh! Please understand, all of you! PLEASE! I'm not demeaning any garters from the lower 48 states! NOT AT ALL!

I'm just tying in my new kids to the fact only garters live in AK. That's all. I hope you understand.

All garter kids are special. I hope you understand what I mean!

I is a humanoid. :D:p

And our AK pugets have been feeding on wc salmon and caribou. :p:cool:

[Garter_Gertie]

Oh, crap. I thought Rick said they were feeding on f/t!!!!

Where am I going to get caribou down here (though prolly easier for me than you... LOL!!!)????????????

I'm pretty sure he said they were on f/t. Mine are yearlings. Yours, 'Ster?

[GartersRock]

Oh they eat f/t too! lol! Sorry to scare you. Mine are big adults. But yeah. He just fed them everything. And they eat everything. Mine get whatever including yesterday they got chopped up f/t medium rat. Cause thats what I had at the moment. lol

[Garter_Gertie]

COOLER! I had some kind'a boxed mac and jeez stuff tonite for dinner - lots o'left overs.

Glad to learn my kids will eat anything! LOL!!!

Note to self: Get more salmon, try some stir-fry beef, store up the f/t pinkies...

COOL!!!!!!!!! SNAKES I CAN COOK FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GartersRock]

Lolololol!!!!!! :D
I have actually fed my snakes raw chicken in a pinch. ;) lol

[Garter_Gertie]

I've inadvertantly tried to breast feed MY snakes!

That sure has h&!! beats your chicken!

[GartersRock]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You made me spill my drink!! lol!

[Garter_Gertie]

Yuppers. I think I learned that here. Somewhere anyway! :D

Gotta find out xactly what kind'a garters those them there are and see if I can get me a CBB one. Yeah. Furshure.




That's a cool little tidbit that I didn't know :)

[Garter_Gertie]

If id didn't come out your nose, it wasn't funny enuff!

[Garter_Gertie]

I guess I'm still not allowed access yet, but I was able to get a pic up of the Pugets when they were just babies earlier this summer. I think it's them; could be another litter.

So here's the link:

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/DSC06969.JPG

[Garter_Gertie]

HO! I pasted the link and it came up a pic! And I never got "Allow Access"!!!

I did my first photo!

[olive oil]

You go Gertie!!!!! I have the hardest time trying to post pics and you just did it without even trying. Pretty snakes.

[jitami]

Great job mk :) Pretty babies, too!

[Garter_Gertie]

Olive, no. You know not of what you speak. LOL!!! I spent 1/2 hour at work fiddling around and trying to figure things out. Then time to go home, which I did and it took ANOTHER 1/2 hour to actually get the pic where you now see it.

Truth be told, it was like my 5th or 6th time! LOL!!!

Thanks, Tammers. Rick says they're way darker now (and yes, this is my babies' litter pic when wee ones, I double checked). And I don't know about the orange-ish kind'a striped ones???????? But pics here come out so goofy sometimes. Folks are always saying "But s/he doesn't look ANYTHING like that and the picture doesn't do him/her justice." So, who knows?

They're heads are different than what I'm used to. More slender and less broad at the back? Is that it?

I sent my FINAL payment off to Rick today. So next week, week after that my kids should be here! I need to start doing the pg feathering my nest and doing the nursery-thingy.

Now I need to start sending payments for the snake I bought for Dave (the naturalist at the park I work at), Carmello or Carmella II depending on sex. He's ALWAYS wanted an Eastern Milk snake and damn if I didn't GO WEEKS and FOREVER before I realized there were possible ones right under my nose!

Carmello/a II will live here with me as we don't have room at the park - and Dave's not sure we actually HAVE them in the park though they are native MN snakes. And I'll take Carmello/a II to work with me and happily turn him/her over to 'Dad' and let him have the honors during the snake presentation. See, I do Winnie, the garter. She's MY baby. But I want Dave to be happy and have HIS baby and show him/her to the public.

He is SO HAPPY AND SO EXCITED and I'm thrilled I am able to give this to the man who has mentored and taught me so much, and puts up with me and my ideas. He is a very dear, dear friend and I'm THRILLED I can do this for him!

And, again - like with him selling me my VERY FIRST EVER (you only ever have one 'first ever') garters, Peepers and Jeepers - it is to our own Snake Whisperer I give thanks. With out Dekay, I wouldn't be able to do this for Dave. Honest. I'd been looking around for an Eastern Milk (CB) for MONTHS.

THANKS, DEKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh! I guess I got off on a tanget there, didn't I? WHOOPS!

[Garter_Gertie]

'Rockster, Kunikpok and Tungortok are being shipped MONDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GartersRock]

WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am SOOOOO excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D So Tuesday?? I should make sure I log on. :D

[Garter_Gertie]

'Rockster, thass what I'm thinking! I've e-mailed Rick and have asked him to confirm so I can take off work... But I don't know if he's going to get it before Monday - is college address!

I'm antsy and have to pee alot... I'm already pacing. I'm scared I won't be able to care for them - I've Peepers and Jeepers to worry about, not to mention Niizh...

I'm so scared I'm not up to them, their addition, their wants and needs...

BUT I CAN'T WAIT TO KISS AND HUG AND HOLD THEM!!!!

Rick says 'Rockster hasn't flipped-tail in like a month. Not that *I* care, but it would be good for 'Rockster. Also, Rick is worried he won't be able to figure out which snigglette IS 'Rockster and is worried he'll pick the wrong one - now that s/he's not flipping - and someone else will get him/her thinking it's an okay snake.

So that worries me, too. That I make sure I get 'Rockster - for him/her's sake as well as Rick's.

Then there's the just NORMAL mk WORRY OUT HER BUTT. Cry me a river! I wish I could pick them all up.

You are a love. Thank you so much for your 'fiendship,' care and love. And your interest in me and my kids.

Gods. Will I make it to Tuesday??????????????????????????

[Cazador]

They're on their way, MK, and one just shed yesterday!!! Look for them to arrive on Wednesday ;).

Rick

[Stefan-A]

Look, Rick! It's that guy you are! :D

Whatcha been doing? :)

[GartersRock]

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol :D

[Stefan-A]

And like that.. he's gone. :rolleyes:

[jitami]

LOL... did we actually have 3 moderators here all at the same time for a second or two today??? :D Love ya all... thanks for all of the behind the scenes work you do to keep this such a lovely place :)

Gertie, I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited for you!!! Two more sleeps! :D

[Garter_Gertie]

They're on their way, MK, and one just shed yesterday!!! Look for them to arrive on Wednesday ;).

Rick


THANKS, Rick! I'm planning on being home that day!

Thank you so very very very much for putting up with my payments. Thank you for your kindness and understanding and willingness to work with someone that's pretty much for all intents and purposes still a newbie.

And most of all, THANK YOU FOR MY KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Garter_Gertie]

Thank you ladies! I'm pretty pumped! And GUESS WHAT????????!!!! 'Rockster is a MALE, too, so he can stay with Kunikpok and Tungortok and Peepers and Jeepers and not have to live alone as a fem! YEAH!!!!!!!! And Rick says it's been quite awhile since 'Rockster flipped his tail. So maybe he will out grow it or maybe he's just kind'a neurotic and nervous.

Yeah... Two more sleeps. Shure wish Rick lived in WI...

[GartersRock]

Great news!!!!!!!! I can't wait. :D

[Garter_Gertie]

One.... More..... Sleep....

[GartersRock]

I... can't.... wait............................. You SOO need a camera. :(

[Garter_Gertie]

I was looking at them and had I not gotten the Pugets, I'd have gotten a camera. I can get what I think is a good one for like $120-$150 or so. I'm getting much closer to having a camera! :D

Then it will be ketchup for sure!

[GartersRock]

:D:D:D:D:D:D:................... Yay!

[Garter_Gertie]

No more wake ups. Nope. This is it. I'm about to puke.

[Lori P]

ROFL-- deeeeeeeeep breaths, deeeeeeeeep breaths.... go to your happy place....

OMG-- I told Jamie to go to his happy place the other day and without missing a beat, he said: "You mean my wife's funeral?" LOLOLOLOL He is SUCH a ****!!!

Anyhoo--- can't wait to hear they're safe and sound and all settled in for you!!

[Garter_Gertie]

I like Jamie - his sense o'humor at least, his quickness of wit. BUT.... Never evoke the gods!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ish.

I'm shaking - which is not due to us having no heat here, the boiler died and they need to replace it; long story... - because I'm so nervous.

The weather here turned and the heat packs won't last 48 hours. Things should be okay since they'll be indoors most of the time. And it's above freezing - was 48 at 5:00 AM so WAY WARMER than the night before when it got down to 30.

It is raning. But is supposed to get up into the 60s today, but won't have the sun o'the past two days.

So, they'll prolly be sleepy, but otay...

Then there's just the xcitement of not believing this is happening to me. And knowing I'm going to have three new babies that will have different personalities still than P & J and Niizh. I'm really curious to see and watch these guys after 'talking' to Rick, you and 'Rockster.

I hope they bring P & J outta their 'shells' when I put them together; though Jeeps is really coming along, is out more, doesn't run when I open the tank or walk up to it, and only tries to get away when I touch him. So I've started just petting in the tank and not taking out so he'll 'learn' touching doesn't mean leaving the tank.

Poor Peepers is just neurotic and a scaredy-cat and that's that. I only bug him when I take him out to feed him. Usually... LOL!!! Sometimes I take him out to just kiss him before putting him back in... I'M SO MEAN!!! Yesterday he ate all but TWO pieces OF TWO ENTIRE EARTHWORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Biggest meal yet for the silly guy.

If 'Rockster, Kunikpok and Tungortok arrive sleepy and sluggish, I've been given instructions on what to do. Since they've been eating caribou... I'm thinking about getting stew meat...???????????? And, of course, will bulk up on pinkies and will look for whole, real fish - what I have is fillets.

I'M SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[count dewclaw]

I'm excited for you! Pugets are just so pretty. Can't wait to see pictures of the new kids.

[Garter_Gertie]

Dew-LeAnn... I don't have a camera. Yet. Will be awhile for pics o'The Boyz. ;(

Someday. "Someday my prints will come!"

LOL!!!

[count dewclaw]

Oops! Sorry I forgot...I'll try to wait patiently for your "prints" to come!:D Can't wait to hear all about the little beauties!

[Garter_Gertie]

Yeah. I gotta be the last dinasour left on the plant. Oh, well! LOL! (shrugs shoulders)

It was never important to me until I got Peeps and Jeeps. Yeah, I'd have liked to post pics o'the Pigglettes (my Pugs, Pickles and Mayo), but it wasn't as driving as being here where we share so much and pictures allow us all to be with each other.

I hate I don't have one, but I will. And I'll reciprocate with all o'you and share me and mine as you have shared with me.

[Garter_Gertie]

Holy **** Holy **** Holy Shsit Howly ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Longer'un Hell And Blue/tourquise/bluishgreen And Long Long Long Long Lon~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Holy Hell Holw Hell

My Gods~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These Guys Are Stunning, Their Eyes, Theyr Colour, Their Length. Ohg My Gods!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Anc't Belive This!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh **** **** Shti~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gesus! They're Mine! Gods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cold, But Awake. Chilly Beanies! F'me!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've Never Seen Blue/blue-green/tourquise Like This!!! Are Thse Snakes Aor Jewelws/?????????????????????????????

Rick, 'ster////////////////////////// Thant You Thank You Bytnak You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Garter_Gertie]

Oh my gods, oh my gods, oh my gods, oh my gods, oh my gods....

Thse look NOTHING like any picture I've seen o'Pugets? Did I get some radiated form?

HOLEY ****ING ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I was NOT PREPARED for these guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**** PIISS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

otay. Any minute I'm gonna wake up and this is gonna be a dream. I DON'T WANNA WAKE UP!

[Stefan-A]

Calm down and post some pictures, Gertie. :D

[Garter_Gertie]

Stefan, love... I CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don'ts gotta camera!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

But I'll be getting one, hopefully sooner than later, and will ketchup.

Hugs to you for your interest in my Boys. I appreciate !

[Garter_Gertie]

Cold as they were, they're alert and UP AT THE FRONT O'THE TANK! I've NO IDEA who is who, but there is one that's smaller than the other two and I guess I'll call him 'Rockster. Rick said they're all males. Praise the gods!

For having just come 48 hours from ALASKA, these guys are SO ****ING MELLOW!!!! They're oot and aboot, checking ME out!

The blue glows as does the black on all. I've no idea which o'the three shed. They're all shiney and curious and scopin'!!!!!!!!!!!

'Ster, WHERE ARE YOU? Does this sound like the ones you got? Glowy?

Christ! If you got yours before me, I can ONLY guess how STUNNING yours are since I was lower on the totem pole than YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ITTIZ ALL I CAN DO TO LEAVE THEM ALONE AND NOT EAT THEM ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy ****. I cannot believe my good luck. What stunning animals.

[Garter_Gertie]

Oh. The picture of Rick's snakes, the babies?, that I posted. Ignore it. Dirty, non-blue, icky snakes. NOTHING like what they really look like.

Did this happen to me?

I need a nap.

[Aundrea]

awwwwwwwwwwwwww im so HAPPY for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant wait to see pics. Damn I hope to own a Puget someday:rolleyes: Or a Fl blue :rolleyes: I just want a damn blue garter LOL :eek::D

[Snake lover 3-25]

awwwww congrats:D they sound adorable:D PICS!!!!!!!!:D:eek:

[jitami]

Congrats gertie... enjoy your little blue babies :)

[count dewclaw]

Congrats!!

[GartersRock]

DANG IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I missed it!!!!!!!!! *cries, cries* CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whoohoo!!!!! I am so glad they turned out better then expected and that you love them and love them and are so excited!! Aren't they like, AWESOME AMAZING GORGEOUS LITTLE GUYS!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, mine glow and are velvety and shiney and blue and black and wonderful!!!!!!! They just GLOW is right! I am so excited for you Gertie. :D Oh and did no one tell you they are the most unafraid, curious, inquisitive garters there are? Isn't it amazing!! They are all over the place!! :D:D I am so happy you are happy! Enjoy your black and blue velvet glowing beauties!!!! :D

[Garter_Gertie]

Oh, thank you everyone! These guys are so different than I've ever had! Not that I've had a bazillion garters/snakes, but SO DIFFERENT!

One o'The Boys was up on a log, hangin' out, at the front of the tank - so pretty! And I knocked on the tank and NOTHING. Knocked harder - NOTHING. Not even a tongue flick. KNOCKED ON THE GLASS REALLY REALLY HARD and NOTHING! I freaked, fumbled getting the tank lid off and reached in with a finger to get my dead baby... And off he slithered! Weird! LOL!!!

As I type, the front-tank one went to hide out and two are in the 'sauna.' The 10g will not be the best home for them and I'll be glad when I can move them into the 29g. They're REALLY long. Rick says in their second year they'll add about one more foot (!!!YIKES!!!) and will fill out. These guys are really really long! WAY longer than Winnie at the park, the longest garter I know.

This all feels surreal. It's gonna take some time getting used to. I never imagined I'd have Peepers and Jeepers let alone three BLUE snakes! I wish I could shrink myself down and get in the tank(s) with them.

[Garter_Gertie]

'Rockster is the smallest o'the three. About the size o'Jeepers head-wise and around-wise, but AT LEAST double the length.

Kunikpok, "Kisses," has a teeny-tiny white spot smack dab in the middle of the back o'his head. He's been 'kissed'! :) Lettuce hope his kiss stays, for identification porpoises.

Tungortok is the largest head-wise, around-wise, length-wise.

Bet in adulthood I'll not be able to tell any o'them a part! LOL!!!

I've just been sitting here, watching Niizh, then into the living room to watch Peeps and Jeeps; well, Jeeps anyway.

Then back in here to The Blues Brothers (EEEEKKKK! DON'T CHA'LOVE IT????!!!) tank to watch them.

They're all so different - so just themselves. What fascinating creatures to have/have as a hobby! I just love the world! There is SO MUCH to learn about! I'm really glad I learned about snigglettes.

And I thank Dekay, 'Rockster and Rick for all the help you guys have given me and the kids you've passed into my care. Oh! And Jodi, my Hoggy breeder, too!

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cazador]

Good times, MK :). I wish I had more time to be as active as I once was, but sadly, I don't.

I love how excited you are about your new snakes, MK, and your enthusiasm tells me you'll be a great owner for these guys!!! They really are special snakes! They're easily handled, and aren't the least bit skittish. If there's any drawback to these snakes, it's that they are voracious eaters. They've never bitten me, or even struck at me, but they have bitten each other, especially when fish is on the menu, so keep an eye on them. Other than that, you'll love them, and I'm sure they'll be eating out of your hand in no time. Cheers !!!

Finally, a big hello to all of my friends on the forum. Best regards,
Rick

[Hornets23]

Gertie, i have to tell you...youre making me want a puget...more than i already did. Glad youre so happy with them!

[Garter_Gertie]

Hay, Rick! THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Christa, thanks! These are way different in 'personality' than Peeps & Jeeps, and Niizh. They stay their ground and do a stare-down. Currently, they're slowling pulling in their heads when I wiggle my finger - and they're awake. But they don't run... They're kind'a sneaky and like ssssllllloooooollllllyyyyy with draw head - pause - and sssslllllooooooowwwwwwllllllyyyyy crawl in the opposite direction. Very nonchalant.

They don't seem to flick their tongues as often. But, maybe they're still chilled/off from the trip. They sure don't seem to NEED and settling in! LOL!!! They're comfy looking under the white light, on the heat pad.

I picked one up yesterday and only thing it did was quietly musk on me. Settled down fairly quickly in my hand.

The red on their tongue is not red-red, but a darker maroon-blood red. You can hardly see the difference from the black.

Peepers and Jeepers like to burrow under plant pots, substrate. These guys don't seem - yet - to like to burrow. But rather hide under something that's raised a bit off the substrate so that they're under something, but not like under ground.

And they stick pretty much together in one place, mostly, like one snake with three heads! P & J tend to go their own ways and rarely are together, unless to snuggle up under something.

[olive oil]

Gertie, can't wait to hear more about "The Blues Brothers". I have been thinking about one myself.They are beautiful! Wish I could see some pic's.

[Garter_Gertie]

Zoe, check this month's picture contest. Shannon has her Puget climbing in some marigolds.

And as soon as folks read this, I'm sure they'll post pics here.

[olive oil]

Oh I know. I love that picture!!!!

[olive oil]

I meant I wish I could see yours. I can't wait until you get your camera!

[Garter_Gertie]

I'm home as they're pulling the old boiler today. HOPEFULLY I will have heat - that I've been w/o since Sunday - come tomorrow nite... Pulling old boiler today, new one goes in tomorrow.

So. I held 'Rockster and tried to feed him fish. Fineally he took a piece and I let him down to swollow it. Nah. He spit it out and I put him back in the tank.

Then I held Tungortok and tried to hand feed him. He, like 'Rockster, took a piece and tried to run off with it. When I wouldn't let him, he spit it out.

So, I put Kunikpok in The Feeder Plastic Thingy with fish and the guy fatted out!!! Put Tungortok in and he ate some too! 'Rockster is in there now and we'll see what happens.

NOT BAD FOR DAY TWO!!!

[Garter_Gertie]

w00t!!!!!!!!!!

All three o'The Blues Brothers ate some fish! Bellies not as big as I'd like, but what the hay!

Day Two and they all ate. yeah!

[GartersRock]

:D Glad to hear it!!! Mine ate next day too! They stuffed their faces w/tilapia. LOL

[Garter_Gertie]

I had talapia and salmon. They ate, but... well it WAS fillet o'fish, not like whole.

So they ate and I R happy!

'Ster, do yours change color, depending on what light they're in and the way the light hits them? Sometimes my are almost green or turquoise. It's weird.

[Garter_Gertie]

I had to switch Tungortok and 'Rockster's names. Found a lump on the tippy-top of [who was Tungortok] 'Rockster's spine, pretty close to the tail area.

With no solid education to back me, but just trying to figure things out, I'm thinking as a baby 'Rockster had some injury - mushed vertebrae, broken vertebrae (w/o injuring the spinal column), brusied vertebrae and it calcified when healing.

He's not flip-tailed since arriving and seems to be as good as new. Poor guy's prolly gonna get arthritis as he gets older.

[adamanteus]

Finally, a big hello to all of my friends on the forum. Best regards,
Rick

I missed your post until now, Rick. Good to see you online.... wish it could be more often. Keep in touch.

[Garter_Gertie]

Hehehehe! :)

I now know which o'The Blues Brothers shed the day before shipping. It was Kunikpok! Because 'Rockster and Tungortok have eyes as blue as their stripes!

YUP! They them there Boys are gonna shed!

[olive oil]

Olives are blue also. I'm kinda nervous for some reason. Guess I'm just a shed virgin. Hope it all goes well. Is there anything I should be doing for her?

[adamanteus]

Is there anything I should be doing for her?

Just leave her in peace, Zoe, she'll do the rest.:)

[Snake lover 3-25]

not really..... if the cage is really dry you may want a shed box...... but mine shed perfectly every time without one.........

[olive oil]

Well, thats why I was wondering about the humidity level. I made a little cave out of an old tupperware bowl and filled it with damp moss. I don't think she has went in though. She is staying out of sight tonight.

[olive oil]

What should the temp be in her tank?

[Garter_Gertie]

Your cave is just fine. Normal temps.

Sweetiepie, this is going to be far less stressful for Olive than Muzzer. You're doing fine. Listen to James. Just leaver her alone.

If push comes to shove and you need to help her with her shed, you'll know that when it's all over by looking at her shed and at Olive.

In the meantime, it will be a few days before she sheds and you have been the PERFECT MOTHER and done EVERYTHING RIGHT!!!

:)

ps Don't bother to feed her until after she sheds. The majority of garters don't eat during this time.

But AFTER, she should be pretty hungry!

[adamanteus]

Wise words, Gertie.:)

[olive oil]

Thanks guys. I'll just leave her be. Still can't help to be nervous. I guess it's the eye cap thing that worries me the most.

[Garter_Gertie]

Wise words, Gertie.:)

THUNK (<---- sound of mk falling outta computer chair in blissful state of euphoria)

James, thank you dear. Very nice of you to notice and comment positively.

But... prolly only due to "Listen to James."

ROFLOLPMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Garter_Gertie]

Zoe, you and Olive will be fine. There is nothing to worry about until after - and THEN it's not a "worry."

If the eye caps don't come off, you'll know by looking at the shed. And should that happen - never happened to me yet (and I doubt will to you with your 'sauna') - there are at least a dozen folks here that can help you with that. And it's not a major deal or worry.

You and Olive will do just FINE!

hugs,

mk

[olive oil]

Thanks for the encouragement. Can't wait till it's over and I'm thinking gosh why did I worry so much. lol

[Garter_Gertie]

You're welcome, dear. You're cute, Zoe. Very cute.

And a damn good 'rent (parent)!

[Garter_Gertie]

Hehehehehe! The littlest Blues Brother... Tungortok, just scarfed down a whole f/t pinkie! YES!

WILL HE GO BACK FOR #2? Stay tuned! :)

'Rockster and Kunikpok snoozed through it all, being blind and what have you. They ate their fill before their eyes clouded over.

HE'S GOING FOR PINKIE #2 AS I WRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, lord. What's gonna happen?

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol :D :D :D

[Garter_Gertie]

HE SNARFED THE SECOND PINKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the FIRST TIME EVER I've had a snake take TWO PINKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was actually hovering and hovering and hovering at the large plastic lid - I don't want them to eat substrate... - and HOVERING. I think he wanted more but *I*, the Muzzer, decided to err on the side of go a little hungry rather than him eat too much; this was the biggest meal the little guy has eaten since he got here. Don't want to "Bob Evans" him... Not at this time o'year.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So NEAT!!!!

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol CONGRATS!!!!!:D:D:D

[Garter_Gertie]

I love these guys. They are so IN YOUR FACE, like "Yeah, and what are you gonna do about it? They stare you down, "So? Who's gonna move first?"

They're, as the non PC expression goes "got balls." They're ballsy snakes! THEY ARE! They're so "I BEG your pardon! This is MY tank and so off with you!"

Their looks say, "And your point is?" REALLY!!!!!!!!!!! It's like "I may be captive, but you've not captured my spirit." REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol that's how this little dekay i have is.... but when you don't leave he strikes...... and bites.....:(

[jitami]

Too funny Gertie :) That's how my little guys are, too... Frick cruises around and could care less what's going on outside of the tank most of the time and Frack just stares at me, like, "What chu lookin at?"

[Garter_Gertie]

Such a 'tude these guys have! It is so funny!

[GartersRock]

Aren't the so much FUN!! :D:D:D

[Lori P]

HE SNARFED THE SECOND PINKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the FIRST TIME EVER I've had a snake take TWO PINKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was actually hovering and hovering and hovering at the large plastic lid - I don't want them to eat substrate... - and HOVERING. I think he wanted more but *I*, the Muzzer, decided to err on the side of go a little hungry rather than him eat too much; this was the biggest meal the little guy has eaten since he got here. Don't want to "Bob Evans" him... Not at this time o'year.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So NEAT!!!!

ROFL!!! Hey-- he's a growing boy-- you let him eat!!! (Don't listen, Bob, she didn't mean anything by it!!) LOL

[kurtnagel]

HE SNARFED THE SECOND PINKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the FIRST TIME EVER I've had a snake take TWO PINKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was actually hovering and hovering and hovering at the large plastic lid - I don't want them to eat substrate... - and HOVERING. I think he wanted more but *I*, the Muzzer, decided to err on the side of go a little hungry rather than him eat too much; this was the biggest meal the little guy has eaten since he got here. Don't want to "Bob Evans" him... Not at this time o'year.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So NEAT!!!!

Yeah! My baby puget Agua ate a whole pinky tonight (sliced lengthwise) and then went back to the bowl sniffing for more!

[Garter_Gertie]

My smallest, Tungortok, is the pickiest of the three. 'Rockster or Kunikpok - I wasn't paying attention - ate another pinky last nite! And he's gettng ready to shed!

Rick said these guys had voracious appetites but I was skeptial from prior experience. HOLY BUCKETS! These guys live to eat!

[olive oil]

Hey Gertie, Olive shed. All went fine. "SHOOO"

[Garter_Gertie]

HURRAY for Olive and Muzzer! Olive, tell your muzzer you're a big girl and she's a worrywart and then give her a big kiss.

It usual does, Zoe. More often than it doesn't. Particularly if you have optimum conditions for your snigglettes to take advantage of.

Glad it went well and you can relax. Isn't Olive SO PRETTY now?

[olive oil]

I found her shed yesterday, and haven't seen her yet. I don't know why she is hiding. I'm getting ready to dig around in her bedding, I can't wait to see her!

[Garter_Gertie]

Hehehehehehe! Came back from getting my antique, slate-bottomed (Dekay and Sid, the metal's kind'a rough and rusted in places. Not that I have time now, but is there anything I can do to pretty it up? What about that jelly stuff?) tank to find a SHED in the Puget's tank!

And the third one has BLUE eyes! So that means the one that shed just before coming here is getting ready to shed again!

I hope to shout! That bad boy's about to eat me outta house and home. Niizh could CERTAINLY take lessons from him.

[kbear]

Wow, I read this thread from beginning to end, straight through, on the edge of my seat! Lol. Congratulations, Gertie!

And borrow a camera, for goodness sakes! I wanna see!!!!

~Kristen

[Garter_Gertie]

Ooooooohhhhhhhhh... 'Bear, you sweetie! Glad you liked my 'book'!

I've thought of the camera-borrow idea... But... everyone I know doesn't want to part with them. Though, maybe, I could get Mom (she's not my mom, long story) over here with her phone... I don't know.

And even if I did put up pictures, honest to gods it wouldn't do them justice - I found THAT out! When they shed, they're blue-green-aqua blue and shimmer, shimmer, shimmer.

Thanks for hangin' out with me in this thread! :)

[kbear]

Ahh... well, phone's usually take pretty bad pics. And yeah, the colors would be washed out, but hey, we'd still get to see their faces! :)

[kbear]

Thanks guys. I'll just leave her be. Still can't help to be nervous. I guess it's the eye cap thing that worries me the most.

I've never had snakes until the garter I have now (always wanted them, always loved them, but I still live at home and my mom is afraid of them) and the first time my snake started getting cloudy eyes I freaked!:D I was very relieved when I finally figured out what was going on...

[olive oil]

I knew she was going to shed when her eyes turned, but I kinda freaked out when they cleared up and there was no shed. Then, the next day there it was. I'm glad I know how it works now!

[Garter_Gertie]

Isn't that SO WEIRD, ladies? How they clear up after getting cloudy?

The cloudy - from what I've learned - is some kind'a moisty stuff that's lubricating so the eye skin come off. But why it goes away and the eyes clear, I'm totally clueless and in the dark.

Winnie, a Common Eastern Garter - from the north, at the park... Her eyes don't get blue but get white. Weird.

[Garter_Gertie]

Zoey... It doesn't always happen the day after. Like some time, depending on species (and prolly circumstances) it can happen as long as a week later. It was a day, two, three - I didn't count - with my Blues Boy.

Winne, the garter at the park, it seems to go a week. As does Ripley, the bull snake there.

Go figure.

Just wanted you to know so that if next time it's more than one day you're not giving yourself and ulcer.

[olive oil]

Thanks Gertie!!! You know I would freak out all over again. Glad to know that.:D

[Garter_Gertie]

Yeah, Sweetie... Thass what I thought and why I mentioned it. :)

Once you get your first year under your belt, I think you'll be much less nervous.

It's hard not knowing and caring so much. Wanting to do what's right and the best and afraid of the unknow/unexperienced. Is this normal? Did I do somthing wrong? Is my baby okay? What should I do?

You're doing fine, Zoey; you're doing fine.

[Garter_Gertie]

I woke yesterday to a second shed in the Puget tank. Heheheheh!

And last nite laying on the couch watching TV, I was able to watch Peepers or Jeepers out skulking and inspecting the entire tank.

Was a good day.

[jitami]

I'm waiting on a shed any day now too :) Frack was blue on Saturday, then clear yesterday... Frick is looking dull, but no cloudy eyes that I've seen :) Really love these growing boys!!!

[Garter_Gertie]

Well. I learned a lesson tonite. Those snigglettes that eat a lot, poopy a lot! LOL!

Did quite a bit of spot pick-up in The Blues Brothers' tank and will HAVE to do major cleaning this weekend! We got tinckle dust all over the place!

And, just like Rick said, these guys CANNOT be left alone with fish. They beat the tar outta each other! Tug-o-wars BIG time! Bite the food, bite the head, go for the neck... They're not nice brothers! LOL!!!

And they STUFF themselves! I mean STUFF! But then squiggle it way farther down than any snake I've ever seen. To the point where they look boa-like - skinny up near head/neck and AS BIG AS MY THUMB way farther down. VERY weird looking and not what I'm used to.

[anji1971]

Gertie,
I just realised that in my absence, you've managed to acquire a hell of a lot of snakes.
Way to go, girl! Pretty good for someone who claimed to be ascared of 'em for so long.:D

[Garter_Gertie]

So nice to have you back, Anj. I so missed your humor and chattiness.

Thank you very much! I have come'a ways. It is fun to look back to those days when I wouldn't even go near Ripley. Now I live to come home to pester and feed snakes!

[Garter_Gertie]

Zoe, no. I need to work on the new tank.

'Ster... 'Rockster is a HUGE, BIG MO'FO and eating me outta HOUSE AND HOME!!!

He is a good boy and calm, but wiggley, when I pick him up. He's a sweet boy.

[GartersRock]

LOL! That's my boy!! ;)