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ssssnakeluvr
09-05-2008, 03:13 PM
my baby butler's are doing well....here they are in a little feeding frenzy... :D

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/frenzy_1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/frenzy_2.jpg

yes, the one that is biting the other did let go...I made sure of that!!!!

gregmonsta
09-05-2008, 03:17 PM
Rofl :D pandamonium. Hungry little monsters!!!

Aundrea
09-05-2008, 03:27 PM
awwww they are cute.. Boy they sure are HUNGRY LOL

I just couldnt cut up pinkies.. I would freak out and probably faint LOL

reptile3
09-05-2008, 03:27 PM
are those worms & pinky parts??

That is funny, that one snake is taking a bite on the other snake!! My iguana was trying to be mean, so instead of bitting me, he got his own tail!! He didn't hurt himself, but it was funny!!!

ssssnakeluvr
09-05-2008, 03:47 PM
yes, worms and pinky legs. i cut off legs of frozen/thawed pinky rats...good for smaller snakes that cant take pinkies

jitami
09-05-2008, 04:44 PM
Cute little monsters :)

anji1971
09-05-2008, 06:36 PM
Too cute! The babies always get so darned excited at meal time!:D

jitami
09-05-2008, 08:09 PM
Ok, I've been wondering about this all afternoon... so the babies biting each other is no big deal as long as no one eats anyone else?

ssssnakeluvr
09-05-2008, 09:24 PM
no damage done....the one getting bitten moved and the other let go.

GartersRock
09-05-2008, 10:17 PM
That second pic is CUTE!!

jitami
09-06-2008, 08:39 AM
Thanks Don... I wasn't questioning your judgment or anything like that, just learning as I go here :) When I was feeding the boys together I was a bit paranoid that one would take a bite out of the other. Now I'm wondering if it's really not that big of a deal as long as they're watched closely to make sure they let go. It may even be good for them to realize that their cage mate is not food from an early age. So, if they don't let go, then what? How hard is it to separate them? I'm guessing not very hard, but how's it done so as not to hurt either?

Thanks!!! Always learning :)

Garter_Gertie
09-06-2008, 10:06 AM
I'm looking forward to the answer. Not in a "GOTCHA!" way, but in I need to know for my own education.

I know when Peeps bites me, I just have to let him. Well, even if Kenabec and Niizh did, too. Because you can't pull them off as you can pull out teeth, damage teeth, etc., and then they can/could get mouth rot.

So, I'm thinking... I'd just have to watch if a snakey bit a snakey and as soon as the one let go, seperate them? I mean, you couldn't pull it off the other, could you? That's the same as pulling it off one's self. Right?

So, what do you do?

GartersRock
09-06-2008, 10:43 AM
Well I just carefully "pull them off" by pushing the head gently forward. Thats the key. Their teeth are aimed backwards. I have never had problems doing this the teeth just slide out. Just go slow at first to figure out the angle and you should figure it out. ;)

You really should gently pull snakes apart because you never know when they might procede to continue to eat the other and the further they go the harder it will be to pull them apart in the end and risk even more injury to both snakes.

Garter_Gertie
09-06-2008, 10:49 AM
Ah, HAH! A light bulb moment! Makes sense. The going forward - and REALLY makes sense about not waiting too long. At least with the biting of other snakes.

With me, I let him have his pleasure, the booger. I can't feel it and a blow (poof of air, NOT a HIT!) in the face or water on him gets him off. I'd rather do this with me over running the risk of hurting Peepers in anyway. Like I said, different with another snake involved.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GartersRock
09-06-2008, 10:51 AM
;) Cool!

Yes, I just let all my babies bite me and so far that has helped them to realize it doesn't help their cause. I don't care. But I think they enjoy it while it lasts! :D

jitami
09-06-2008, 10:54 AM
Thanks Amanda...I understand the concept and it sounds relatively easy. Is it as easy as it sounds? Just don't panic, push forward to release teeth, then gently pull away?

I truly enjoy feeding the babies by hand, but even with just 2 it takes 45 minutes or so from start to finish. There are times when it would be convenient to feed them together. Another question... Anyone leave live fish in a tank with unattended multiple snakes? When I come across them, maybe every 6 weeks, I buy a dozen or so rosy reds and leave them in sly's dish. I'd love to do this with guppies(assuming I can ever find any) for the babies, but is leaving them unattended with the fish an absolute "No Way"?

Thanks guys!

Garter_Gertie
09-06-2008, 11:08 AM
Ja'Tami!!!!!!!!!! So

jitami
09-06-2008, 11:10 AM
So? No? Gertie?

Garter_Gertie
09-06-2008, 11:11 AM
Ja'Tami!!!!!!!!!! So glad you asked! About the live fish in the tank thingy!

I dumped about six feeder guppies in Peeps and Jeeps 'swimming pool' last weekend and I've still got three left! Fed them yesterday! :)

I've got a mini aquarium in my snake tank!

I never see Peeps and Jeeps. Never. Well, not NEVER. I see Jeeps stick his head out of a hide ever third day or so. I sonly see them when I go in to abuse them by holding them, kissing them, etc.

So far, the guppies in the swimming pool has worked and there has not been WWIII.

jitami
09-06-2008, 11:17 AM
So far, the guppies in the swimming pool has worked and there has not been WWIII.

LOL That's good! I wish I could tell my boys apart. Someday :rolleyes: I have one, at least I think it's the same one, who cruises the tank a couple times a day. Both will come out and get water occasionally. Seeing them both out together is a nice treat :) The one seems barely bothered by my presence, the other scoots off asap if he spots me. I've only had to tear the tank apart once looking for one of them. I was starting to get panic-y, but found him eventually :) OH, something to try! Try misting the enclosure with water. Get everything just a little damp. This brought both of my boys out to check everything out. I'm sure it's some sort of built in feeding response. Give it a shot and let me know what happens :)

Btw, I live in a very hot/dry climate and use a basking lamp. If you're in a more humid area and the substrate/furnishings won't dry out quickly this may not be a good idea...

I've got a little baby snakie out and about right now :)

Garter_Gertie
09-06-2008, 11:19 AM
Oh!

"Peepers! Jeepers! I'm on to yous and gonna squirt you!"

Yust gotta find a squirty-thingy.

OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOT ONE!

BRB

Garter_Gertie
09-06-2008, 11:25 AM
Dangnabit. Squirter didn't work so held fingers over the hole in the bottle and now have a soaked tank - but not too bad and should dry fairly fast - and got clorinated water in with the guppies. :(

So far they're otay.

What an idiot.

ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT YOU! Gotta get a new squirty-thingy.

jitami
09-06-2008, 11:26 AM
Any response from Jeepers & Peepers?

Garter_Gertie
09-06-2008, 11:27 AM
Snot yet. Will check again.

BRB

Garter_Gertie
09-06-2008, 11:28 AM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One, I *think* Peeps, was scopin' out the swimming pool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jitami
09-06-2008, 11:31 AM
Sweet :) Hold very very still, watch, & enjoy :)

Garter_Gertie
09-06-2008, 11:33 AM
Eh. He saw me coming when I last saw him and he's gone like The Schwinn (Muppet Movie).

BUT! I know know how to scare them up without digging for them. THANKS!

Will try with the Hoggies. Doubt I should do more than once a week, huh? With a good working squirty-thingy? Don't want My Boys growing gills and fins and all.

jitami
09-06-2008, 11:41 AM
Yeah, I've only tried it once. Figured I'd save it for when we have company who wants to see them or something. Their tank was a little warm so I misted it to cool it off a little and bam, there they were, little hunting machines :D

GartersRock
09-06-2008, 11:45 AM
Yep! As far as my experience with it goes it's really that easy once you figure out the angles and yes you don't panic. ;)

jitami
09-06-2008, 11:49 AM
Thanks so much Amanda. I worry about things endlessly before they happen, but am great under pressure and never panic. It will be nice to feed them together occasionally. Cool :)

Garter_Gertie
09-06-2008, 11:55 AM
save it for when we have company who wants to see them or something.

Do you know what an oxymoron is? If not, you better look it up 'cuz youse yust posted one, Seester.

Words getting around my work and the list o'folks that have no desire to EVER come over here is growing.

Had I known years ago how to weed out the @$$holes, I'd have gotten snakes a lllloooonnnnnnngggggg time ago!

LOL!

jitami
09-06-2008, 06:52 PM
Haha... you have a point... maybe I should have said I would save the misting thing for people who happen to come over and I cajole into looking at the snakes while they're here :D

Garter_Gertie
09-08-2008, 06:02 AM
Well said! (high-fiving Tami!)

infernalis
09-09-2008, 10:15 AM
I was thinking if I could only train chomper to answer the front door:D

Garter_Gertie
09-09-2008, 12:12 PM
He'd open the door and in his best Lurch voice say, "Yyyyeeeeesssssss?"