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ATNGUY
09-02-2008, 02:50 PM
Greetings to the Thamnophis community!

I have collected some garters with my kids over the past few months, and have been a casual lurker since we caught our first one. I will give you my run down of what we have.....at least based on my identifications.....all were cause within the same small estuary location on Puget Sound in Washington State.

Feel free to point out any observed flaws in my husbandry techniques!

Thamnophis ordinoides:
1 adult female, 1 (I think) born in 2006, 1 born in 2007, 4 born in captivity 10 days ago. (4 live, 1 stillborn, finally witnessed them eating slugs today. We small worms and feeder guppies in water bowl, but they babies are housed with the yearling, so I am not sure if their big cousin was the only one eating) They share the 10 gal. tank with an Alligator lizard, caught in the same area. The lizard, I believe, as a smaller well feed insectivore poses no threat, only company.

Thamnophis elegans:

1 very gravid female, 'Lilly' our largest snake. I counted the 8 Upper labials.

T.s. pickeringii, or other subspecies: Maybe?

1 gravid adult female, 1 adult male, 1 two year old male.
The female has very blue markings.

The male is more pale and patterned, looks like the Blue Stripe pic in the Caresheets

The juvy looks like an Eastern Garter.

They all eat worms, guppies, tadpoles and slugs.

We plan on releasing the most babies back to repopulate the wild.

I will post some pics soon

Andrew

ATNGUY
09-04-2008, 09:47 AM
A fuzzy pic....I will try to post some better ones soon.

Andrew

count dewclaw
09-04-2008, 07:08 PM
Hello and welcome! :D

ssssnakeluvr
09-04-2008, 07:10 PM
welcome to the forum!!!! pics will help with id....the small photo there doesnt help a lot...but looks like one ordinoides, on pickeringi, and looks like a vagrans in there....looking forward to pics!!!! we LOVE pics on here!! :cool:

ATNGUY
09-04-2008, 07:12 PM
Thanks LeAnn.

I have babies being born right now! One out and wiggling.....

ATNGUY
09-04-2008, 07:19 PM
Thanks guys...I will try for some better pics asap. Our female pickeringii is giving birth right now. One healthy one out...much bigger than the ord babies from 8/22.

Just took a few pics, lets see if they look OK. I need to figure out how to take better close ups.

ATNGUY
09-04-2008, 07:26 PM
Thanks Guys,

I have babies happening right now....our pickeringii has one out and counting.

ATNGUY
09-04-2008, 08:11 PM
A new baby, Puget Sound I think.

jitami
09-04-2008, 09:08 PM
Welcome Andrew :)

ssssnakeluvr
09-04-2008, 09:18 PM
A new baby, Puget Sound I think.
looks more like an ordinoides to me....need some clearer pics that arent thumbnails. keep'em coming!! :D

ATNGUY
09-04-2008, 10:10 PM
I will try to get some better pics. I have tried to crop and resize some pics. Might just have to post some elsewhere and link to them. What is the size limit on this site? around 100kb?

ATNGUY
09-04-2008, 10:18 PM
looks more like an ordinoides to me....need some clearer pics that arent thumbnails. keep'em coming!! :D


Don,

Here is one of our ord's....I think....



Andrew

ATNGUY
09-04-2008, 10:25 PM
Another one I am not sure of...Vagrans?

ssssnakeluvr
09-04-2008, 10:45 PM
that one does look like a vagrans

Stefan-A
09-04-2008, 10:57 PM
I'm not so sure about that last one being a vagrans. In fact I'm pretty sure it's not. I think I see a hint of that typical ordinoides postocular stripe.



Oh and welcome aboard. :) I have no idea what the size limit is, but I've posted images around 500k without any problems.

GartersRock
09-05-2008, 11:12 PM
What a nice bunch of snakes!

drache
09-07-2008, 05:34 PM
welcome to the forum, Andrew