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bio6464
08-08-2008, 11:09 AM
I just checked on my mama Dekayi and found this little one hiding in the corner. Hopefully the first of many healthy babies.:D
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/baby_brown.jpg
Compare it to one of my eastern babies from last week...YIKES they're little.:eek:
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/baby_garter.jpg
Jerry

Snake lover 3-25
08-08-2008, 11:14 AM
awwww!!!! congrats!!!!! i hope she has tons:D:D good luck

infernalis
08-08-2008, 11:17 AM
Woo Hoo, Baby Dekayi's:D

Your in for more Jerry, I have midwifed a few of these, and they normally have a dozen or more.

Time to go find some tiny slugs.

bio6464
08-08-2008, 11:19 AM
One more just to show the size...and yes that's a penny. :cool:
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/baby_brown2.jpg
Jerry

Snake lover 3-25
08-08-2008, 11:22 AM
awwwww so cute!!!!!! i wish i could find one..... but i dont have the resources to be able to feed it year round:(

jitami
08-08-2008, 11:25 AM
Oh my goodness Jerry! What a tiny little thing! And cute, too! Keep us posted on momma's progress!

zooplan
08-08-2008, 11:53 AM
Tiny little cutie, or is it tautologous?

crzy_kevo
08-08-2008, 12:01 PM
holy **** i have never seen such a small snake that is incredible

Aundrea
08-08-2008, 12:14 PM
OMG HOW CUTE!!!! Soooooooooooooooooooo tiny!!!! I want my Dekay to have babies LOL but dont know if shes a she and if so she needs a man :D They are both really tiny and cute babies you have there

infernalis
08-08-2008, 12:36 PM
First hand, These babies are very cute, also very delicate, and hard to find food for.

Baby Dekays are hard work. however very rewarding hard work.

Aundrea
08-08-2008, 12:49 PM
How the heck do you feed them babies??? They must eat very very tiny worms? They do seem work but gosh how do them little guys live in the wild?

Sid
08-08-2008, 03:24 PM
Nice little Dekayi, Jerry. Now finding slugs small enough.....
Your work is cut out for you.

infernalis
08-08-2008, 03:53 PM
How the heck do you feed them babies??? They must eat very very tiny worms? They do seem work but gosh how do them little guys live in the wild?

My baby dekayi's were started on tiny baby slugs and "neonate" earthworms.

Baby slugs are about the size of a Small booger, those little tots will consume a large amount of these in short order.

In the wild, the baby snakes will crawl under rocks and debris on the ground looking for these prey items.

One of the main reasons we have such a thick population here is the abundance of slugs, However the mortality rate in the wild is still rather high, hence the large litters.

Birds think of these tiny babies as a tasty treat, Garters will eat them, and even certain insects can devour them:(

Not to mention that all of them may not find sufficient food to flourish.

bio6464
08-08-2008, 07:41 PM
And the wait continues...still only 1 baby. Wayne is it unusual to go 10 hours with no more births?

Snake lover 3-25
08-08-2008, 08:12 PM
hmmmm.... strange.... i hope everything's alright...... :(

infernalis
08-08-2008, 08:18 PM
The whole situation is unusual.

One baby?? hard to comprehend, no stillborn bodies?

Have you sifted the substrate and looked for evidence of others?

And lastly, it is very rare, I have never seen it myself, but it is possible that mom ate the babies.

Not so much for food, but to end their captivity. (Animals of many different species will kill the babies before they will let humans "have them")

I had a momma mouse that murdered her litter twice, ate nothing, just severed the spines. Ultimately I had to feed her to my Pueblan, I couldn't deal with the killings.

bio6464
08-08-2008, 09:05 PM
1 baby, no stillborns, on newspaper so no substrate to check. Oh well I guess I'll see in the morning. :confused: The one baby is REALLY cute, he/she has a distinct white neck and a white ring...I don't know if this will fade but it's something I've never seen on an adult. :D
Jerry

Snake lover 3-25
08-08-2008, 09:07 PM
congrats!!!!!:D more pics!!!!!:D

infernalis
08-08-2008, 09:44 PM
he/she has a distinct white neck and a white ring...I don't know if this will fade but it's something I've never seen on an adult. :D
Jerry


the ring is normal, and yes it fades with each shed till gone.

48 different babies, all had it for a couple months, then gone forever.

Check out this Dekayi, NOT mine, I wish it was!!!

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4126/snake8708oy0.jpg

bio6464
08-08-2008, 09:54 PM
Wayne I'm not a fan of albinism...but that is a pretty unique looking "brown".
Jerry

infernalis
08-08-2008, 10:39 PM
Jerry, I also am not a big albino fan, My snow eastern was a non feeder.

However, this is the absolute first albino DK I have ever seen:D

And since there is no commercial interest in dekay's, it will most likely not be propagated.

I wish I could get my hands on her, I admit I am a collector, and collectors are drawn to rarity.

Hornets23
08-08-2008, 11:44 PM
how tiny and adorable it is!

bio6464
08-09-2008, 08:59 AM
Got up this morning and mom has shed...still no more babies though.
Jerry

Aundrea
08-09-2008, 09:14 AM
hmmm wonder if shes gonna have anymore? Hows the little one doing?

infernalis
08-09-2008, 09:54 AM
I guess that on the bright side, it is a lot easier to find food for just one, as opposed to feeding a bunch.

bio6464
08-09-2008, 10:50 AM
So last night I seperated my 2 browns, checked my "fat" female this morning and nothing but a fresh shed. :mad: About 10 mins ago I checked the "thin male" and BABIES...DOH!!!!! :o I guess he's a she...no count yet as I'm heading to Chicago. Pics and a count tonight. Now What am I gonna do if "mom" has hers soon....SIGH!
Jerry

Aundrea
08-09-2008, 10:56 AM
WOW Your gonna have your hands full!!!! I cant wait to see pics :D

anji1971
08-09-2008, 07:24 PM
Congrats on your little Dekay........what a teeny little sweetheart!:)
And best wishes with your other baby snakies!

jitami
08-09-2008, 09:01 PM
Too funny Jerry! At least the mystery is solved! Looking forward to pics of the rest of the brood :)