Flames

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

I just wanted to know who else has flames here on the forum... and if they could throw up some pictures?! I am picking up my flames next month from Scott, and I am so overwhelmingly excited that I just.... well... I want to look at other flames!

for starters, here's the one I caught last weekend. Soon, I will have 1.1 MORE that are 66% het leucistic from Scott Felzer. ::rocks back and forth in fetal position:: my babies are coming my babies are coming.....

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/Snakes/Garters/467128.jpg

[GartersRock]

You guys have already seen these. But I to am SOO excited! Getting them on Monday!
Johnis and Karas (Yep, I changed their names. ;) )
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d931b3127ccec4c00771b0d100000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/






http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d931b3127ccec4c11872d00900000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

[Steve C]

Looking forward to seeing some pics of your flames when you receive them. I think Scott sold out of his flames before I even have a chance to blink. Anyway, I also have a couple of garters on order from Scott. Picking up a male similis to pair with my female, and also a female parietalis. Steve:)

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

the pair im getting from her looks almost identical to that

You guys have already seen these. But I to am SOO excited! Getting them on Monday!
Johnis and Karas (Yep, I changed their names. ;) )
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d931b3127ccec4c00771b0d100000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/






http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8d931b3127ccec4c11872d00900000040O02AaNmTdm4csg e3nwA/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

[GartersRock]

Cool!! Our males are SOO red already... I can't WAIT to see how they color up!

[zooplan]

This is Flavia:
http://www.zooplan.net/images/Flavia1.jpg

[zooplan]

And that is Xenia, a X-Flame:
http://www.zooplan.net/images/xenia.jpg

[bio6464]

Beautiful, I REALLY gotta get me one of these. :cool:
Jerry

[Snaky]

I think this will become a nice thread :D
Beautiful snakes, you all.

[zooplan]

I saw a flame at Martins cellar,
dark red as an old fashioned clinker
so sad that he´s no member to show
a pic of those
but there are some interesting shots on his HP
Homepage von Martin Hallmen (http://www.martinhallmen.de)

[adamanteus]

Martin has some very interesting Garter species.... I wonder if he is breeding his ordinoides?

[zooplan]

I had only a short glance on them, and know nothing about their bereeding status.
You´ll have to email him to ask if he is expeting offspring of those.

[infernalis]

http://www.reformedsniper.net/GSM/extreme.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/garter/masubius.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/eastern/M2.jpg

[Lori P]

Sigh.... yeah. Someday. :-)

[Gijs & Sabine]

OMG, you're spoiling them, Wayne :D Are those babytoads?

[Gijs & Sabine]

we've got quite some flames as well, here are a few ...

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/Thamnophis%20van%20Ronald/Tssflamem.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/Thamnophis%20van%20Ronald/Tssflamem1.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/Thamnophis%20van%20Ronald/Tssflamef.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/kousfotos%20mei/flame30-5-086Small.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/Thamnophis/P1010250Small-3.jpg

[infernalis]

OMG, you're spoiling them, Wayne :D Are those babytoads?

Baby peepers. I ran out of baby toads.

We own some wetlands, So in the spring I gather some of the polliwogs and let them culture in a tank, so they remain parasite free.

These work excellent to start a feeding response in snakes that others cannot get to feed.

Then I scent the fish with frog, to ween them off the frog diet.

Thanks for noticing;)

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/eastern/M1.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/radix/radixsnow.jpg

[zooplan]

Sabine,
I´m sure your snake all are little bauties,
but you are such an excellent photographer
to show always their best side:D

[infernalis]

I like this one a lot!!!:D Thanks for showing that one off;)

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/gijssabine/kousfotos%20mei/flame30-5-086Small.jpg

[Gijs & Sabine]

These work excellent to start a feeding response in snakes that others cannot get to feed.

Then I scent the fish with frog, to ween them off the frog diet.

I'm not familiar with peepers :confused: I quess it's some kind of toad or frog?

I have no doubt this works perfect for difficult eaters!! I should have those peepers as well for my cyrtopsis cyrtopsis.....some of them are still a pain :mad:

@ Udo: thanks for the compliment :o

[Gijs & Sabine]

I like this one a lot!!!:D Thanks for showing that one off;)


Thanks Wayne :) I like her also, she's a sweethart, really lovely to handle ♥

[infernalis]

Peepers are a small frog, named so due to the "peep peep" noise they make during mating season.

Spring Peeper Frog - Frogs - University of Wisconsin Sea Grant (http://seagrant.wisc.edu/frogs/peeper.html)

[Gijs & Sabine]

Thanks for the link, Wayne ;)

[Aundrea]

UGH makes me one a flame so bad!!!! I hope someday ill own one :cool::D

[reptileparadise]

I have no doubt this works perfect for difficult eaters!! I should have those peepers as well for my cyrtopsis cyrtopsis.....some of them are still a pain :mad:



oh no...don't say that!:(

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

peepers!!! I see and hear them every year! they only show themselves at night.... they LOVE skunk cabbage! (but dont break off a leaf of skunk cabbage... it is FOUL)

I've not found any tadpoles this year!

keep all the lovely flames coming!!

[anji1971]

This is Flavia:
http://www.zooplan.net/images/Flavia1.jpg

This is my favourite. Very, very, very nice!!:cool:

[GartersRock]

Flavia is very, very nice!

[Garter_Gertie]

(banging head on keyboard) I HATE the Canadian government, I HATE the Canadian government, I HATE the Canadian government, I HATE the Canadian government, I HATE the Canadian government, I HATE the Canadian government.

[infernalis]

Why is that MK????

[GartersRock]

Hmm? I thought there was a whole line of Flames out of Canada... Dr. Phil Blais?

[infernalis]

The captive bred Flames produced are superior in colorations to MOST wild caught.

[Gijs & Sabine]

oh no...don't say that!:(

Sorry, Sjoerd :o But you shouldn't worry...you have well instructed parents and a few helplines staying behind ;)

[snakeman]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/flame_x_eyrth_female.JPG

[snakeman]

These two are from the same broodhttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/BROTHERS.JPG

[snakeman]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/DSCF00241.JPG

[GartersRock]

Oh my GOD. That one on the bottom is incredible!!

[snakeman]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/flames.JPG

[GartersRock]

Oh wow and that one too!!!!

These are some of my favorites I have ever seen. ;)

[snakeman]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/DSCF0038.JPGHere is another pic of that male.

[GartersRock]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/DSCF00241.JPG

Do you have pics or could you describe what this one looked like as a baby?

[infernalis]

Awesome snakes-Man:D

[GartersRock]

You can say that again. He's killing me!

[snakeman]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/Felzer_speckled_flame_male.JPGHere he is as a baby

[snakeman]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/female_flame.JPG

[snakeman]

I have had a lot of garters over the years! Thanks!

[infernalis]

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/female_flame.JPG

Wow look at the prize that came in that box of cereal!!!

That's one way to sell cereal. Gotta go buy some lucky charms now.

Wonder what comes in cracker jacks these days:rolleyes:

[Garter_Gertie]

Dekay! YOU SOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm choking on my own spit here!!!! TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 911!!!!!!!! I CAN'T BREATHE!

So. HOW do I get on a list for one o'those garters that look like they've been dipped in BBQ sauce?

Had that sweet little boy been MINE as a baby... He'd have been eaten alive, hugged to death and kissed within an inch of his life!

I want a boy just like his daddy!

[anji1971]

Snakeman.............
Those -- flames -- are -- AWESOME! :cool:

[crzy_kevo]

anji post your chili she is a flame :D

[anji1971]

No, she's not really. She's just a high red Eastern. Flames have red on the scales, not just between them, and usually on their face too. But, if I ever have the space and time to try my hand at breeding, she'd be the one I'd find a flame to mate with. She's a great prospect for starting a "flame dynasty" in my home!

[crzy_kevo]

aww cmon post a pic shes close enough to a flame i saw her myself after all
she has that red stripe all the way to the tail

[anji1971]

She does, and I've posted quite a few pictures of her before.
But she's not a flame. We don't have flames here in Ontario.
She's still my beauty queen though. I love her colouring!

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

flames have a bright red/orange stripe down both sides from the neck alll the way to the tail tip. Many of them, but not all, also have orange or red on their stomachs, as well as orange or red cheeks. Most have a white stripe, the flame I recently found has barely any stripe on its back and no orange on the face. nonetheless, a beautiful snake and a lucky find! Many eastern garters have orange in between their scales that often sticks out a little, and some pretty orange blushing, technically, not flames, but still gorgeous in their own rites. Like Chili!!!!

[anji1971]

Don't worry, Kevin. If you ever see a flame in real life, you will immediately spot the difference! But I'm glad you're so taken by Chili. She is a special gal!

[infernalis]

Kevin, here is my sweetest (looking, she's a biter) high red eastern, she has a white dorsal stripe, red sides but still lacks the punch of a true flame.

http://www.reformedsniper.net/gsm/wbr.jpg

http://www.reformedsniper.net/cane/red.jpg

A Flame looks quite different....

http://www.reformedsniper.net/1/magma.jpg

Cheeto would almost have a better chance of qualifying as an Orange flame:eek:

[GartersRock]

Oh thank you snakeman! Very nice! Looks exactly like my Johnis I will be getting looks!! Oh... I do HOPE he turns out like THAT!! PLEASE, please, PLEASE! *Thinking red thoughts* rofl!

[drache]

all this colour
speechless
anybody here know that Aesop fable about the fox and the grapes?
Sour grapes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sour_grapes) - in case you don't
boy am I glad, I managed to get one of Tina's babies (it took a few jumps)
I imagine I'll find out that those grapes are as sweet as they look

[snakeman]

It's all a crapshoot.Some color up a lot some don't at all.

[infernalis]

boy am I glad, I managed to get one of Tina's babies (it took a few jumps) I imagine I'll find out that those grapes are as sweet as they look

You got one of Tina's babies? That is great news:D

[drache]

You got one of Tina's babies? That is great news:D
well, getting - to be precise
next week
I'm pretty stoked

[infernalis]

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/happy.gif

[Garter_Gertie]

Well, I guess, Rhea! I'd be STOKED too! Congratulations! Have you a name picked out?

[drache]

no
we have to meet first

[Garter_Gertie]

LOL!!!! Yeah, I feel'ya. But I couldn't help but laugh.

"Rhea, this is 'flame.'

'Flame, I'd like'ya to meet Rhea."

[infernalis]

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/flames/masubi.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/stuff/SFlame.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/eastern/m3.jpg

[drache]

well, we just met
and I must say, Tina completely misled me as to the nature of this boy
any name I would have picked out would have been wrong and I need to completely start from scratch
I expected something a lot more average - this boy is stunning!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/2713312035_5c4261dd4a_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/2713308907_52ea28d658_b.jpg

sorry - I had to run off and look up some references to that particular kind of red - didn't pan out though

[jitami]

Oh, he's gorgeous Rhea! Enjoy him!

[count dewclaw]

Ooo, he looks great. You're right, he's stunning!

[infernalis]

Thats one extreme cherry you have there.

very nice. Congradulations.

Rhea, there were a whole lot of great name ideas presented on the name my flame game thread.

Feel free to use any that you'd like.

[Lori P]

OH WOW. Oh, Rhea, he is GORGEOUS!!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!

[adamanteus]

Rhea, he is seriously red. Wow.

[Stefan-A]

Very nice indeed. :)

[GartersRock]

Yep! Aren't they awesome!! I think they are REALLY gonna color up even more.... MuwahaHahaha.....

[crzy_kevo]

rhea i don't think you like him enough you should send him to me to be spoiled

[reptileparadise]

Ahhhh...what an ugly duckling! Lovely!

[anji1971]

Rhea, that is one of the most beautiful shades of red I've ever seen.
All I can say is WOW!:)

[drache]

colour up more - are you serious?
is that even possible?
like him?
he's the first baby ever I've been able to photograph on my hand without endangering my camera - we are buddies
I hardly think it's possible to like anyone more in such a short period of time without the aid of sexual attraction

[GartersRock]

Oh, yeah! Flame babies aren't always this red. They usually are duller and then color up. So will these! And they are already SO red! I think our "Tina boys" will turn out to be real screamers!! ;)
I just realized my sister took the camera to California.... Will have to take pics of mine on Saturday. Hphm...

They are SWEETIES too aren't they!!! I think I adore my male Johnis a little too much... lol!

[Garter_Gertie]

Tina, they are stunning! CONGRATULATIONS! Fabulous snakes.

[drache]

we're thinking of Ember as a name for him
have considered Rufous and Carmine, but Rufous isn't red enough and Mikhaila says that Carmine is a girl's name

[anji1971]

I like Ember. That's the name I always figured I'd use if I ever got a Flame.
It's a pretty name, and she's a gorgeous snake!:)

[infernalis]

Ember is a nice flame name.:D

[Gijs & Sabine]

Congrats, Rhea, he is absolutely gorgeous :eek:

[Hornets23]

Snakeman....wow.....your snakes are gorgeous!

[Snaky]

He is absolutely gorgeous.

About the coloring, not all will color up. They might lose some of the color or the color can be more intense. But 1 of the 2 will happen when they grow and you have to be a bit lucky.

[GartersRock]

Wha?? I have never heard they can LOOSE color?? You sure?

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

you know what

I am going to get a flame and name it

"chilly"

[Garter_Gertie]

I like "Carmine." So NY! So Italian! So where he lives! Yeah. Carmine.

[snakeman]

Yes , some flame do lose color after about 3 or four years.I once had a peach flame that was beautiful as a baby.In two years it looked almost totally normal.

[GartersRock]

Well that stinks.

[zooplan]

A lot of garters have a progress of their pattern during the first month of live and will keep it for a long time or even the whole live.
Other snakes are often most beautyful in the second of birth and loose a little bit brilliance with each shed.

[charles parenteau]

All flame you see on thoses pictires are awesome!!!! you never know the true color of specimen untile 2-3 years of age ...thats one of reason i love flame ,and you never know what the babies will look like..

[person365]

I wonder why is everyone so pumped up over flames. I think my eastern has better colors than the flames. This is just my opinion so I don't want people to think that I am against flames or owning flames. I think there are nicer snakes out there. Again this is just my opinion.

[crzy_kevo]

well i think its because of the extreme orange and red colors that the flames have me personally red and black are my favourite colors so that a major reason why i love flames and i am expecting flames in a couple months

they aren't born yet and i can't wait to get them :D:D:D:D:D:D

[anji1971]

You're getting Flames, Kevin???
Where was I when this monumental event happened? You lucky thing, you!:cool::)

[Hornets23]

I wouldn't mind getting one.

[GartersRock]

What pics have you seen of flames? Did you look through this thread? I can see how someone might personally like reg eastern colors over the flame phase. But to say "better colors" makes me wonder... Just curious! :D
I guess it's a question to whether you like red or not. :p

[infernalis]

Amanda Some people may not be attracted to red.

My 2 favorite colors of the whole spectrum, red and blue

Flames and Puget sound garters the first two garter varieties to suck the money out of my wallet:eek:

I can see where someone who dislikes red may find flames less than attractive.

[Aundrea]

I hope to get a flame someday. They are so pretty and the blue ones also :D

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

My newer female eastern Bluela, is a lovely off-shade of blue... and two of her lil ones have the same blue tinge. its really strange, actually. And attractive. I think once she fattens up and sheds... she will be quite photoworthy!

Her babies, it is impossible to photograph their color. It's really weird!