A few cool pictures / stories attached.

[reptile3]

Peach is gorgeous!!! That is the next fish we get, an Oscar!!!:)

[Snake lover 3-25]

wow cool fish!!! great pics:)

[Lori P]

Great pics, Wayne-- loved the shedding process. I got to watch one of the Fl blues shed this morning. :-) And very awesome fish!!!!

[infernalis]

Limon.....

http://www.dekayi.info/cool/limelime.jpg

Rusty......

http://www.dekayi.info/cool/rusty.jpg

A very old picture of my Moms (now deceased) Schnauzer Babi....(taken around 1990 ish.) This scanner rocks, I want one:D Belongs to a client who could not get it to work for them.

http://www.dekayi.info/cool/babi2.jpg

[drache]

really nice photos, Wayne
I so would love to have a scanner that does negs and slides

[olive oil]

Enjoyed the pictures.
Peach is so pretty kinda makes me want to get another one:)

[anji1971]

Great bunch of pictures, Wayne!:cool:
Peach is very pretty, however I would need a much bigger tank to keep fish like that! Mine is only a 5G.:p

[brain]

Wayne is Limon a Liochlorophis vernalis borealis, smooth green snake?

Very brilliant color

[infernalis]

Wayne is Limon a Liochlorophis vernalis borealis, smooth green snake?

No Michael, Limon is a Cyclophiops Major, or Giant Asian green snake.

He is about 4 feet long and eats night crawlers.

http://www.dekayi.info/limon/tree1.jpg

[jitami]

I so jealous that everyone else's snakes are eating! Sigh...

[brain]

Nice color

[infernalis]

Red sided juvenile...

http://www.dekayi.info/nature/RS.jpg

Ace

http://www.dekayi.info/nature/ace1.jpg

Our water snake "Aqua"

http://www.dekayi.info/nature/aqua.jpg

[reptile3]

Limon is gorgeous!!!


wow your watersnake is cool!

[infernalis]

Carmella just ate in my hand:D

http://www.dekayi.info/nature/carmella.jpg

http://www.dekayi.info/nature/carmela.jpg

[reptile3]

Now that is soooo cool!!! Wow, Wayne you have the magic touch with snakies:D

[infernalis]

I think she was just hungry:D

[guidofatherof5]

You always have great photos to share.
Thanks, Wayne.

[jitami]

Nice! :)

[Loren]

Aww, he is a cutie!
No chance you can accommodate him? If he doesn't grow too fast, maybe you can, over time, work on a suitable "grown up" house for him? Just a thought, I really don't know enough about the critters. How fast do they grow??:confused:

FAST.

My savannah monitor was 18" long and 1 pound- at an estimated 8 months old when I got him. 12 months later, he was 36" long and 7 pounds. He topped out at 40" long and about 8 pounds.

Tami- I know they are tempting- but dont do it without some serious consideration. :)

[Loren]

Wayne, I just got through the last couple dozen pics you added to this thread (I get so behind on this forum)- great pics and great snakes. :)

[crzy_kevo]

Carmella just ate in my hand:D

http://www.dekayi.info/nature/carmella.jpg

http://www.dekayi.info/nature/carmela.jpg


either you have giant hands or carmella isnt full grown because she looks tiny in your hands

[infernalis]

Glove size XXL Kevin.

7 1/2 inches from wrist to tip of middle finger

Carmella is nearly 3 feet long, but not really big in the girth department.

The 9 egg clutch would probably indicate an adult.

But judging by her extreme lack of cunning, she probably did not eat well in the wild.

[drache]

sweet
even if it was just hunger

[infernalis]

Finally got my webs fixed.:D Seems I mis-read an email, But Go Daddy fixed it right up for $28 with 1 year extensions on my names.

All my pictures work again.

http://www.dekayi.info/PG1/images/airmouse.jpg
http://www.dekayi.info/PG1/images/masubi.jpg
http://www.dekayi.info/PG1/images/12volt.jpg

[jitami]

FAST.
Tami- I know they are tempting- but dont do it without some serious consideration. :)

No worries :)

[jitami]

Wayne, that pic of Limon hanging from the light is too cute!

[infernalis]

Wayne, that pic of Limon hanging from the light is too cute!

I figured he would, so I got a plastic bulb that runs on 12 volts.

It stays cool, makes nice light, and it is safe for him.

They make them for solar powered homes.

[infernalis]

We went outside today and enjoyed the nearly 50 degree weather.

Ace was happy to go out and play, check him out.

In this first picture look at the shadow, Ace is probably 2-3 feet up off the ground. (He bounces like tigger)
http://www.dekayi.info/ace/Aceroo.jpg

Here is a nice shot of him launching for another bounce.(Notice the shadow touches his legs)
http://www.dekayi.info/ace/aceroo2.jpg

Trust me on this one, I did not build this, It was already there...
http://www.dekayi.info/ace/snowman1.jpg
This snowman is in the woods guarding over the creek.
I suspect one of the neighborhood kids had to be responsible.

http://www.dekayi.info/ace/snowman2.jpg

[drache]

nice, Wayne
I used to live in a place like that - had dogs too
a little sad right now - thanks for the pics

[infernalis]

Thanks for looking at them Rhea.

Once upon a time this thread got really heavy responses, So either it has gotten boring or I have.

[count dewclaw]

Neither this thread nor you have gotten boring. I don't know about others, but sometimes I just don't feel like responding, even though I enjoy looking at the threads. :rolleyes:

[infernalis]

Thanks Leann, I sometimes get the same way;)

[reptile3]

Ace's first pic... on an invisible snowmobile

Wow, that snow is gorgeous... i like snow, just not shoveling it. Nice pics of the snowman.. Last time I made one was like 7 yrs ago...

:)

[infernalis]

There is a young man from down the street who hangs out alone in my woods all the time.

I'd wager that he was responsible for the snow man.

I ran into him once and asked why, he said it keeps him out of trouble.

As long as he does not harm anything, I am pleased to keep him out of trouble.

His father passed away a couple months ago (An old school friend) so he "hermits" a lot in the woods lately.

Not often that kids in their middle teens are content just walking around in the woods alone, I never found the enjoyment in that until I was around 30

Usually when I find kids in my woods, they are up to no good.

So this fella is kinda like my "security guard"

[Snake lover 3-25]

Not often that kids in their middle teens are content just walking around in the woods alone, I never found the enjoyment in that until I was around 30


lol i'm just fine walking around in the woods lol:)

neat pics lol ace is cute:)

[anji1971]

Oh, I sooooo wish I had an Ace. Every time I look at a picture of him, I can't get over how sweet he is.
I may have mentioned that a few times already.:D
And, Wayne, your thread is far from boring. I too sometimes just read things without responding. I'm not always feeling talkative.

[Loren]

Wayne, I just caught up on your thread again- great pics, I especially like the garter in your hand (the one in the middle of 3 pics). The dog jumping pic is cool too.

I try to keep up on all the main threads, but I get way behind. I often check just 5-6 threads a day. So, rather than read each new post- I get a week's worth at a time.
Keep posting. :)

[crzy_kevo]

looks like ace was really enjoyng himself out there and i agree the weather we are having is awesome :D

[reptile3]

i have always been fascinated in walking in the woods, it's fun. I may have came across all kinds of snakes back in the day! Now I go & look & find poison ivy! LOL :p

[Snake lover 3-25]

me too!!! then when i go out just to go out they sneek up on me!!!!!:eek:

[jitami]

Neither this thread nor you have gotten boring. I don't know about others, but sometimes I just don't feel like responding, even though I enjoy looking at the threads. :rolleyes:

Yep... and lately most of my computer time has been with a basset hound on my lap... kinda hard to type :) I'm sure there's various reasons why people don't respond... I wouldn't for a minute assume it's because you're boring ;)

[olive oil]

I love your pictures & stories Wayne:)

[infernalis]

And I love you guys...

[Lori P]

Wayne, I've been reading a lot more lately than responding. But I do love this thread, so keep it up. I loooooove seeing your critters!!!

And I spent the majority of my youth alone, in the woods. I was never one to hang with the other kids. I adored the woods and never felt lonely there!! I still go for long woods walks only now it's with a dozen dogs and several goats tagging along... lol

[drache]

not only do I have times of reading and not responding
I also have times of responding and forgetting to hit "post" and later wondering whether James censored me or cyber space kidnapped my comment

[infernalis]

I also have times of responding and forgetting to hit "post" and later wondering whether James censored me or cyber space kidnapped my comment


I think that has happened to most of us once or twice;)

[infernalis]

Found another nice shot of Chomper....

http://www.dekayi.info/3/chompster.jpg

[Sid]

Nice phot, Wayne and this is an interesting thread.

[infernalis]

Thanks Sid.

Here is Cain having a bath, Strangely this time he seemed to really enjoy it.

He sat in the tub for half an hour before he wanted out.

http://www.dekayi.info/3/caintub.jpg

[Snake lover 3-25]

awww cute:):D

[reptile3]

Chompers is the cutest ever! & Cain, sure is handsome...

[olive oil]

Love the Cain & Chompers pictures:)

[brain]

Thanks Sid.

Here is Cain having a bath, Strangely this time he seemed to really enjoy it.

He sat in the tub for half an hour before he wanted out.

http://www.dekayi.info/3/caintub.jpg

Sid looks good

I was looking at craigslist (snakes, Seattle/Tacoma) was real shocked to see how many people wanted to dispose of them. People really don’t realize the commitment to any animal when they take them in as a pet.

Shameful really…..

[infernalis]

People really don’t realize the commitment to any animal when they take them in as a pet.

Shameful really…..

Agreed.

Very sad, And Ball Pythons go for a "dime a dozen" so when some kid asks for one, mom and dad give in.

3 years later the kid has lost interest, and the snake suffers for it.

One day soon we are going to get another from a semi-local animal shelter that gets them and iguanas fairly regularly.

Considering how many become "Lost souls" we will NEVER purchase ANY from a pet store.

[drache]

nice pics, Wayne
Chomper is such a handsome guy

[infernalis]

Last night I read a "bicker" thread on the KS Monitor forum (seems to be the only kind they have) about walking monitors on leashes.

Lots of opinions both for & against.

As soon as the "against" folks started talking about hot asphalt and scaring people, I quit reading.

It makes me glad to live where there is so much land and woods available.

I can't wait to take him back outside, He enjoys eating everything that moves, he's like a vacuum cleaner with legs.

He "marks" the territory, funny to watch, he runs from tree to tree and drops a small load:eek:

When we get to the creek, he is an excellent swimmer, although he has never shown any interest in eating aquatic life.

Out in the open, worms, slugs, grasshoppers, crickets, whatever moves he runs right up and inhales it.

I really hope to build him his paddock, I think it would be great for him to have a big escape proof pen in the yard.

[adamanteus]

I love to see pics of that when you build it, Wayne. It's a great idea.

[infernalis]

Hope to have it done by July, take your own pictures James.

[adamanteus]

Hope to have it done by July.


Oh, I was hoping to help!

[infernalis]

Oh, I was hoping to help!

Really? .................

[adamanteus]

Sure.. in an 'elbow grease' kind of way. It would be nice when viewing your future pics to be able to think " I cut that timber" or " I dug the holes for those posts".

[infernalis]

Sure.. in an 'elbow grease' kind of way. It would be nice when viewing your future pics to be able to think " I cut that timber" or " I dug the holes for those posts".


I know what you mean.

When I went to Brasil, I helped Roberto paint his house. It was kinda neat knowing I left something behind.

I am thinking that since monitors are burrowing animals, I'll have to find a way from keeping him from tunneling too deep.

I think that (hope that) since it gets colder the deeper down he'd go, that the temperatures would deter him from going down more than a few feet.

[adamanteus]

I would be tempted to consider digging down a couple of foot and laying a steel mesh, then re-fill and tamp it down. As you know monitors are mini excavators!:D

[infernalis]

Took a couple pictures last night. This time from my tank in our living room.

These are the snakes that have been here the longest...

First up the snake formerly known as princess. (he's a boy, so I just call him Prince, Samantha called him "Princess when I first caught him)

A couple months ago I dropped the tank cover on his head, thought I was going to lose him, the scar is just under his left eye (visible in the photo)

http://www.dekayi.info/snakies/prince.jpg

And of course my sweetie DK Xena, she always gets in the way when I take pictures in that tank. She sees the flash and scoots right out...

http://www.dekayi.info/snakies/xena.jpg

[Snake lover 3-25]

awww cute pics! :)

[jitami]

Very cute :)

[guidofatherof5]

Wayne,
Looks like Xena is getting ready to shed. Great looking snakes.
Can't wait to meet them in July.

[drache]

nice pics
Xena's really cool

[infernalis]

nice pics
Xena's really cool

Xena started this whole obsession, had her 3 years now.

Our landlord bent his no pet policy and allowed us to keep her.

When we got the house, it just exploded! (Our snake collection)

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Awwwwe, Xena is adorable Wayne!!!

Being as evil as I am, I probably still would have called the garter princess, even after finding it's a boy... names stick so hard in my head... lol!!!

[infernalis]

Soon I plan to video Xena, All I have to do is put my hand in the tank, and she will scoot right over and many times climb right on, hoping for a "lift".

This girl is so sweet, she seems to want to be held.

I don't know what to make of it, but it really does appear that she likes the attention.

The day the cover dropped into the tank, I felt so awful. Prince's face swelled up, and I thought the poor dude was going to be messed up for the rest of his life.

2 shed cycles later he is close to normal again.

It's one thing to lose a snake that is fairly new to the collection, but I have yet to deal with the loss of an old timer.

[drache]

It's one thing to lose a snake that is fairly new to the collection, but I have yet to deal with the loss of an old timer.
I think about that sometimes
there are some that I'm extra fond of

[infernalis]

Open mouth inset foot.

Chief my wild caught red phase eastern adult has passed:mad:

He went off feed, and chilling him did not bring back his desire to eat.

Diana his cage mate looks rather lonely (Yes I know, she most likely does not miss him, but I have grown so used to seeing them interact with each other, now she just sits there)

Fingers crossed that maybe they bred.

No new cage mates for a while, just in case he had some sort of parasitic disease, she will remain alone until I can be sure it has not spread.

http://www.dekayi.info/GSM/chief.jpg

[infernalis]

Peach is gorgeous!!! That is the next fish we get, an Oscar!!!:)

Saw some Oscars at petco yesterday, UGLY compared to Peach!

[Snake lover 3-25]

sorry for your loss:(

[Stefan-A]

Sorry to hear that.

[infernalis]

Thanks Stefan and Shanley.

[olive oil]

Sorry for the loss Wayne:(

[guidofatherof5]

That's a shame, Wayne. My condolences.

[Lori P]

Oh bummer Wayne. I'm so sorry for the loss of Chief. :-(

[infernalis]

He's the first adult garter to die on me, Being a WC it could be any number of reasons.

Parasite load, age, etc...

Thanks everybody.

[Lori P]

Well, same with my Florida Blue. I agonized over buying a wild caught and won't ever do it again... but he really was special to me. I hope and pray to have the female for a long time... I hope your girl is gravid for you!!

[Aundrea]

Im sorry about your loss Wayne..

Xena acts just like Bennie. I put my hand in the tank and she comes right up to me. She LOVES to be held. I put her back in her tank and she trys to stay on my arm LOL. She loves attention also. Max on the other hand HATES to be held. He dont like anyone to touch him LOL. The funny thing is Bennie is a WC

[anji1971]

Sorry to hear about Chief, Wayne. :( This kind of thing always sucks.
Hopefully his girl will be healthy, and maybe even expecting for you.

[infernalis]

Time for some new photos, and since Aundria brought up the Dekayi, I'll start with that one first.

All I did was place my hand in the tank, check these gals out. Xena is the one with the red hue.

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/snakies/2dk.jpg

Spot looks like he has some cool blue contact lenses on.

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/snakies/aliensnake.jpg

I have never shown off Limon when he is getting ready to shed, so here he is.

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/snakies/limolt.jpg

[infernalis]

Here is a fat gravid water snake I photographed in the wild 2 summers ago, found the pictures while cleaning up my hard drive.

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/snakies/nerodia.jpg

Shanley's Meadow chillin' in our living room.

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/snakies/meadow.jpg

And I caught this guy shedding last night.

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/snakies/shedding.jpg

[olive oil]

Great pictures Wayne. Really like the one of Spot with his blue eyes, I think it's so cool when they just show up.
Shanley, Mellow is looking pretty:)

[guidofatherof5]

Thanks Wayne for the update. Like your photos but want a personal introduction this summer.

It's not necessary to search me when I leave*fingers crossed*

[misskris]

Great pictures :)

[Stefan-A]

Here is a fat gravid water snake I photographed in the wild 2 summers ago, found the pictures while cleaning up my hard drive.

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/snakies/nerodia.jpg

Sure it's gravid and not just recently fed?

[infernalis]

Don't worry, there will be personal visits to the reptile room.

I have been pondering that concept, and in all fairness I will limit the number of people allowed in there at any one time, Not that I am remotely worried about any theft, but 12x18 will seem rather small with a half dozen of us in there at once.

[reptile3]

Wayne love how the dekayis come right up to you! How cool is that!

Limon, wow looks totally different when in shed. Also that one with the "blue contact lense" that was funny!!

very nice... hey if only a few ppl in your reptile room at a time, no0 problem.
You are being so kind to let us "PARTY" at your place. We can respect you, in regards to the reptile room or anything.

:)

[infernalis]

Just think how chaotic it could be with a half dozen folks at once in the same room.

I can be surrounded by very large groups outside, but walls start closing in on me when it happens indoors.

[reptile3]

I don't like being crowded in a room with too many ppl myself!! Panic/Anxiety attacks!! :eek:


Just think how chaotic it could be with a half dozen folks at once in the same room.

I can be surrounded by very large groups outside, but walls start closing in on me when it happens indoors.

[crzy_kevo]

great pics wayne as always love those dekayi's

[Lori P]

I don't like being crowded in a room with too many ppl myself!! Panic/Anxiety attacks!! :eek:

Oh wow-- me too!!! I recently had to go to traffic court (I'm such a hoodlum) and it was wall to wall PACKED... and I started to have trouble breathing. Had to really concentrate to chill out. I've never actually had a panic attack, but I think that came real close. I know, I know... stop driving like a demon and you won't have to go to court. :rolleyes:

[guidofatherof5]

No wayne, really. Limon must have crawled in to my camera bag when I set it down, really:D

[Lori P]

We are going to have to keep a REAL CLOSE eye on Steve and his infamous camera bag!!!!

[charles parenteau]

wow i just read all the post!! I really love your monitor and you have many beautiful animal...

[infernalis]

Merci' beaucoup Charles:D

Did I say that right?

[Aundrea]

awwwwww they are all sooooo pretty!!! Yep thats how Bennie is Wayne when I put my hand in the tank. Today I got her out. One of Andrews friends wanted to hold her so I took her out. Seemed like she was enjoying the attention. She didnt want to be put back in her tank lol. Max of course slithered away.

[jitami]

Wayne, so sorry to hear about Chief :( I spent some time with my two older adults today, too so this hits close to the heart :(

[Snake lover 3-25]

neat pics:) i especially like the one of meadow lol:p

[infernalis]

Sure it's gravid and not just recently fed?

That plumpness seems to go all the way down to the tail...

However, I am only guessing, When I photo in the wild, I seldom touch my subjects.

I prefer to leave them unmolested.

It was the correct time of year for her to be gravid, but then again she lives near a pond filled with food.

[infernalis]

Carmella is consitantly feeding from our hands, just last night she even did it for Samantha. She is unusually sweet for this species.

http://www.dekayi.info/1/Sammy.jpg

A few nights ago for me.

http://www.dekayi.info/1/carmella.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Great job, Samantha.
You to, Wayne.

[Hornets23]

Dont you love it when that last bit of tail goes down....reminds me of spaghetti.....

[reptile3]

Dont you love it when that last bit of tail goes down....reminds me of spaghetti.....


same here, I like the last bit of the tail!!! Wayne what is my milksnake eating?
Wow that is so cool, that Carmella lets you & Sam feed her right there!!!:)

[infernalis]

Wayne what is my milksnake eating?
Wow that is so cool, that Carmella lets you & Sam feed her right there!!!:)


Thawed pinkies. 3 times a week.

http://www.dekayi.info/breeding/milk.jpg

[reptile3]

AWesome... thanks for the pic too!!



Thawed pinkies. 3 times a week.

http://www.dekayi.info/breeding/milk.jpg

[Aundrea]

WOW them milk snakes are soooooooo pretty!!!! :eek:

That is so neat that they eat outta your hand!!!!

[Snake lover 3-25]

cute pics:D

[infernalis]

Thanks everyone. Hey I know this is probably weird, but it was fun just to see the kids get excited with fascination.

When pinky shipments arrive there is always a big block of dry ice in the box.

The kids are off school this whole week, so I did a simple demonstration that left them in awe.

I broke up the dry ice into medium size chunks and placed one in a bowl of soapy water.

http://www.reformedsniper.net/3/foam.jpg

Little Raymond is 6, he just thought that was the coolest.

After a few minutes of blowing bubbles, the sink looked like this.

http://www.reformedsniper.net/3/fog.jpg

Samantha wanted to put a chunk in her glass of pop, I told her no way, Maybe this summer when we can do it outside, but not in the house.

The reaction would make a big mess.

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol that's neat!:D

[crzy_kevo]

wayne here is what you do get a big bottle of pop add some water then dry ice and put the cap on tight leave it in the midle of your field and wait lol :D

if there are any cars with alarms its sure to set them off :D

[guidofatherof5]

Family time. Nice job, Wayne.
Memories not soon forgotten. :)

[infernalis]

Last night was the first time, Muttly ate a whole pink. Prior he has been getting them sliced up.

He had to work for 10+ minutes to get it down, but he did it.

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/1/mutt.jpg

[crzy_kevo]

muttly is the checkered/eastern cross right

[adamanteus]

He certainly looks like it!:D

[jitami]

So nice to see Muttley!!! Love that pink stripe... my guys don't have that! If he ever needs a place to stay he can always crash with his brothers ;)

btw, Frick and Frack both eat xs pinkies without problem... in fact, Frick ate two of them yesterday and chased them with some salmon jello! This boy continues to eat like this and I may be asking all of you to play the sexing game again! lol

[infernalis]

Muttly is the hybrid.

[infernalis]

A super rare find in my back yard... A native Smooth Green snake. Enjoy.

http://www.thamfriends.com/green/woods.jpg

http://www.thamfriends.com/green/woods1.jpg

http://www.thamfriends.com/green/woods2.jpg

http://www.thamfriends.com/green/woods3.jpg

[ConcinusMan]

Oh wow wayne, awsome! Are you sure you didn't just take Limon out for a photo shoot? Did you really just find that snake in your yard? If so.... that's awesome!

[ConcinusMan]

All I know, is that bullfrog tadpoles are huge. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Bullfrog_Tadpole.jpg

Usually, but that all depends. There's an interesting adaptation they have. In warmer water with low oxygen, they are prompted to metamorphisis sooner, and at a much smaller size. In cooler water with plenty of oxygen, they can take up to three years before becoming adults, and of course, much larger young frogs. I did a little experiment to prove this, by hatching eggs and keeping them in to different tanks under different conditions. In the warm deoxygenated water, I had tadpoles as young as 3 months old, and only about one inch long, turn into frogs. Their siblings, in the cool oxygenated water just continued to become larger tadpoles. Most turned to frogs during their second year as a large tadpole. A few didn't turn into adults until their 3rd year, and the process (sprouting back legs, then front, etc.) was very slow.

The small one's that turned early, were frogs just one month after sprouting their first legs. Pretty interesting I thought. Sounds like an adaptation that would allow them to survive if the eggs were laid in temporary water that was quickly drying up.


I know, old post, but I thought you might find that interesting. I did.

[infernalis]

Oh wow wayne, awsome! Are you sure you didn't just take Limon out for a photo shoot?

Big difference in size.

http://www.thamfriends.com/green/pose6.jpg

http://www.danceswithreptiles.com/limon/samlime.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Great photos, Wayne.
A very beautiful find.

[infernalis]

Great photos, Wayne.
A very beautiful find.

Thanks Steve. First one I have seen in nearly a decade.


Usually, but that all depends. There's an interesting adaptation they have. In warmer water with low oxygen, they are prompted to metamorphisis sooner, and at a much smaller size. In cooler water with plenty of oxygen, they can take up to three years before becoming adults, and of course, much larger young frogs. I did a little experiment to prove this, by hatching eggs and keeping them in to different tanks under different conditions. In the warm deoxygenated water, I had tadpoles as young as 3 months old, and only about one inch long, turn into frogs. Their siblings, in the cool oxygenated water just continued to become larger tadpoles. Most turned to frogs during their second year as a large tadpole. A few didn't turn into adults until their 3rd year, and the process (sprouting back legs, then front, etc.) was very slow.

The small one's that turned early, were frogs just one month after sprouting their first legs. Pretty interesting I thought. Sounds like an adaptation that would allow them to survive if the eggs were laid in temporary water that was quickly drying up.


I know, old post, but I thought you might find that interesting. I did.

Watching this one unfold in person, we are experiencing a dry spell and all the water holes are drying up, so the bullfrog tads are morphing really small and quite early to compensate.

[ConcinusMan]

I wish I knew of a spot like that...

I mean, shallow pools filled with amphibian larvae... a virtual smorgasbord for my snakes. (of course, I would freeze them for a couple of months first)

I used to know of places like that but they're all gone now. Fed a concinnus pair for 20 years like that. There was no shortage of WC food for them. Now all I can find is places with lots of small bullfrogs but they're too darn hard to catch!

About the green snake... I bet even though you haven't found them in a long time, they were there, very well hidden. I've had a similar experience with rubber boas in my county. They are here, they are plentiful in some places, yet in spite of that, I've found very few over the years.

Those snakes you got there are soooo awesome. Just love the look of them.

[infernalis]

All I know, is that bullfrog tadpoles are huge. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Bullfrog_Tadpole.jpg


According to the wikipedia article, their metamorphosis takes 12-24 months.


It's true.

November 26 and there are still tadpoles in a standing pool out back.

I just got one for scenting purposes with a net.

They must go down into the mud over the winter. I'm not sure how they survive freezing, the water pool is too shallow to not freeze solid.

[infernalis]

Saw this Eastern behind my barn about 15 minutes ago..

This little one posed for me before leaving.

http://www.thamnophis.co/herp/1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/herp/2.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/herp/3.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/herp/4.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/herp/5.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Glad to see you are getting some snake activity at your place.;)

[ConcinusMan]

Cool. I can't get over how awesome that green snake is. Makes me want one!

[Mommy2many]

It's true.

November 26 and there are still tadpoles in a standing pool out back.

I just got one for scenting purposes with a net.

They must go down into the mud over the winter. I'm not sure how they survive freezing, the water pool is too shallow to not freeze solid.


We had the same thing the two years before that! Tadpoles in November! In the kids pool outside. They just never grew. In fact, we had emptied the pool and brought them all inside in the hopes of at least getting them to the frog stage. We had luck with that part but they would die soon afterwards.

[ConcinusMan]

They must go down into the mud over the winter. I'm not sure how they survive freezing, the water pool is too shallow to not freeze solid.

You pretty much have it right. They survive the same way turtles and the adult frogs do. Somewhere down there, deep in the mud, it does not freeze solid. Decaying organic matter produces heat. Go deep enough into the mud and it stays above freezing even if all the water is frozen solid. Just like turtles, their need for oxygen is essentially zero at those cold temperatures, and any minute oxygen needs for frogs/tadpoles can be taken care of by absorbing oxygen through their skin and turtles metabolism essentially stops and they just don't need oxygen. Same way a would be drowning victim survives longer without brain damage if the water is extremely cold. Bullfrogs (and other amphibians) have a sort of "antifreeze" in their blood that prevents their fluids from forming ice crystals which would expand and burst cells. In other words, they can survive being frozen solid and being essentially clinically dead. No respiration or heartbeat.

[infernalis]

Glad to see you are getting some snake activity at your place.;)

So far 1. Dekayi, 1. Garter & 1. Milk Snake (Triangulum)

[Mommy2many]

That's 3 more than me:D

[infernalis]

Saw a nice milk in my chip pile....

http://www.thamnophis.co/herp/milk1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/herp/milk2.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/herp/milk3.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/herp/milk4.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/herp/flowers.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/herp/lilacs.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful lilac.

[RedSidedSPR]

Is he in the tree? I cant see him.

Nice find.

[RedSidedSPR]

If so it reminds me of this guy. Black racer.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/chucknkelly/CameraPics018.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/chucknkelly/CameraPics017.jpg

[infernalis]

Is he in the tree? I cant see him.

Nice find.

No he's not in the tree, I just couldn't ignore the flowers.

[RedSidedSPR]

Oh... shucks. That's a minute of my life wasted looking for something in the tree.:D

[ConcinusMan]

Well since we're talking lilac I thought I'd throw this in. My backyard today. Smells great!

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3619/lilac001large.jpg

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7663/lilac002large.jpg

[infernalis]

Don't it suck, all that work for one whole week of nice smells... 51 weeks of nothing.

[Mommy2many]

Still, all in all, a most wonderful scent:)

[ConcinusMan]

I could cut just a cluster like the lower picture shows, and put it in a vase in my living room or bathroom and it will exude fragrance throughout the room for days. The bloom season is short though. 3-4 weeks in late spring. By June my lillies bloom and those are very powerful. One or two cut blossoms in a bowl of water will exude a very sweet smell that travels long distance through the house, for up to a week.:) Beats the heck out of "Glade" any day.

[Mommy2many]

I love lilacs. We had to cut down our tree because it was more than half dead. Maybe I'll plant another...:D

[ConcinusMan]

You know, it's funny. We only have purple ones here but in Reno/Sparks area, the whole landscape comes to life with lilac blooms in 4 or 5 different colors every spring.

[infernalis]

The whole yard is amazing right now, the apple trees are blossomed, The lilacs are full bloom, the crab apple is full of flowers and my pine trees are all making baby pine cones.

[RedSidedSPR]

Mine too. The barn is crushed, woods is flattened, Bobcats just left, the whole yard is literally a mud-pit... BEAUTIFUL DAY!:D:rolleyes:

[Mommy2many]

I never really noticed how many flowering trees everyone around here has. There are the lilacs, the tulip trees, japanese cherry, weeping willow, forsythia, and the pink and white dogwood. Absolutely beautiful.

[infernalis]

While walking the dogs tonight....

http://www.thamnophis.co/Milks/Milk1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/Milks/milk2.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/Milks/milk3.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/Milks/milk4.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

That would make me want to walk the dog more often.;)

Great looking snakes. How were their attitudes?

[infernalis]

Actually the gloves Dorothy had on were quite unnecessary. I picked them both up without incident.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Great find! They look pretty big too.

[RedSidedSPR]

Big ones too. Nice.

[infernalis]

The smaller of the two was still hiding under the board today, I held her for a short while, she is full of eggs, she was lumpy inside. ;)

So I put the board back down and gently let her crawl back up under it.

She never attempted to bite or musk either.

[charles parenteau]

So beautiful!Eastern milk snake are one of my favorit snake!!tanks for sharing!!

[infernalis]

Got some more shots of wild specimens. After I first lifted the board
up, the milk snake became defensive, her tail was buzzing the ground and she held her head in this "cocked and ready" stance like she was going lash at me at any moment.

The garter snake just sat there chilling out the whole time like nothing was even going on.
http://www.reptard.info/2011Herp/duo.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/2011Herp/face.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/2011Herp/garterSnake.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/2011Herp/keels.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/2011Herp/milk.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/2011Herp/stare.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

As always, nice photos Wayne.

[infernalis]

Took chomper outside today.....

He spent nearly all day back by the creek eating slugs, snails and worms.

He threw a tantrum when we brought him back in the house, he was all puffed up and hissing at us. Soon as he got in his cage, he parked it right under the basking lamps and went to sleep.

Look close on his snout, you can see the orange slime from the big slugs he was eating.

http://www.reptard.info/sav/sav1.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/sav/sav2.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/sav/sav3.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/sav/sav4.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/sav/sav5.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/sav/sav6.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

AWESOME! Love it. Nice pics. (and nice avatar:D)

[kibakiba]

Awww, He's a big spoiled boy. :) He's very adorable!

He looks like a great art subject... Would you mind if I draw him? :D

[guidofatherof5]

Chomper is the bomb.
Thanks for posting these awesome photos.
Great talking with you today.;)

[infernalis]

Awww, He's a big spoiled boy. :) He's very adorable!

He looks like a great art subject... Would you mind if I draw him? :D


I would be honored, may I use your drawing on my web sites?

[kibakiba]

Of course. I'm not the owner of the picture, technically... ;)

Might take me a little while, I'll be doing little bits of it in between lots of paper work :)

[RedSidedSPR]

What kind of monitor is it? I want one!:D

I may draw him too. I draw a lot of animal pictures, he looks fun!

[kibakiba]

I just started on the 4th one, he looks totally cute in that one.... I've forgotten how hard it is to draw reptiles and get the proportions right. :D

[infernalis]

Chomper is a Savannah monitor...

Absolute minimum requirements before I'd ever recommend one.

a cage 8 feet wide, 4 feet deep, 4 feet tall filled with 2 feet of clay soil.

A functioning roach colony, and deep pockets to pay the huge electric bill from keeping the cage hot and preferably own your own home since most landlords would never allow one.

Life expectancy when properly cared for is in the neighbourhood of 25-30 years.

[kibakiba]

There goes one of my boyfriends goes of a large lizard ;) I hate roaches and would never allow them near me. Maybe one day I won't be scared of bugs, but maybe the monitors cuteness would win me over... Haha.

[infernalis]

I hate roaches and would never allow them near me. Maybe one day I won't be scared of bugs, but maybe the monitors cuteness would win me over... Haha.

They are very interesting creatures, I enjoy my roaches....

http://www.reptard.info/photo/roach.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/photo/roach1.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/photo/roach2.jpg

[kibakiba]

I have a mild phobia of insects. I have since a kid when a "water skipper" was in my "kiddie pool" and stung me 3 times. It looked like a beetle connected to boat oars. I also ate 3 beetles when I was a kid, mistaking them for chips.. which were in my other hand. My family wont let me forget that one.

[infernalis]

I have a mild phobia of insects. I have since a kid when a "water skipper" was in my "kiddie pool" and stung me 3 times. It looked like a beetle connected to boat oars. I also ate 3 beetles when I was a kid, mistaking them for chips.. which were in my other hand. My family wont let me forget that one.


I honestly never used to let my roaches walk on me, until I saw pictures of women doing it.. so I had to, and it's not really that bad.

It still grosses me out when my little gecko eats them, he squishes them first, it's nasty.

I just noticed, in two months this thread will be three years old.:cool:

[kibakiba]

A friend showed me her tokay gecko eating a pinky. He ripped out the stomach and ate the insides, then proceeded to toss it around the tank, smearing blood around it. It was gross. I cant imagine a one squishing cockroaches. Ick.

Happy early birthday to the thread :D

[d_virginiana]

A friend showed me her tokay gecko eating a pinky. He ripped out the stomach and ate the insides, then proceeded to toss it around the tank, smearing blood around it. It was gross. I cant imagine a one squishing cockroaches. Ick.

Happy early birthday to the thread :D

Aww, how sweet :rolleyes:. They always look so innocent and docile in the stores... It'd be a shock to see one acting so predatory!

[ConcinusMan]

They are very interesting creatures, I enjoy my roaches....

http://www.reptard.info/photo/roach.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/photo/roach1.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/photo/roach2.jpg

And to think of all the effort I went through to get rid of roaches in the past. I'm sorry but I don't see them as anything more than filthy pests or perhaps filthy pests and lizard/frog food.

[infernalis]

And to think of all the effort I went through to get rid of roaches in the past. I'm sorry but I don't see them as anything more than filthy pests or perhaps filthy pests and lizard/frog food.


Interesting fact... of all the species of roaches on the planet only Less than 1% are pests, 99%+ survive indoors only as pets.:cool:

[ConcinusMan]

And I'm 100% sure they won't be surviving in my house.:p

[infernalis]

I know, I'm strange... I have rats, mice, snakes, lizards, Worms & roaches, to some people all or any of the above means calling the exterminator.

[ConcinusMan]

To itch his own.:p

http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/2010/06/man-scratching-butt.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

Chomper is a Savannah monitor...

Absolute minimum requirements before I'd ever recommend one.

a cage 8 feet wide, 4 feet deep, 4 feet tall filled with 2 feet of clay soil.

A functioning roach colony, and deep pockets to pay the huge electric bill from keeping the cage hot and preferably own your own home since most landlords would never allow one.

Life expectancy when properly cared for is in the neighbourhood of 25-30 years.

Never mind:rolleyes:


I just started on the 4th one, he looks totally cute in that one.... I've forgotten how hard it is to draw reptiles and get the proportions right. :D

They are the hardest animal to draw imo.

[infernalis]

Never mind:rolleyes:.

Knowing that 99.99 percent of all imported specimens are dead before they even reach their prime, I take this subject quite seriously.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

Sure it's gravid and not just recently fed?

Looks like both to me.

[RedSidedSPR]

Knowing that 99.99 percent of all imported specimens are dead before they even reach their prime, I take this subject quite seriously.

Right, i get it.

I do still want one, i just have NO way to keep one.

[ConcinusMan]

Knowing that 99.99 percent of all imported specimens are dead before they even reach their prime, I take this subject quite seriously.

I hear you there Wayne. I think that only a small fraction of people who try to keep monitors are actually qualified to do so. I for one recognize that I am not one of them. Personally, I don't think they should be kept as "pets" any more than a saltwater croc should be. Just my opinion.

[infernalis]

I hear you there Wayne. I think that only a small fraction of people who try to keep monitors are actually qualified to do so. I for one recognize that I am not one of them. Personally, I don't think they should be kept as "pets" any more than a saltwater croc should be. Just my opinion.


I agree wholeheartedly on that... Bottom line is that this one specimen is far better off here than the next most likely customer to have bought him.

[RedSidedSPR]

They're still awesome

[ConcinusMan]

Even more awesome when they live where they are supposed to live and here's a hint: It's not in cages.

[infernalis]

Even more awesome when they live where they are supposed to live and here's a hint: It's not in cages.

Like I said I agree, now tell me this, had I not purchased him would all importing stop??

Where exactly were your Concinnus' just before they "moved in with you"??? (Hint: not in cages)

[ConcinusMan]

Like I said I agree, now tell me this, had I not purchased him would all importing stop??

Nope. But it would if everyone else did the same and everyone else has the same argument. "It won't stop just because I don't buy it"



Where exactly were your Concinnus' just before they "moved in with you"??? (Hint: not in cages)


Knowing I would get exactly that comment, I already had a response prepared: "Irrelevant". I wasn't talking about garter snakes.

[infernalis]

Knowing I would get exactly that comment, I already had a response prepared: "Irrelevant". I wasn't talking about garter snakes.

Irrelevant - Keeping wild animals captive is keeping wild animals captive no matter how you chose to look at it, spell it or justify it.

They are not "domestic livestock" none of them.

Next.......

[infernalis]

Feeding time.... The blackneck girl took off and plunged right into the pinkie stash.

http://www.thamnophis.us/shoot/BNpink1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/shoot/BNpinks.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/shoot/swallow.jpg

The Melanistic wandering is not shy about eating either...

http://www.thamnophis.us/shoot/MW1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/shoot/mouth.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/shoot/IceT.jpg

[kibakiba]

Very cool :)

[guidofatherof5]

Your Black-necked photos reminds me of an old saying.

"Don't leave the fox in charge of the hen house":D

[RedSidedSPR]

How many of the pinkies did they ate out of there?

Love the wandering!

[RdubSnider]

Really cool. I love that black neck

[infernalis]

How many of the pinkies did they ate out of there?

Love the wandering!


The wandering ate 4 jumbo pinks, the blackneck ate 3 XS pinks.

[RedSidedSPR]

Whoa.:D

I'm just gonna say this again, because everytime i see a pic i have to say it..
I LOVE THAT (or any) MELANISTIC!!

and that the b-neck

[d_virginiana]

That melanistic is just astounding :)
Haha, I like how you have that little snake-buffet set up.

[ConcinusMan]

Irrelevant - Keeping wild animals captive is keeping wild animals captive no matter how you chose to look at it, spell it or justify it.

They are not "domestic livestock" none of them.

Next.......

When I said "irrelevant" I meant irrelevant to the point I was trying to make. You're making an entirely different point. Just because one keeps garter snakes in a tank does not suggest that he should also keep, for example, an alligator in his bathtub "no matter how you chose to look at it, spell it or justify it."

[infernalis]

Keeping a Savannah monitor properly, is not an alligator in a bathtub.

[infernalis]

more wild snakes from out back....

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/nice1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/tongue.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/trio.jpg

[infernalis]

More......

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/blue.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/dk.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/duo.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/gart.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/milkie.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/milksnake.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Looks like a lot of happy quests at the "Board Hotel"

[infernalis]

The milk snake was a rescue, A neighbor stopped by and said they had a "spotted adder" and they were going to kill it, so I brought it home and released it out by what is left of my barn.

Plenty of mice, moles and voles to munch on.

[ConcinusMan]

Looks like a lot of happy quests at the "Board Hotel"

Executive "flats" for discerning guests.:D

[ConcinusMan]

A neighbor stopped by and said they had a "spotted adder" and they were going to kill it

Humorous (at the silly stupidity) and yet tragic that this still happens.

[infernalis]

That board draws in so many snakes it's awesome. I flipped it once to find 8 snakes all together under it it.

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/pair.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/plywood.jpg
Look close, there is 2 garter snakes together in this pic..
http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/snakes.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.us/snakers/newt.jpg

[Spankenstyne]

More great pics!

[RedSidedSPR]

Nice pics. Wish i could find snakes like that. I have boards set up everywhere. Never see anything.

The milk is great. So's the garters.

[infernalis]

This spirited little guy did not like his picture taken one bit, I got tagged a couple times taking these shots.

http://www.thamnophis.co/7211/wicked6.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/7211/wicked7.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/7211/wicked8.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/7211/wicked1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/7211/wicked2.jpg

[infernalis]

Less agressive pics...

http://www.thamnophis.co/7211/darko.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/7211/darko2.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/7211/darko3.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/7211/rust1.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/7211/rust2.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.co/7211/rust3.jpg

[flickerfriend]

I love the tongue flicker!

[Mommy2many]

He's trying to tell you that he is a big ferocious serpent!

[guidofatherof5]

Attitude, attitude, attitude.
You gotta love that.

[RedSidedSPR]

Awesome, man. Love those open-mouthed pics.


Attitude, attitude, attitude.
You gotta love that.

And i sure as heck do.

[infernalis]

Getting my first big snake - a 7 foot adult carpet python, The current owner is going off to college and has to give her up.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa100/MotoMax777/_DSC7031.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

NIce!!

[guidofatherof5]

Beautiful snake Wayne.
She is in good hands.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

awesome! I have had Kisses, my largest carpet, since I was 16-17ish. I love carpet pythons... they are like the perfect python. Not too big, not too small, not too boring, active and curious, and the ugliest they will ever be is the day they are born. Not like those darned ball pythons that are born gorgeous and brown out like turds!!! :p

I now have 4 carpets:

Kisses
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/b8377128.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/P1140390.jpg

Bob
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/P1140442.jpg

Awesomesauce
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/P1140556.jpg

And the newest gal, Persephone
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll86/aSnakeLovinBabe/001-Copy-Copy.jpg

[Mommy2many]

Awesome snakes! Glad you could take him, Wayne!

[infernalis]

Shannon, Persephone is stunning.

[RedSidedSPR]

I'm looking at him again, and he really is. That yellOw and black, is just awesome. I don't think I've ever seen a carpet python like that.

[d_virginiana]

That snake is just amazing!

[infernalis]

I just had to share this.. Yesterday I was down by the creek just walking around when I happen to notice a nice little eastern garter, approximately a second year snake.

I crouched down and kept eye contact on that snake for quite a while, it crawled up over several downed tree limbs, through some rocks and grass, periodically stopping to assess it's surroundings.

Crouching there watching this free roaming wild snake go about it's activities was really fascinating.. I kept my movements to a minimum so I don't think the snake saw me at all.

This little one covered a lot of ground quickly, and it honestly looked as if it was exploring, taking in the sights, possibly looking for that perfect basking spot or meal.

After several minutes the snake wandered into some brush where it blended in perfectly just as I lost eye contact.

Oh and the day before I caught a yearling water snake taking advantage of the receding water in the creek. Pockets of minnows are getting trapped in small pools, easy pickings for fish eaters.

[RedSidedSPR]

That's cool! I've followed a green snake and it seemed the same way. Neat story.

[snakehill]

Carpet Pythons are my favorite python too!!! :) I miss Lance!

[Hornets23]

Pretty sweet wayne!

[guidofatherof5]

Sounds like a good time Wayne.

[Mrs N1ntndo]

Where can you get green snakes. I heard that we are sopposed to have them here but I havent seen any. I want to catch one and keep it. I saw one in a garter snake book (i forgot the exact name ) but that one is so awesome. I think it might be cause my favorite color is green.

[kibakiba]

From what I've heard, green snakes are extremely hard to take care of. I think I read something about them dying unexpectedly. That might have been something else, though.

[infernalis]

Where can you get green snakes. I heard that we are sopposed to have them here but I havent seen any. I want to catch one and keep it. I saw one in a garter snake book (i forgot the exact name ) but that one is so awesome. I think it might be cause my favorite color is green.

Green snakes are a heartbreaking disappointment.

They all have special dietary requirements that people cannot seem to copy in captivity.

Then they die well before old age sets in.

[RedSidedSPR]

Well, not necessarily. They can be kept. They are very hard to keep, and only have 3-5 year life-span, but it's possible to keep them. But I wouldnt reccommend them to anybody.

[BLUESIRTALIS]

The problem with green snakes is most people try to feed them crickets all the time. I kept one in a huge tank with lots of plants and branches and it fed on smaller crickets, roaches, and hairless caterpillars and i had it for 6 years before i traded it for a garter to a friend. I think the exosceleton on a diet full of crickets all the time is just too hard on them. The hairless caterpillars are the way to go but they are not easy to get all the time. Thats why they are found mostly in trees because they love caterpillars.

[infernalis]

Well, not necessarily. They can be kept. They are very hard to keep, and only have 3-5 year life-span, but it's possible to keep them. But I wouldnt reccommend them to anybody.


Please enlighten us with your wisdom and experience.. How many have you successfully (or even unsuccessfully) kept?

http://www.reptard.info/rich/LR.jpg

[infernalis]

The problem with green snakes is most people try to feed them crickets all the time. I kept one in a huge tank with lots of plants and branches and it fed on smaller crickets, roaches, and hairless caterpillars and i had it for 6 years before i traded it for a garter to a friend. I think the exosceleton on a diet full of crickets all the time is just too hard on them. The hairless caterpillars are the way to go but they are not easy to get all the time. Thats why they are found mostly in trees because they love caterpillars.

Now this is some useful information... Thanks ;)

[RedSidedSPR]

That's all I could have said. Don't only feed crickets etc.

Ive never kept one, but I have so many near me, I learn a lot about them, including captive care. I know people who have them.

I was just saying that, even though it's kind difficult, they can be kept successfully, to their expected life-span. (5 or so years)

[Stefan-A]

I see what you did there, Wayne.

[infernalis]

Later on I will post the video I made today.. chomper went swimming, and a big water snake just happened to show up. Great fun.


http://www.reptard.info/tuday/chomp1.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/tuday/chomp2.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/tuday/chomp3.jpg

http://www.reptard.info/tuday/chomp4.jpg

A bug ran up the tree

http://www.reptard.info/tuday/chomp5.jpg

Look in the mirror of the truck..

http://www.reptard.info/tuday/chomp6.jpg

[RedSidedSPR]

Awesome! I love the one in the car!

Cant wait for the video!

[katach]

What a sweet little face. Does he live up to his name?

[infernalis]

What a sweet little face. Does he live up to his name?

Yes he does..


Cant wait for the video!

Here you go...


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[jitami]

Very cool, Wayne! Do you ever worry that he'll overpower that leash at some point? I know you don't really try to control him with it anyway, but well.... I worry about these things. I'm a mom, it's what I do. lol

[infernalis]

He does try and slip out, just like any child, never take your eyes off him.

[RedSidedSPR]

Awesome Wayne! If he did try and "overpower" the leash is he strong enough?

[infernalis]

Awesome Wayne! If he did try and "overpower" the leash is he strong enough?


It's a lizard leash, but I bet he could break the clips right off the cord if he really wanted to.

I only use the leash to follow along behind him.

Only once in all this time have I ever had to yank back on it, someone started s dirt bike nearby and the engine spooked him.

and of course, I never take him anywhere near pre existing burrows in the ground.

[RedSidedSPR]

Cause he looks strong!

Yeah burrows would he bad.:p

[katach]

Very cool videos! Thanks for sharing!

[infernalis]

I just re-read this whole thread from the beginning, The husbandry practices for our Savannah were all wrong, I feel really fortunate that Chomper remained healthy through the learning process.

Anyone else who reads through this, PLEASE do not follow any of what I said back then.

[infernalis]

So I was feeding the garter snakes tonight when who should come over and steal their chopped up trout....

http://www.ssnakess.info/herps/troutchomp.jpg

He just slammed a whole pound of shrimp, so now he wants a nap, under the red cart.

http://www.ssnakess.info/herps/chompnap.jpg