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Zephyr
07-14-2008, 10:42 AM
My other butler's popped a minute ago, and I got to witness the miracle of birth FINALLY. :D
Pics when she's through, I believe there's around 20 in this litter! :D

Zephyr
07-14-2008, 10:47 AM
And... Now the eastern's popping.

Garter_Gertie
07-14-2008, 10:49 AM
HOLY CROW!!!!!!!!!!! You've a busy day ahead of you! Heartest CONGRATULATIONS!

jitami
07-14-2008, 10:50 AM
Wow, fun stuff Kyle. Good luck with the babies!

Stefan-A
07-14-2008, 10:54 AM
Congratulations, Kyle. :)

Zephyr
07-14-2008, 11:11 AM
WAIT A MINUTE.
I took the eastern and put her in a separate container, next thing I know my mom's screaming there's baby in the other bucket.

So...
Not eastern babies...
Or checkered albino babies...
My hybrids came.
They look just like silver easterns!
Pics when I get everything settled!

GartersRock
07-14-2008, 11:13 AM
Eastern albino checkereds? Where they intentional hybrids?

jitami
07-14-2008, 11:14 AM
I wanna see! I wanna see! I may wanna HAVE! :)

anji1971
07-14-2008, 11:17 AM
Whoa.............congrats, Kyle! You'll be hopping for a bit!;)

Zephyr
07-14-2008, 11:20 AM
They were unintentional.
And I checked on the last hybrid born. All the others are healthy, and very large, but this one looks dead, has a kinked neck and is missing an eye.
In this situation, I agree on Stefan and Jame's view: Plated food.

Zephyr
07-14-2008, 11:39 AM
Anyways, with all the chaos here I haven't had an accurate count of the babies.
I'd say there's around 20 butler's and aroudn 12 of the hybrids, who are actually very pretty slate gray/silverblue color.

GartersRock
07-14-2008, 11:39 AM
Sorry to hear that. =(

Can't wait to see pics of the butlers!

jitami
07-14-2008, 11:50 AM
um, um, um, Kyle... um, have you heard me go on and on about how much I looove the grey/silver garters... ask Don and Amanda :) Um... we can work out breeding/non-breeding issues... and I just got new set ups which could be made ready for babies easily... um... um... ok, starting to feel a bit like Gertie here, only I don't think she ever had to beg...lol... I'm not above begging for silver babies, tho!

Zephyr
07-14-2008, 12:16 PM
XD I understand.
What I'm thinking about doing is writing up a binding contract stating the babies will never be sold or traded, and if the owner can no longer care for them they must be EXTERMINATED.
Also gotta give them each a number to keep track of them.
But I would most certainly give a few to you. *After Don's had his pick of course. lol
He did contact me first. XDDD*

jitami
07-14-2008, 12:37 PM
*After Don's had his pick of course. lol
He did contact me first. XDDD*

lol...figures :p Don you will save me some won't you? Something pretty? ;)

Sounds very reasonable Kyle. I'd be happy to give your babies a home for life and sign a contract saying so. We do similar contracts with dogs and I can give you dog breeder references if you'd like. I'm good for my word! I'm getting excited :D

infernalis
07-14-2008, 12:55 PM
Wow Kyle, Need me to catch any other food items?:D

Some of the eggs I got you may hatch into snails, The snails hang closely with the slugs, and the eggs look the same.

Zephyr
07-14-2008, 12:57 PM
Wow Kyle, Need me to catch any other food items?:D

Some of the eggs I got you may hatch into snails, The snails hang closely with the slugs, and the eggs look the same.My clown loaches will be happy to hear that. :D

infernalis
07-14-2008, 01:00 PM
Sometime you gotta watch a dekay peel the snail from its shell.

Dekays have a special set of teeth for pulling snails out of the shell.

Xena can shuck snails fast, like 3 or 4 in a minute.

I got like a thousand snails out back, I'll grab up some adults, it won't change the shipping any.

Zephyr
07-14-2008, 01:09 PM
Sometime you gotta watch a dekay peel the snail from its shell.

Dekays have a special set of teeth for pulling snails out of the shell.

Xena can shuck snails fast, like 3 or 4 in a minute.

I got like a thousand snails out back, I'll grab up some adults, it won't change the shipping any.
Oh sure! :D
And... uh...
Any frog/toadlets are appreciated if possible. XD

crzy_kevo
07-14-2008, 01:32 PM
omg congrats kyle you got a lot of babies on your hands now
pics please :D

Snake lover 3-25
07-14-2008, 02:47 PM
wow congrats!!!!:D:D and i think it's good that you're giving people a chance to be trusted!!!!!:D:D

Sid
07-14-2008, 03:26 PM
Congratulations, Kyle:D

ssssnakeluvr
07-14-2008, 05:45 PM
Sweet!!!!! Can't wait for my babies!!!!!! yea, I can share some..:D

SpyrotheGartersnake
07-14-2008, 06:45 PM
congrats Kyle!

count dewclaw
07-14-2008, 06:49 PM
Congrats! Pics, please!

Zephyr
07-14-2008, 07:32 PM
Back you vicious animals back! XD
I do have some pics from earlier though. None of the butler's yet: too many period and too many trying to escape. XD
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5347/img0681fr4.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5396/img0682xe2.jpg

And one of the "deformed" baby. It was actually alive; don't worry, the blood is from the egg sack.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4296/img0673rw5.jpg

ssssnakeluvr
07-14-2008, 08:35 PM
interesting photo of the stillborn..looks like a deformed lower jaw.....had a w/c red sider from Kansas that had babies, 3 had the short jaw...had to put them down..:(

Zephyr
07-14-2008, 08:36 PM
And a missing eye. x.x

ssssnakeluvr
07-14-2008, 08:38 PM
that sucks these were all ok except for the short jaw.....:eek:

Zephyr
07-14-2008, 08:40 PM
And the kinked spine. Almost as if all the genetic deformities were thrown on the poor little guy. ):

jitami
07-14-2008, 08:53 PM
awww, they're so sweet Kyle!

So sorry about the deformed baby. That would be tough :(

Snake lover 3-25
07-14-2008, 09:05 PM
awww cute!!!:D

sorry about the deformed one though.... but ot was alive???? did you put it out of it's misery??:confused:

Zephyr
07-14-2008, 09:07 PM
awww cute!!!:D

sorry about the deformed one though.... but ot was alive???? did you put it out of it's misery??:confused:
Yeah, it was alive. Barely.
I simply did a quick decap then gave it to Hulio Fernandez the plated lizard.

Snake lover 3-25
07-14-2008, 09:11 PM
that's good.... at least it went fast.... poor little guy....... i'd have to make my brother do it....:(

Lori P
07-15-2008, 06:05 AM
You've been busy Kyle!! Good heavens!! So sorry about the little deformed one. So sad.

I'll also provide a permanent, non breeding home if you need for a couple, but let the others have their picks first. :-)