Neighbors think your nuts?

[infernalis]

No matter how discreet we try and be, sooner or later the rumors will start. Maybe a neighbor stops by to borrow a cup of sugar, or the kids bring home a friend, whatever... once the word hits the street look out.

If anyone recalls last Saturday, we had almost the whole town rubber necking.. it's not often a helicopter lands in town, and it almost always seems to be here when it does.

One very concerned citizen spoke out and stated that "goofy b'stard" has 50 snakes in his house, and I'm concerned for the neighborhood children, if one of his snakes ever got loose, it could kill someone!

Anyone else have concerned neighbors that worry about your snakes getting loose and terrorizing the town?

http://www.reformedsniper.net/waldo2.jpg

[Elliot]

LOL!!! Nice picture! My neighbors stay away. We don't have a good relationship you could say. :rolleyes:

[Garter_Gertie]

Nah. I live alone (and have no kids other than those with whiskers), but I do rent. That's one reason I want to go the terrarium route. However... I'm thinking the basking light's gonna give things away if/when workmen come in. :(

[Garter_Gertie]

Dekay... "Wanna see my snake, little girl?" takes on a whole new meaning with us, huh? :D

[infernalis]

LOL!!! Nice picture! My neighbors stay away. We don't have a good relationship you could say. :rolleyes:

Dude, I swear that I live in a town where there is only one sane person.

A couple months ago, I received a letter from the town board demanding to know what species I keep. On one hand, I want to send them pictures of my menacing animals, on the other, it's no ones business but my own.

I have yet to reply......

P.S. I have even had to charge one neighbor with trespass & disorderly conduct.

[Elliot]

Well I'm not allowed to fish in the lake anymore because the neighbor says I'll drown and we'll sue them. They also stuck an arrow in their yard and said I shot it at them (it was a junior arrow and I shoot a 70# hunting bow :rolleyes:) and they also said I was using their house as a pellet rifle target.

[Sid]

Well Wayne, my neighbors react the opposite. While they want nothing to do with snakes, they are glad I do. Most do not visit here, but they call me to come to their house ever time they see a snake.:D:D:D

[infernalis]

I have one that calls me to remove milk snakes A.K.A. the dreaded "spotted adder"

The others would rather behead the snake and shake the carcass at me while shouting rude things.....

One lady asked if they were poison, my reply was "I never plan to eat them, so why do I care?"

[Lori P]

I can't even begin to describe my insane neighbors (but luckily, they are pretty far away) but here's an example of the kind of crap they do: the evil old lady called the sheriff a couple of years ago complaining that there were "too many" buzzards living on our property. Buzzards, you know, the wild kind? Yeah. She told the sheriff that we must have dead animals everywhere and the buzzards were coming over onto her 15 acres and "ruining the trees". Seriously. The sheriff made a point of explaining to her shotgun happy arse that buzzards are protected and she can't go around shooting them.

I hung a huge sign on my front gate that read:

Buzzards Welcome
The more the merrier
BYOC (Bring your own carrion)

I have pics of it at home. :-)

[jitami]

Too funny Lori! Love it! I only have one *&^$# who lives behind me. You think snakes are bad PR, try GIANT black dogs... and I can't keep them inside in a tank either <gg> On the other hand, the family two houses down has a huge python in their back yard. LOL I don't think I have to worry about anyone freaking out about my little garter snake! :)

[ssssnakeluvr]

LOL! thats funny. I got to chat with my supervisor at work thanks to a neighbor. I am an animal control officer. a neighbor called in about my snakes....they already knew about my critters and told the lady everything I had was legal and there's no issue with me. everyone at work comes to me with reptiles anyway for id purposes...

[Lori P]

Tami, huge black dogs... newfies?? Danes??

And, python in the back yard? Like in a permanent outdoor enclosure?

[jitami]

Cool job, Don. I've gotten to meet two of our local AC Officers thanks to my neighbor.... sigh... " sure, come on in, yes they have fresh water, yes they have food, what's that? You don't think it was them barking? Yeah, me either. Oh, and they look like they're in good weight and condition? Can you please let the neighbor know that? Again? Thanks... sigh..." She once complained because my dog was out in the rain(for a few minutes!) without cover. They don't have cover outside because they don't stay outside. They go out to potty and then back in to the couch. She called because they were barking. They weren't. She called because my male looked skinny. He's 37" tall at the shoulder and they do go through a gangly period at about 12-18 months old, but he was totally healthy and being fed 6 cups of super premium food 3 times a day. He's getting older now and has a lick granuloma(open sore that he won't stop licking... fairly common in dogs, but totally sucks) and I'm just waiting for AC to show up again. It's actually been a couple of years now. They're over due <gg>

[jitami]

Yeah, Danes and my boy is on the large side for a dane. And Yep, a permanent enclosure with a filtered pond, etc. The teenage boys built it and they did a pretty decent job. I have no idea if it's the perfect conditions for their snake, but they've had him set up back there for a few years now, so must be working out ok. Oh, and, imagine that, they're the family that likes my dogs, too.

[Lumpy]

I may be alone in this, but in my way of thinking, medicine goes down better with a little honey.

For neighbors who are by nature "nosey", the less I reveal the better. I think any snake conversation with them would just add fuel to the fire. So I avoid it. I know nothing good will come of it, so why hand them the gun AND the bullets.

Although I like snakes and feel they have gotten a bad wrap, some people just don't want anything to do with them and feel all snakes are hostile and harmful. It's bad information I know, but I have to be sensitive to it. Coming across as anything arrogant or condecending isn't going to help the cause. So it's not a bad idea to get a feel for your audience before you reveal too much.

Case in point. I own several firearms. I don't advertise that. Not because someone might think I'm dangerous, but because the wrong ears might hear it. I don't want to increase the odds of my house being broken into, so some things I keep close to my chest.

At least that's how I feel. I enjoy my privacy as well, and if I had a neighbor that kept up with calling AC, I'd document it, and at some point have a conversation with a legal beagle about harrasment laws. That's about all you can do.

Greg

[jitami]

Lori, here's a really old website I made for my boy. It's mostly dog show stuff and hasn't been updated in forever, but especially on the second page there are pictures during his "gangly teenage stage" (click Louie Pictures on the very bottom of first page) Not that it really matters, but he did finish his championship and had some very nice breed wins. He's always been a family member first. He and I traveled all over the country together, which created a very strong bond and a very well socialized and well behaved dog. I love him so much. The blue boy on the second page was a rescue, and "Chance" the blonde fluffy pup was on his last day at the pound and did not pass his temperament tests(uh-oh). He's still the best dog we've ever had! I do love the dog shows, but have learned that breeding isn't for me, so not sure if I'll go with another rescue at some point or a show puppy. I think I've mentioned hubby's pet moratorium on here before <gg> I have a while to decide <gg>

HOME (http://home.earthlink.net/~jitami/index.html)

[ssssnakeluvr]

Cool job, Don. I've gotten to meet two of our local AC Officers thanks to my neighbor.... sigh... " sure, come on in, yes they have fresh water, yes they have food, what's that? You don't think it was them barking? Yeah, me either. Oh, and they look like they're in good weight and condition? Can you please let the neighbor know that? Again? Thanks... sigh..." She once complained because my dog was out in the rain(for a few minutes!) without cover. They don't have cover outside because they don't stay outside. They go out to potty and then back in to the couch. She called because they were barking. They weren't. She called because my male looked skinny. He's 37" tall at the shoulder and they do go through a gangly period at about 12-18 months old, but he was totally healthy and being fed 6 cups of super premium food 3 times a day. He's getting older now and has a lick granuloma(open sore that he won't stop licking... fairly common in dogs, but totally sucks) and I'm just waiting for AC to show up again. It's actually been a couple of years now. They're over due <gg>
we get that kind of call every day out here....:( I tell them it's a gt dane, they are supposed to be skinny, if he was as stocky as a lab, he'd be overweight. the one that kills me here is complaining about huskies and malamutes out in the show.... DUH!!!!! where do you think they come from!!!!!!! ALASKAN malamute, SIBERIAN husky....these places just don't sound like a place to sun youself in a bikini!!!!! now, call me when it's 95 degrees out and he's laying in the sun panting and has no water or shelter.... I deal with idiots here all the time....a good portion of the idiots are the people calling us!!!! barking dog calls are a joke...complainant has to do a log, keep track of the exact times the dog barks and when he stops...and do that for 2 weeks, then we can possibly right a ticket if there is enough to be considered a nuisance....we know and the courts know that dogs bark....thats why people have dogs....

[Garter_Gertie]

Lumpy, I'm with you. I share it here as I know it will be appreciated, but I'm not telling hardly anyone else. PARTICULARLY the neighbors. I may have been born in the marnin', but it wasn't THIS marnin'!

[Lori P]

Awww Tami, I really enjoyed seeing Louie!! You may already know this, but, he is GORGEOUS!!!!! :-) My heart was once owned by a rescue dane, Dezi. She was an amazing, goofy, silly, sweet, cuddle bug of a lumox. I miss her so much... cancer. :-(

But, I digress... here is my buzzard sign. :-)

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/buzzard_sign_1.JPG

And I agree that it's best to keep peace with the neighbors, and it never hurts to kill them with kindness. But when you try over and over and over and they constantly attack you, you hit a snapping point where it's just all about making them as miserable as they've made you. I've thought about harrassment charges... but decided it's really more fun over-all to irritate the holy hell out of them. :D

And remember, mine are older. I'll outlive them. :D

[Garter_Gertie]

AH! Lori, I love you! Your take on situations is FABULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!! Your humor is divine! I LOVE IT!!!

[jitami]

LOL! Love it, love it, love it Lori!!!

Sorry to hear about Dezi :( They don't live long enough as it is, then when something takes them even earlier.. well, it's just not fair :( Our first dane died suddenly at 20 months due to a brain aneurysm. We had only had him for 8 months, but he was so very special. He was constantly glued to my side. I drove a white Explorer at the time and if I left for any reason he would whine until hubby took him outside so he could look in all the windows of all the white cars within eyesight of our house. Then he would lay by the front door with his chin resting on the windowsill waiting for me. The drool from his chin softened a chin sized depression on that windowsill that I just can not bring myself to fix. Yeah... he's been gone since 2000... sigh...

Now Louie... HE knows he's gorgeous! He's the most confident dog I've ever worked with, which makes him amazing in so many ways, but not mushy, lovey, glued to my hip, needy like Cobi. It's a loving, respectful bond, but he's much more independent.

Exactly, Don, if he were as stocky as a lab, especially while he was still growing, it would be horrible for his joints and I'd have Dane people on my case to take weight off him. lol Thankfully we don't have a barking ordinance here and it's totally up to them to prove it's my dogs barking and even then the worst thing that could possibly happen is going to a mediator. It's just the fact that I know it's not my dogs. I've done everything I can think of to ensure that mine don't bark and come on, they're Danes, they really don't bark much. Our yard borders 4 other yards and all have dogs. I finally left a note on my door saying that if you're here to leave a note about the dogs barking, take a step back, listen, and tell me if it sounds like a Dane or if it is one of the neighbor's dogs. I also left my cell phone number for them to call me so that I could verify and help solve the problem. Funny no one ever took me up on it.

Ok, James is going to kill me with all this dog talk when he gets back! :o
Sorry James :o:):o

[infernalis]

I may be alone in this, but in my way of thinking, medicine goes down better with a little honey.

For neighbors who are by nature "nosey", the less I reveal the better. I think any snake conversation with them would just add fuel to the fire. So I avoid it. I know nothing good will come of it, so why hand them the gun AND the bullets.

Although I like snakes and feel they have gotten a bad wrap, some people just don't want anything to do with them and feel all snakes are hostile and harmful. It's bad information I know, but I have to be sensitive to it. Coming across as anything arrogant or condecending isn't going to help the cause. So it's not a bad idea to get a feel for your audience before you reveal too much.

Case in point. I own several firearms. I don't advertise that. Not because someone might think I'm dangerous, but because the wrong ears might hear it. I don't want to increase the odds of my house being broken into, so some things I keep close to my chest.

At least that's how I feel. I enjoy my privacy as well, and if I had a neighbor that kept up with calling AC, I'd document it, and at some point have a conversation with a legal beagle about harrasment laws. That's about all you can do.

Greg

That's all I have ever wanted, but read on as to why that can never be..

Our situation is unique, in 1973 grandpa sold 3 acres to a dear sweet old lady, a slice of our yard! she stayed 2 years and sold it to this couple who are there now.

They are constantly pointing video and digital cameras at me, they forced me into a land survey, only to find out I own their driveway:D Of course I promptly blocked it off. (I paid $500 to learn that I own the driveway, so darn it I am gonna take what I pay taxes on.)

They have sent D.E.C. to my door twice, code enforcement 3 times and the department of health a couple times too.

All I have ever wanted is to be left alone, yet this big throbbing sore is like a cancer tumor. I cannot recieve the privacy I desire at all.

I had my cockapoo out in the yard when he was a pup, they were watching their sons rotweiler, the rot got loose and started after my Ace.

Wayne loves animals, especially mine, so I had to defend my pup, I had no weapon of any kind, so I let him (the rot) have my size 13 boot full friggin force, then I screamed over that I would kill it if I ever saw it on my property again. (real good for diplomatic relations)

Yeah I antagonize them, but I honestly feel they ask for it......:mad:

[Lumpy]

As you well know, dogs are to under the owners control at all times. So if it crossed onto your property, all bets are off. But again, if they are sending agencies over that end up going home empy handed....eventually I'd call it harrasement.

Yes there are bad neighbors, but from your end, I'd limit the contact. Let them be the agressor and fight back with the laws.

Lump

[anji1971]

Wow, some of you have really had it rough with neighbours!:eek:
I've been lucky..........the ones who do know I have snakes just smile and shake their heads at me, and the neighbourhood boys think I'm really cool.

[Stefan-A]

Case in point. I own several firearms. I don't advertise that. Not because someone might think I'm dangerous, but because the wrong ears might hear it. I don't want to increase the odds of my house being broken into, so some things I keep close to my chest.
Same here. My neighbors have seen me carrying gun cases to and from my car, I'm pretty sure they know. I also don't want my house broken into, even if I store my firearms in a safe, like the law requires. That's by the way something I do advertise, if I'm talking to people who already know that I have firearms. Even if you get inside the house, you're not getting them out of the safe.

[Lumpy]

I have safes as well. However, I've watched video of professionals compromising expensive, high end safes in less than 5 minutes. Either way though, I like to keep things on the down low.

Lump

[Loren]

Only one of my neighbors knows the whole story about my animals( I remind him often to keep his mouth shut to the neighbors). One more knows I have some "critters" but no real details. I try to keep it that way.
My collection is legal, but dont want the drama.

And, Lori, you are a goofball :) ( I mean that in a good way).

[drache]

boy, you guys
I've heard some nasty neighbour stories and some of the ones here fit right in
I'm fortunate with my neighbours - they just want to bring their kids over
it helps that I can tell them that anything remotely dangerous (like a rosy boa?) is already illegal in NYC
also - I live two short blocks from a store where they get alligators stuffed in pillow cases and the like ("I just got an inspection notice, I guess I gotta surrender Alfie")
so I'm really tame by comparison
I don't mind them calling me the crazy snake lady - I think is has a nice ring to it

[Loren]

I don't mind them calling me the crazy snake lady - I think is has a nice ring to it
Thats the kind of women I'm looking for ! :)

Unfortunately very few of them so far have been into guys.

[drache]

Thats the kind of women I'm looking for ! :)

Unfortunately very few of them so far have been into guys.
sorry Loren
I've already got a guy
and for a back-up I had considered David Attenborough, but he's pretty old, so I could put you ahead on the list . . .

[Spiritwolf]

When neighbors etc start making someone's life miserable via broadcasting exaggerated negativity (minus any details of truth that might detract from shock value of what they are saying), it makes one think that the USA is NOT a free country at all! Someone who owns multiple animals regardless of species, is a favorite target of such troublemakers.

How does anybody who hasn't gone into your house and counted the snakes in their cages (not an easy thing to do either, many times if you tried to count the snakes in my snake enclosures, you would come up with zero visible snakes!) know how many snakes you might have? Where did the troublemakers pick their figure of 50 from, the sky? (Or more likely from their imagination enhanced by the quest to get attention with their whining!)

It's a sure thing that your snakes aren't barking in the night, or defecating in other people's yards or tearing up anybody's trash etc.

You're doing the best thing you can do when faced with such troublemakers with inflated imaginations and disregard for logic and truth....don't tell anybody anything.

[Loren]

Where did the troublemakers pick their figure of 50 from, the sky?
Yeah, whats the deal ? I have over 60! They mis-counted! :)

[Loren]

sorry Loren
I've already got a guy
and for a back-up I had considered David Attenborough, but he's pretty old, so I could put you ahead on the list . . .

Woo -hoo! :D

Ok, so I had to go look up who this David guy is(out of shear curiosity)- kinda old? He's like 84!

Its ok- I'm not officially single myself either- I have a wife, she just isnt home right now (and hasnt been for the last 8 months:(). Kinda starting to wonder if something's wrong.:)

[Lori P]

Loren, I just saw a T shirt that read:

It's better to have loved and lost,
Than to live with the psycho the rest of your life.

Not sure if it's appropriate for you or not, but it did give me a giggle. :-)

[Loren]

Doesnt fit my situation Lori- but it is funny. :)

A buddy sent this to me a while ago- also funny.


http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/fairytale_jpeg.JPG

[Lori P]

ROFLMAO!!!!!! I know a few guys I can send that too also!!!!

[ssssnakeluvr]

Loren, I just saw a T shirt that read:

It's better to have loved and lost,
Than to live with the psycho the rest of your life.

Not sure if it's appropriate for you or not, but it did give me a giggle. :-)
hmmmmmmm....sounds familiar.... lived with a psycho for a bit....

[ssssnakeluvr]

A buddy sent this to me a while ago- also funny.


http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/fairytale_jpeg.JPG

now thats funny!!!!! :eek:

[Spiritwolf]

=="Wanna see my snake, little girl?" takes on a whole new meaning with us, huh?

ROFL, I also bred, trained, and showed German Shepherd dogs for years, until a couple of years ago when I moved here to my present home and decided to take a break from 20 years of cleaning up dog sh**.

Even now, I still do much pedigree and genetic research on German Shepherd Dogs, Collies, and some other animals.

Among dog people, the term "bitch" is the CORRECT word to use to describe a female dog and dog people usually forget how people outside of the hobby use and interpret this word.

I cannot count the number of times a group of my fellow dog breeder friends and I have been sitting in a restaurant discussing our dogs, or shows, or bloodlines, etc, when....startled looks or comments from other people nearby reminded us that the rest of the world sees the word "bitch" as a dirty word!

[Spiritwolf]

Somewhere once in a chatroom, I saw someone saying men are all snakes. I replied saying " Don't insult the snakes, snakes are much more predictable, much easier to live with, and you don't have to worry about them lying, raising hell, or cheating on you!"

[crzy_kevo]

lol thats true

[Zephyr]

My favorite for dissers of roaches:
It ain't a pest unless it bugs you.
:P

[Zigmund]

my neighbors dont know anything about what kind of snakes i have i have =)
though i dont have anything illegal they just know theres somthing in that creepy house over there XD

[infernalis]

An incident today has caused me to resurrect this thread from the past..

Children's Services pulled a surprise visit today, received anonymous tip that wild snakes were loose in our house. Nice huh?:(

So I got to show off my collection to a nice county lady:eek: but, since they were all well contained, she unfounded her report.

I know who "A. Nanny Mouse" is too.

I will be posting some photos of my new swine soon in the other pets thread.

The new sty is approved for construction, 35 feet from Mr. & Mrs.A. Mouse.

http://www.rockyroostmx.com/00123pigs/pignose.gif

[Snake lover 3-25]

wow that sucks!!!! you have some really nasty neighbors!!!! any idea who it was????:eek:

[infernalis]

Most likely the one I had arrested for disorderly conduct.

[Snake lover 3-25]

ouch..... that would explain it..... do it again!!!!:D

[Zephyr]

lol
Way to sock it to 'em Wayne!

[jitami]

Better start practicing your pig call :) That has got to be the one of the most annoying sounds man can make :)

[Zephyr]

Better start practicing your pig call :) That has got to be the one of the most annoying sounds man can make :)SU-EEEEEEEEY. Here piggy piggy piggy! XD

[jitami]

Maybe we should all come over and practice :p

Just until you get the pen built and the piggies moved in :)

[crzy_kevo]

lol i hate stupid neighbours owell at least you got that pig pen going up nice and close to their house :D

[infernalis]

We can have a Thamnophis annual pig roast:D

[crzy_kevo]

that would be fun :)

[garterchick]

exept for the pig :p

[infernalis]

I got a new toy woo hoo (Evil grin)

As I was driving out to see one of my favorite IT clients, I passed one of those truck sales, so I decided to go have a look.

I found an awesome homolite gas powered leaf blower!!! only $50 fall clearance.

Darn thing is, it started raining!! Now I have to wait for it to dry out and get dusty before I can go out and sweep the driveway with it:(

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol i don't get it.... how will that make neighbors think you're nuts???

[infernalis]

If you follow the thread back, you will see that they hate my dust from the track.

They even called child services and said my snakes were dangerous to my kids!

So I am going to show them exactly what dust is:D

Ever see what happens when you point a leaf blower at a dirt driveway?

Especially when some wacko (me) takes a broom and sweeps all that dust into a nice pile just before blowing on it:eek:

[Lori P]

Oh LOL it's a dirt driveway.... LOLOL Oh, you are bad!!!!! Now I have visions of them... "Martha! Martha, come look what that nut is doing! He's just blowing the dirt around! He's insane, I say, insane--we got him now for sure, call the sherriff!!"

[Zephyr]

lol
"In other news local snake fanatic whipped up a dust storm yesterday in an attempt to annoy his neighbors. He had this to say: 'It was damn well worth it!'" XD

[reptile3]

You have got to be kidding me... See when ppl don't have the knowledge they say stupid things!! grrrrr No one is worried here, about my reptiles. My 2nd iguana I owned escaped out a ripped window screen(it was during mating season) Actually one of my neighbors found him, but he went into the woods on the side of my house & they were barefooted. That's the south for ya!! LOL

So goofy, how many snakes do you have??? JUST KIDDING!!!





No matter how discreet we try and be, sooner or later the rumors will start. Maybe a neighbor stops by to borrow a cup of sugar, or the kids bring home a friend, whatever... once the word hits the street look out.

If anyone recalls last Saturday, we had almost the whole town rubber necking.. it's not often a helicopter lands in town, and it almost always seems to be here when it does.

One very concerned citizen spoke out and stated that "goofy b'stard" has 50 snakes in his house, and I'm concerned for the neighborhood children, if one of his snakes ever got loose, it could kill someone!

Anyone else have concerned neighbors that worry about your snakes getting loose and terrorizing the town?

http://www.reformedsniper.net/waldo2.jpg

[Loren]

I got a new toy woo hoo (Evil grin)




Sweet. I gotta get a weed wacker myself. Harbor freight has homelight wackers for 50 bucks on sale. I'll probably get what I pay for, but its worth a shot for that price. It wont get a ton of use.

[infernalis]

I have several weed whackers, The best is the Royobi commercial unit.

The maintenance on the MX track kills lesser machines quickly!

Stephanie, I lost count, but it's closer to 75 or 80 reptiles living here.

Walking Chomper in the yard turns heads!

[Garter_Gertie]

Dekay, you GOTTA start walking Chomper down the STREET say, "Sic'um boy, SIC'UM!"

"Say, Lady... wudd'a take for that Yorkie? Chomper, DOWN BOY!"

[Stefan-A]

Dekay, you GOTTA start walking Chomper down the STREET say, "Sic'um boy, SIC'UM!"
I think that might count as a death threat.

[reptile3]

I have several weed whackers, The best is the Royobi commercial unit.

The maintenance on the MX track kills lesser machines quickly!

Stephanie, I lost count, but it's closer to 75 or 80 reptiles living here.

Walking Chomper in the yard turns heads!

I have a homelite weed whacker... I love it!! Hubby mows the 2 acres & I weed whack!!

Yeah take Chompers out for a long walk!! :rolleyes:

[drache]

I want a weed whacker - and Chomper

[infernalis]

I think that might count as a death threat.


Yeah, There is a million ways to torment people and still be legal.

Why risk some animal officer taking chomper.

The neighbor I am dealing with is borderline insane (Not at all to do with how I feel about her, it is a clinical observation)

As soon as this wet weather dries up, I will video the leaf blower stunt, I am going to wait until she has wash out on the line, then take a big bucket of fine silt dust, point the leaf blower directly into the bucket and start the engine:D

When she loses it and goes all wacko, I will video tape her point blank.

For Halloween I am going to use a projector and a big sheet to play her reaction over and over while the neighborhood is out walking around.

I once told her it was not prudent to pick at the locks of Pandora's box, I don't think she understood.

[drache]

I don't know, Wayne
personally I am not into warfare and revenge, and what you have planned might send many a not-necessarily-insane-but-a-bit-overwhelmed person over the edge
it's what's usually referred to as an "escalation in hostilities"
so it doesn't seem to me that you're rising much above her level of discourse

[Lori P]

Yeah, but sometimes when all else fails, it feels soooooo good to hit 'em back with their own level of insanity. LOL Or, at least for me, it feels good just to talk about what I wish I could do. I wish I could pour gallons of ex-lax in her well.... LOL

[Zephyr]

lol
We have two nutty neighbors. We're smack dab in the middle of them. ):
My mom always says "Don't say anything out loud about your snake or they'll call the city!"
To which my response is always, "Mom, I had a freaking city ordinance manager come out to check everything... They couldn't hurt my @$$ if they tried."
Aside from that, the nut on the left has two yappy dogs they never pay attention to our play with and that start barking at 3 in the morning, and the nut on the right has a backyard full of junk and a giant illegal fence made from some sort of vine. x.x

[drache]

don't really have a good solution myself, but I really truly wish I did

[bsol]

I'm lucky I guess... my neighbors are really nice. The couple across the street seem a little snooty but hey 1 less neighbor in my business is a good thing!
I feel a little weird sometimes when I'm outside chasing a cricket or wolf spider to feed my 5-lined skink. I feel like my neighbors are all watching me, but I know they're not!

[infernalis]

I was out gathering slugs and made the critical error of telling her what the slugs were for!:eek:

[bsol]

haha nice one!
You should have said slug soup!

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol what'd she say???

[infernalis]

When I said they were snake food, she asked if my snakes were poison.

My reply was "I don't intend to eat them, so why do I care"

She looked at me very dumbfounded, and I told her no, they are little Dekayi snakes, she still made a funny face and walked away.

Then a year later when I made her mad at me (Had her arrested for disorderly conduct) she called child services and said I had dangerous snakes in my house!

They just closed that case yesterday, declared the complaint unfounded. (after 2 home visits to inspect my snakes!)

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol too funny!!!!! so thats how it all started.......

[infernalis]

No actually it all started when I opened a Motocross track 250 feet from their house.

When I was building it, they complimented me for such a nice track, I don't know what they expected me to do with a race track??

They didn't really flip until I opened the gate and let the first wave of riders in:eek:

Then it all started spiraling out of control from that point forward.....

[bsol]

you have to respect the true power of ignorance!

[Garter_Gertie]

YOU GO, BOYFRIND DEKAY, YOU GO!

I love reading about your neighbors! Cracks me up!

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol well......... i guess all you can do is wait till they get SOOOOO sick of you they move away:D might as well help them along:D

[infernalis]

lol well......... i guess all you can do is wait till they get SOOOOO sick of you they move away:D might as well help them along:D

I only wish.....

Honestly I think they get a kick out of this.

I have to go to court in 2 weeks, the woman up the street filed small claims stating I have lowered the value of her home, so I should give her 3000 dollars simply for being her neighbor!

First she does not have a clue how small claims court works, you cannot just dream up a number and try to sue for it.

The real trump card is that she is on town council, and the Judge works for the town, so they both draw checks from the same payroll account, It's called conflict of interest.

I'm going to save my trump card for last, and only if the judge is silly enough to actually award in her favor.

It will be fun, especially since she bought her son 2 dirt bikes and a 4 wheeler to ride here and I have tons of photos of her son here riding this equipment that she bought for him, and then chose to complain about it later:rolleyes:

[Hornets23]

She thinks you lowered the value of her home? That is INSANE...you must have some really wacko neighbors....

[Snake lover 3-25]

why would it lower her house's value?

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

noise.

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people are really weird. Give her a slap in the face for me wayne !!!

[Snake lover 3-25]

that's dumb.

[infernalis]

And the punch line is, the house on either side of hers both sold for record high numbers, and sold quickly in just the last 3 years.

The track has been open for six years:eek:

[infernalis]

Hey Shannon, There is another punch line, Her sons motorcycle puts out 105 decibels:eek:

I know this for a fact, I tested it with an audiometer....

This poor kid is to embarrassed to show his face anymore.

Yes she claims Noise and Dust have ruined her property, that coincidentally is zoned agriculture.

Agricultural zoning forbids attacks on noise, dust and odd smells.

Tractors can be loud, Plowing fields makes dust, and manure smells.

Now all I need is the third ingredient to ice the cake:cool:

[reptile3]

noise.

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people are really weird. Give her a slap in the face for me wayne !!!

X2 for me!!

[ssssnakeluvr]

go Wayne!!!! kick some butt!!!!! :cool:

[Hornets23]

Noise and dust...hmm.....i bet your snakes ARE pretty loud...

[Zephyr]

Wayne, my ma's friend's house is for sale down the street, if that makes you any more happy. :)

[infernalis]

How many acres is the yard??

If I cant walk for half an hour one way and still be in my yard, I could never be happy there.

With the exception of these two neighbors, I am very happy. This place is paradise to me, nothing I'd rather see than that creek, the woods, the hill, all of it.

See I like the idea of bears in the garbage, skunks under the porch, deer eating apples out of my tree, and snakes everywhere.

Thing is, I want nothing more than to be left alone, to live my life in peace. Yet somehow these 2 neighbors wish to make my life anything but peaceful.

I tried to ignore all this, really I did.... Then they decided to launch attacks against Dorothy and Samantha to try and get at me.. That was just too much.

What kind of creep tries to get a handicap persons SSI revoked???

[guidofatherof5]

When I first moved into the neighborhood Garters were usually killed and thrown in the street. Now, the neighbors will call and say "send one of your kids over". We don't mind at all and some neighbors are now looking and even touching the snakes we remove.

[richard f.]

Surprises me now. For 50 years(since I was 10) snakes lived on the periphery of my consciousness. I don't know the exact percentage of the irrationally fearful but I'm guessing 95. But- neighbours brought us a two foot specimen in a covered bucket- they were terrified but happy to catch a snake "for Lucy". Probably guess where it comes from. Interesting.

[jitami]

That's pretty cool Richard :) Gotta love neighbors who put Lucy's interests above their own fear :)

[richard f.]

Gotta love 'em whether or not. My best employee keeps a shovel at each corner of his house. You know what for. Can"t even look at a photo. Has to sit outside to have a beer when he drops in.

[Stefan-A]

Gotta love 'em whether or not. My best employee keeps a shovel at each corner of his house. You know what for. Can"t even look at a photo. Has to sit outside to have a beer when he drops in.
Most of my currently living relatives keep shovels and sticks at every corner of their summer cottages and at practically every tree along every little path for the same purpose. We don't get along.

[bsol]

Most of my currently living relatives keep shovels and sticks at every corner of their summer cottages and at practically every tree along every little path for the same purpose. We don't get along.
It takes more energy to commit such an act than it does to scare them off with a broom....
Lets face it a broom is cheaper than a shovel too.
Its not like they are doing themselves a favor by hurting those snakes, more like promoting rat and mice population growth!

[Stefan-A]

It takes more energy to commit such an act than it does to scare them off with a broom....
Lets face it a broom is cheaper than a shovel too.
Its not like they are doing themselves a favor by hurting those snakes, more like promoting rat and mice population growth!
Try to convince them that it's pointless. These days, I'm just resorting to pointing out how utterly futile their efforts have been so far. They've been at it for decades and there are still snakes around.

[bsol]

Try to convince them that it's pointless. These days, I'm just resorting to pointing out how utterly futile their efforts have been so far. They've been at it for decades and there are still snakes around.
Good point!

[Snake lover 3-25]

i wish there was no such thing as neighbors:D we should all live at leadt a mile apart:D

[Stefan-A]

i wish there was no such thing as neighbors:D we should all live at leadt a mile apart:D
Not nearly enough. You should at the very least be able to shoot a gun in any direction without risking hitting anybody.

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol nice:D

[infernalis]

Not nearly enough. You should at the very least be able to shoot a gun in any direction without risking hitting anybody.

If I walk to the middle of my property, I can do just that:D

Often think about chopping the house plus one acre off, and selling it to get money and build the new house back there, and have a private driveway half a mile long.

The "backdrop" is a steep hillside to absorb the flak.

"Mr. Thunder maker" has a 3 inch bore, fires packed paper wad and makes a lot of noise with about an ounce of black powder.

I'd probably go crazy living next door to me too:rolleyes:

[Hornets23]

It would be nice to live in the middle of nowhere. I hope to live in a forest one day. :D

[infernalis]

Went to court tonight....

Priceless, No cash was awarded:D

[jitami]

Congrats Wayne :)

[infernalis]

Before my case was called there was an elderly couple, both near deaf.

It was almost funny, They have been friends for 60 years.

He was suing her for an afghan that his wife made.

The judge was shouting, trying not to laugh.

These people had to be 90+, fighting over a blanket.....:eek:

[drache]

congrats on the court thing
and the couple after you . .
they remind me a little of the elderly siblings on my block who've been fighting since they were kids
they still live next to each other
she's got a fully concreted and tamed front yard
his is completely overgrown with man-high weeds and has a tall solid wood fence toward her side, with a sign on in that reads "this fence was put up to prevent my neighbor from destroying my plants"
they don't talk to each other

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol too funny rhea:D

[reptile3]

Now that is hilarious!!!:D



congrats on the court thing
and the couple after you . .
they remind me a little of the elderly siblings on my block who've been fighting since they were kids
they still live next to each other
she's got a fully concreted and tamed front yard
his is completely overgrown with man-high weeds and has a tall solid wood fence toward her side, with a sign on in that reads "this fence was put up to prevent my neighbor from destroying my plants"
they don't talk to each other

[reptile3]

It would be nice to live in the middle of nowhere. I hope to live in a forest one day. :D

That is what my husband wants too!!:)

[infernalis]

Irony Oh how I love it WOOT WOOT!!!

Ok scroll back through this thread, The neighbor that just tried to sue....

Her nephew just came to the door and wanted to know if they could ride on the track:eek: Traveled all the way from New Jersey to go riding.

Of course I said YES!!!!

So anyways, Lori is at work right now, and her son and 2 nephews are going riding...

At the evil track that makes Lori's life suck so bad!

So of course I am going to be taking a ton of date stamped pictures today.....

Somehow Lori managed to convince the tax assesor to lower her home value for living next to that god aweful track.

I wonder if that will get reversed when I present the pictures!!
Taken AFTER court:cool:

Woo Hoo such fun.

[DaveM]

y neighbours think I'm crazy, mainly cos I got drunk and woke up on my front lawn hugging one of my guitars lmfao



But to stay on topic, my neigbour was terrified of snakes, but since in the summer I take them out to sunbathe, she observes from a distance now, with now declarations of my insanity

[Snake lover 3-25]

lol nice dave!!!!! woot woot payback!!!! go wayne!!!! lol

[Zephyr]

lol
Wayne.
Always good to have evidence.
Especially photographic. :)

[anji1971]

Wayne, that story is priceless!
You know what they say about the rotten things people do coming back to bite them in the butt.............
I hope you also get a good picture of your neighbour's face when she sees those photos of her nephew enjoying your "evil" property!:D

[reptile3]

Wayne, that story is priceless!
You know what they say about the rotten things people do coming back to bite them in the butt.............
I hope you also get a good picture of your neighbour's face when she sees those photos of her nephew enjoying your "evil" property!:D


I would love to see that picture too!!:D

[mtolypetsupply]

Wayne, hubby has a really fast, really LOUD quad.
Want some visitors one weekend? ;)

[infernalis]

Visitors on weekends is how we eat:D

So YES, and bring half of Jersey with you...

Honestly though, we do have folks who come out from your neck of the woods from time to time.

Really Fast, really loud, Hmmm what model 450 does he ride?

It used to be mostly YFZ Yamahas, but the other Japanese manufacturers have caught up with them.

[mtolypetsupply]

He's got an '04 Honda. TRX 450 or Sprortrax 450 or something. Me, I ride 1 horsepower, 1996 Thoroughbred. I could let Mr. Roark poop on their lawn, too. :)

[infernalis]

TRX 450 you have that right.

I think 04 was the first year they came out.

There is like a thousand acres of horse trails around here, stuff both in the same trailer:D

[mtolypetsupply]

I'm too much of a worry wort to put my precious baby in a trailer with the quad, as I'd be paranoid he'd put a footpeg through his leg, or it would roll and scare him and he'd flip over in there or something. Talk about paranoid MOM!!!! I bought hubby a trailer for his quad, anyway. That was back when I had money, oh the good old days!

By the same paranoid token, HOW do you all take pics of your snakies LOOSE outside, on the carpet, on the flowers, etc???? I'd be TERRIFIED that they'll "run away" on me!!!!! (Yes, still picturing little hobo sticks lol) They are SO fast and little enough to fit so many places, and hide and burrow so well!

[Hornets23]

Stephi...I'm afraid my snakes will run away toooo! My anery radix would run away for sure...no doubt in my mind. I might be brave enough to try it with the corn snake.....maybe?

[infernalis]

By the same paranoid token, HOW do you all take pics of your snakies LOOSE outside, on the carpet, on the flowers, etc???? I'd be TERRIFIED that they'll "run away" on me!!!!! (Yes, still picturing little hobo sticks lol) They are SO fast and little enough to fit so many places, and hide and burrow so well!

I only take my bigger / slower species outside for photo shoots.

Corn Snakes and Pythons usually just meander along at a casual pace.

[Stefan-A]

By the same paranoid token, HOW do you all take pics of your snakies LOOSE outside, on the carpet, on the flowers, etc???? I'd be TERRIFIED that they'll "run away" on me!!!!! (Yes, still picturing little hobo sticks lol) They are SO fast and little enough to fit so many places, and hide and burrow so well!
I only have one garter I'm comfortable (not complacently comfortable) taking outside and one that can just barely be controlled. Even when they're easy to handle indoors, it changes the second you let them loose outdoors. The remaining three garters are completely uncontrollable.

I take my photos in the middle of the yard, far from any bushes, fences, buildings or anything else where there might be a hole or an obstacle in case I need to chase the snake down. And I don't take my eyes off them for a second, I don't make any sudden moves and I don't stand directly over them, just in case it might spook them.

[Lori P]

He's got an '04 Honda. TRX 450 or Sprortrax 450 or something. Me, I ride 1 horsepower, 1996 Thoroughbred. I could let Mr. Roark poop on their lawn, too. :)

Hey, it's great fertilizer, they might actually appreciate it!!!

My Evil Neighbor complained, as we knew she would, when we moved the manure pile just a weeee bit closer to her property. She said she was inundated with flies this year because of it. Keeping in mind it's all of 20 feet closer than it used to be.

Oh, her sister called me a couple of years ago to help her place her cat. I was sooooooooo sweet to the sister and we found kitty an awesome home; I even picked him up and delivered him. Then her grandkids started asking if they could come see the animals, and I told them of course... just ask granny... they never came, and I wonder what mean old granny told them.

Steph, I'm supposed to be moving horses around today to different foster homes but it is POURING rain... I don't feel real comfortable trailering in the wind and rain. Hoping it'll stop soon. One of the horses is an OTT tb, who HATES loading.... can you see us out there slipping and sliding and arguing about who's getting on that trailer today?? LOL There's your giggle for the day!!

[mtolypetsupply]

Lori,
It always surprises me when the OTTTBs don't tolerate something. My guy gave me fits about loading for a while, and I can't imagine why. It's not like the races came to him!!!!! I like that about the OTTTBs, they've pretty much seen and heard and done it all. You can run heavy equipment around my guy, chainsaws, none of it spooks them. But he is still a silly horse, so he freaks out at *leaves* blowing on the ground by his feet!

do you have a stock trailer available? I find my reluctant loaders do much better with a stock than a straight or slant, especially if they have enough room to turn around, and you can walk them out the front.

Brenderup makes the COOLEST trailer, it has a door up front to walk the horse out. One thing I found is that horses that won't go in somewhere forward will back into the same spot. So a reluctant loader, you can back him in the front door, and voila!!!! Hey, if you're using a stock trailer with a ramp (do they even have those?), try that, back him in, and turn him as you need.

When we get a farm, I'm going to need company for my Roark. I'll let you know when we're ready, so you can keep an eye out for another horse/pony for me!

[infernalis]

While we are on the subject of equestrians, One of the absolute hardest ever moments was when our pony "Pepper" developed laminitis after 35 years in our family. He was a gift when I was 6 years old:(

Our farrier did all he could, but peppers ankle bones were dropping to the point where the only option was to have our farm vet come out and do a lethal injection.

Pepper is buried out by the barn...

[Snake lover 3-25]

yeah... outside..... used to do it with all of them.... bad day when both sooty and willow almost got lost..... willow burrowed under the grass and he usually sticks his head up and is east to find..... when no head came up for a few mins i started to look around for him then i started to frantically rip up chunls of grass...... then i got the idea to spray water on the grass till he came up finally it worked.... scare of my life...... put him back in a travel cage watched the others.... it was when i had mama with me out there too.... 4 snakes was just too many to watch at once.... meadow just wandered in circles and followed me and mama started to get a little to far away so i went to go get her and came back and sooty was nowhere to be found....... immediatly went tot the hose.... after about 5 mins when it didn't work i started to frantically pull up the grass again..... found her happily burrowed in the dirt with a worm sticking out of her mouth. lets just say it was the end of they're play time.

[Lori P]

While we are on the subject of equestrians, One of the absolute hardest ever moments was when our pony "Pepper" developed laminitis after 35 years in our family. He was a gift when I was 6 years old:(

Our farrier did all he could, but peppers ankle bones were dropping to the point where the only option was to have our farm vet come out and do a lethal injection.

Pepper is buried out by the barn...

Oh, man, Wayne, what a loss.

One of our clients just had to euth her 40 year old pony who had been with her since the pony was weaned... I can't imagine loosing such a long term, life long companion. We have a 45 year old pony in the rescue, he lives with one of my foster homes; we've had him for about 3 years now. (When all the kids moved out, and the grandkids, he was left out in the back field to starve because no-one in the family wanted him... 40 some years and they just left him to starve... people slay me.) Anyway, little Leonard totally RULES all of his foster mom's horses--- and just a couple of months ago he jumped a 4 ft fence to get to a young mare in heat!!!!!! We call him the Never Ending Pony... :)

[infernalis]

One time a mare in heat from up the road came here and jumped his fence.

Dude was like 35-37 and well I won't be rude about it:)

I asked the owner of the mare if she wound up with foal out of this, I'd adopt or buy it.

Nothing, it didn't "take"

[Lori P]

LOL, well, Leonard is a gelding, he just thinks he's a big old stud. So, as a matter of fact, does this horrid little miniature I have here... 250 lbs of lean, mean, lovin' machine, or so he thinks. He drives me nuts. Bites, kicks, fights with the big horses... evil little thing!!! LOL

[duh duh duh]

Nothing like a good compost pit to help with the environment, eh?

Tough for a politician to raise a stink with the town about the environment these days.

Nothing saying you cant put the compost pit immediately adjacent to your fence on their side. I've heard that nothing says hello faster than the smell of composting grass on a hot summer day...

[infernalis]

Half a dozen head of swine with a mud pit, 30 feet from her front porch:D