new pics of george

[crzy_kevo]

here u go guys tell me what u think.
this camera really shows off george's beautiful rusty coloration
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5308/picture001fd5.jpghttp://img205.imageshack.us/img205/391/picture003xc6.jpg
Close up
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3338/picture004jx9.jpg
a couple more
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/117/picture006uz2.jpghttp://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9913/picture012im3.jpg
anyways this is my beautiful snake george for thos of you that havent seen him yet.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Sweet!!!!! love that color!!!!

[Garter_Gertie]

What a DARLING baby! OOOOOO! I want him! Nice garter, Kev!

[crzy_kevo]

how old would you say george is he is about 14-16" im guessing

[el lobo]

Wow. he is very handsome! I love those colours!

[crzy_kevo]

i wish i could breed him and give everybody one

[el lobo]

go find another snake and do it!

[el lobo]

Couldn't tell you the age...I'm sure James knows quite enough to give you an accurate estimate. it might depend on the frequency of his meals and stuff like that...

[crzy_kevo]

lol well it would have to be the opposite sex and i havent the supplies to breed him however caleb you are welcome to come out to where i found george and search for more with me

[crzy_kevo]

well i have had george for just over a week i have fed him 3 times first 2 times werent much because i didnt have adequet supply today was his 3rd meal and he ate a minnow as a treat and a couple bass fillets
and i think james is offline right now darn british lol

[Garter_Gertie]

Yes, James toddled off. But who knows? He may wake in the nite and have a burning desire to get on here. The man lives here. (Like I'm starting to...)

Where in Canada are you, Kev? I'm just south o'you and *I* could come get a baby... Wait! Didn't I read here that your snakes can't be xported and brought into the US? I think I did.

BUMMER!!!

[crzy_kevo]

if you hide it under a blanket or something in your car they will never know lol and well im in amherstburg its like a good 30-45 mins from the windsor/detroit border

[crzy_kevo]

anywho i have been on here since i got off work and if i dont clean up the appartment my Gf is gonna have my b****
ill check back periodically

[el lobo]

lol well it would have to be the opposite sex and i havent the supplies to breed him however caleb you are welcome to come out to where i found george and search for more with me

Well, I have a brother in Manitoba...perhaps I could stop by briefly while visiting him! haha. or not.

[crzy_kevo]

lol mannitoba is a long way from where i live

[el lobo]

Yeah, Mannitoba is a long way from anywhere.

[crzy_kevo]

i hear that lol

[Sid]

Kev, great looking Garter. I would guess it to be a young adult maybe 2 to 3 years old.

[crzy_kevo]

i just measured it i was way off its 18-19" long

[anji1971]

That's a really nice garter! I'll have to come herping in your neighbourhood.........;)

[GartersRock]

Very, VERY nice guy you've got there Kevin! Hope you are able to breed him. To bad you're in Canada or I would take some of the babies.

[Stefan-A]

VERY nice snake, Kevin. :)

[adamanteus]

Love the new photos, Kevin. That's a really beautiful snake. It's certainly a young adult, but I wouldn't want to try to guess at a specific age.... too many variables effecting growth rates.

[drache]

Gaorge is a very nice looking snake
and it seems like he has a sweet personality also

[anji1971]

Very, VERY nice guy you've got there Kevin! Hope you are able to breed him. To bad you're in Canada or I would take some of the babies.

Hey Kevin, I am in Canada..........and a few minutes away too. If your snake has babies, I'd love one with that colouring!
And by the way, I've got some little easterns with orange sides right now if you're interested. They're free. Just pm me.

[big J]

thats a freaking awesome looking garter. I just picked up three erythyrystics from the columbia show today. They maybe yearlings the guy didn't say but I got a heck of a deal on them 35$ for all of them. I am sure I have one femalebut not sure on the others. Also with the eryth. gene bering codomanint I can try to breed them together and get a screaming red garter

[Thamnophis]

Very beautiful color!

[Lori P]

Omg, George is GORGEOUS. I looooove that red!!!

[crzy_kevo]

ya i thought he was absolutely beatuful to i want to find a mate for him altho i am not totally convinced its a boy lol
maybe if i can get anji to visit she can tell me cuz george doesnt stay still long enough to take pics of the cloaca lol

[lestat]

Yes very lovley Garter and nice colour.

[crzy_kevo]

here are a few more pics
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1701/picture019ca6.jpghttp://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3675/picture020ez7.jpghttp://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2307/picture021sc3.jpg
i guess he likes the guitar

[crzy_kevo]

some more
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1295/picture022cx4.jpghttp://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2272/picture023sv0.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9509/picture024my7.jpghttp://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7397/picture026rq3.jpg

[ScimitarX]

His colour really is amazing. Sure looks like hes having fun exploring in those pics. Thanks for sharing:)

[crzy_kevo]

ya he likes exploring alot its hard to get him to sit still when i let him outa the enclosure

[Garter_Gertie]

Yes, his color really is amazing. I just love it. Very cool snake is Mr. George.

[crzy_kevo]

im going to get a 20 gal tank for him but do you think i could put 2 snakes in a 20 gal tank because i do want to get another one

[ssssnakeluvr]

Thats a sweet eastern!!!!!!!

[anji1971]

George is stunning, Kevin. I've never seen an Eastern around here with that colour yet.
And a 20 gallon is fine for two if that's all you can get. A bit bigger is probably better, but my girls are both in a 20G for now, and they seem to have plenty of room. Just give 'em lots to climb on.

[Garter_Gertie]

Don't get me started, Kev. I'm of the opinion bigger is better, which - I don't think - is the majority opinion here. I'm going to be putting three into a 90 gal and I'm still worried it's not long enough. Yeah, they may be social, but I think they also stake out territories - or might. But I am going to go with all one gender so that will help.

[anji1971]

Actually, most of us here think a bigger enclosure is good. Sometimes though, you just have to make do with what you've got!;)
I am going to be getting a HUGE tank in the near future........... the lady who took 2 of my baby garters also has a 7 foot Redtail Boa who needs a bigger house soon, and she promised me his old one when she moves him! YAY!!!

[crzy_kevo]

giving them lots to climb on wont be a problem at all lots of dead branches and stuff across the street but i was wonder what should i do to remove and could be insects from inside the dead branches

[Garter_Gertie]

Actually, most of us here think a bigger enclosure is good. Sometimes though, you just have to make do with what you've got!;)
I am going to be getting a HUGE tank in the near future........... the lady who took 2 of my baby garters also has a 7 foot Redtail Boa who needs a bigger house soon, and she promised me his old one when she moves him! YAY!!!

(wiping sweat from brow) WHEW! That's good to learn, Anji! MHS, Minnesota Herp Society, and kingsnake.com, on their forums they're always ragging at me that I'm using enclosures that are too big. Kenabec was going to go in the 90 gal but I think for the sake of the trio, the 90 would be better for them. And either a new 90 for Kenabec or just a wee titch smaller. But NOT a 20 gal like MHS is trying to tell me! He couldn't stretch out full length in that!!!!!!!!!!!!

[anji1971]

giving them lots to climb on wont be a problem at all lots of dead branches and stuff across the street but i was wonder what should i do to remove and could be insects from inside the dead branches

Baking them in the oven for 1/2 hour at 350 should kill anything living in the branches.

[crzy_kevo]

ok thank you thats what i thought i was going to have to do
ya there are lots of natural materials i can get out here from ivy plants to grass i love it

[crzy_kevo]

well the 2 snakes were just hangin out so i thought i should get some pics
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7810/picture034pe0.jpghttp://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4262/picture035qj1.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5299/picture036tr4.jpg

[crzy_kevo]

im having some hard time getting checkers to eat but i have only had her since wednesday night she may still be getting used to captivity she ate a very small worm today and that was it

[crzy_kevo]

scratch that i just got her to eat another small worm from my hand this time
she has be basking now so i will try a piece of salmon

[jitami]

I just love how they're hanging around in their tree. Very nice Kevin. Glad you got Checkers to eat for you too :)

[crzy_kevo]

well she still wont touch the salmon i will have to get some minnows and more night crawlers to get her started off

[Lori P]

I think you're doing great getting her to eat at all so soon! Good job. And great pics!

[crzy_kevo]

thanks they have shifted positions now and they are almost intertwined in a ball on the ivy branch just chilling havin a good time
ya i was surprised that she actually ate that worm from my hand
i guess i just have that special touch

[Garter_Gertie]

Kev, here's the deal. Breed that GORGEOUS rusty snake, George? Then travel west to... West Ontario? By MN. Go to... To... Oh! Yeah! Gunflint Lake. In the winter. And I'll have worms, salmon, rabbit drumsticks, fuzzies, minnows... And I'll entice MY BABY across the border! :D Like, ittiz not smuggling or anything like THAT. The snakey came of it's own free will!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

[anji1971]

Those are great pictures, Kevin!
Your girls seem to be getting along quite well. Mine still don't get that comfy together!

[Lori P]

Kev, here's the deal. Breed that GORGEOUS rusty snake, George? Then travel west to... West Ontario? By MN. Go to... To... Oh! Yeah! Gunflint Lake. In the winter. And I'll have worms, salmon, rabbit drumsticks, fuzzies, minnows... And I'll entice MY BABY across the border! :D Like, ittiz not smuggling or anything like THAT. The snakey came of it's own free will!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

OMG-- can't you just SEE the ensuing drama---

Cops will be lined up on both side of the border. Sirens will be screeching, lights will be flashing. The whole area will be corndoned off with police tape. The SWAT team, the National Guard, the Canadian Mounties, the EPA will be there, as well as PETA. Police and television helicopters will be hovering with searchlights on. Bullhorns will be blaring and the cops will all have their guns drawn.

And in the middle of it all, crouched within inches of the border, will be little Gertie and little Kevin, with a teeeeeeeeny tiny itty bitty wittle baby snake creeping ooooohhhh so slowly toward the border... Gertie with rabbit legs and plastic bags of small minnows hanging around her neck, pockets overflowing with worms and pinkies... :D

[Stefan-A]

Nice, Lori. :D

[GartersRock]

OMG, loL!! Thats way to funnY!!

[Garter_Gertie]

Lori, what? Yous gotta crystal ball? HOW do you KNOW these things? :D

[Garter_Gertie]

You furgot Customs...

[infernalis]

Terrance And Phillip to the rescue...

http://www.ridetrash.com/images/imagesfinal/TerrancePhillip.jpg

[crzy_kevo]

lol that should be interesting

[jitami]

Too funny Lori! :)

[crzy_kevo]

well its been a while since i posted some pics of george so here are some new ones

first one showing off her great colors including her silvery sides
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3301/picture075xo7.jpg

and now just chillin on the branch
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8186/picture074qv1.jpg

these pictures dont really giver her colors out properly but you can almost get the idea

[adamanteus]

She's a good looking girl, Kevin.:)

[crzy_kevo]

yeas she is going to make me some nice babies if she does have the erythristic genes
the babies should come out erythristic too because it is co-dominant

if i breed her with the male flame im getting in the spring i should have quite interesting results

[Snake lover 3-25]

she's very pretty:) hope you get some awesome babies:)

[reptile3]

very nice colors, she is a beauty. babies?? oooohhhhhhh:D

[crzy_kevo]

yes the first step will be if i find another erythristic in the area to possibly make the genes stronger and the colors be more vibrant if not then she will problably be crossed with a flame to see what results can come from that

[mtolypetsupply]

Beautiful girl, Kevin!

[olive oil]

Very nice, good luck with them babies.

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

Kevin, she is a beautiful snake. I would not breed her to a flame because that will overdo it and drown out her natural beauty! instead, I would find a male similar in coloration and reproduce that exact look that she has!!! Seek and you shall find. Look long enough and you will find the right male. I would say she's not an erythristic... ery's usually have sickening reds on them, in places you can see weird red blotches of it that stick out...and erythristic is technically not codominant as much as it is just a lot of red on a snake being passed on to the next generation in varying amounts. Flames are codom like, either they're flame or theyre not, but erythristics are kind of like a ring toss.... you could breed two nice high red snakes and get a bunch of babies with little or no red in them!! George here looks more like a pretty rusty red snake, her coloration is more uniform and natural looking, that if paired with the right male, will throw you a whole clutch of babies similar in color to her... and when they are born you should be able to see their color right away... with erythristics, those come out all brown and tan and you have no idea they are even special!!!! If you line breed her color traits the right way you will have your whole own flavor of special eastern!!!!

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

(put me down for babies) ;)

[crzy_kevo]

well you make a god point shannon but i have seen some other pictures of erythristic easterns that are the same colors as george such as this florida erythristic the colors of the scales are identical Google Image Result for http://gallery.kingsnake.com/data/364304_24_2008_Eastern_erythristic_Florida_strain_ adult_female_gravid_2-med.JPG (http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://gallery.kingsnake.com/data/364304_24_2008_Eastern_erythristic_Florida_strain_ adult_female_gravid_2-med.JPG&imgrefurl=http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php%3Fid%3D1514997,1514997&usg=__hf97_CNOnN2QeHVaAphz9PPDgUU=&h=450&w=600&sz=93&hl=en&start=12&tbnid=2_74Ecd2t4RSHM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Derythristic%2Beastern%2Bgarter%26gbv% 3D2%26hl%3Den)

so it really could go either way

[crzy_kevo]

(put me down for babies) ;)


and if you can figure out the paper work i would surely put you down for a pair :D

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

well heck im not saying she CANT be ery, in fact all ery is, is high amounts of red pigmentation. people just take a snake with a lot of red on it and label it "erythristic"....what I am saying is... don't fudge her look with flame or something else, it will just kill it... definitely line breed if you can!!!! :D

[crzy_kevo]

oh for sure if i can :D

[anji1971]

I'll want one of those babies too.
Finally, someone close by in Canada is gonna make snakelets.........yay!!:D

[crzy_kevo]

dont worry anji you are on the top of the list with first pick :D of all the babies i have this year

[anji1971]

Ohhhh yay!!!
I feel super-duper-extra-special now. :D:):D

[drache]

yeah - she's a lovely snake
I bet she looks even better in the flesh