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adamanteus
06-18-2008, 05:05 AM
Just a couple of pics.:)

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//539/medium/mel11.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//539/medium/mel21.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//539/medium/mel2.jpg

Stefan-A
06-18-2008, 05:10 AM
Nice. :) So are the radix in the other thread.

ScimitarX
06-18-2008, 06:11 AM
They are beautiful. Might have to get a melanistic myself one day

infernalis
06-18-2008, 07:16 AM
Very nice James.

Always fond of black...

Wayne

Snake lover 3-25
06-18-2008, 09:12 AM
awwwwww very pretty!!!!:D:D

anji1971
06-18-2008, 09:21 AM
Love 'em!
These are probably right at the top of my list, when I can one day afford to buy snakes!
I just love an all-black snake..............so beautiful.

infernalis
06-18-2008, 11:05 AM
Especially when all the other jet black snakes have a bad temper.

Ever try to keep a black racer?

Melanistics have the same look, with the smooth temperaments of a garter.

Wayne

GartersRock
06-18-2008, 11:47 AM
Very nice! And cute too!

beaniesmommy
06-18-2008, 12:16 PM
Oh wow I love the color, I think that is what I want next! :)

lestat
06-18-2008, 04:35 PM
They are lovely. Cant wait for mine to arrive. Talking of witch. I might have to get a train to you as you are quite a way from me but then i did drive to Yeovil this weekend and got 2 Female Plains Garters though when i saw them i imediatley thought they were Floridor Blues. Are they subspiecies to each other. They are very jumpy but will take photos.

Zephyr
06-18-2008, 04:39 PM
Give him/her to me now so I may luff him/her. D<

adamanteus
06-18-2008, 04:58 PM
No Peter, Plains and Florida Blues are distinct species... You bought two Plains? You remember you have ordered (and paid for) 1.1 through me, don't you?

el lobo
06-18-2008, 05:05 PM
Beautiful snake! I would love a melanistic...might get 0.1 T. s. sirtalis melanistic to breed when my female has her young.

ssssnakeluvr
06-18-2008, 05:12 PM
I love the melanistics too!!!! I need a male...my female is lonely...I do have a male from the area the mels are found, possibly het for mel....didn't breed with her this year...:( here's a shot of my female....all 43 inches of her!

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/medium/mel_7.jpg

adamanteus
06-18-2008, 05:14 PM
She a beautiful (and big) girl, Don.:D

Snake lover 3-25
06-18-2008, 05:26 PM
wow 43 in!!!! that's huge!!!!!! and i thought mine was big!!!!! wow she's so pretty too!!!!!:D:D:D

Lori P
06-18-2008, 07:02 PM
Nice, James and Don! They really appeal to me too. Another for the list... :-)

count dewclaw
06-18-2008, 07:45 PM
Another for the list... :-)

Yeah, my list is getting longer every time I see another picture. I must prioritize!

James and Don, those are indeed some lovely snakes.

sschind
06-19-2008, 12:30 PM
Especially when all the other jet black snakes have a bad temper.

Ever try to keep a black racer?

Melanistics have the same look, with the smooth temperaments of a garter.

Wayne

Smooth temperament??? My easterns are all over the place. Now my Eastern Blacknecks are great. About as mellow as you can get. As far as other all black snakes go Melanistic variable kings are about as mellow as you can get. Black milks are great but it takes a few years for the babies to become all black. Mexican Black kings are great but if they don't have good genetics the adults can turn out more of a dark chocolate brown. I'd give all three of those the nod over an eastern garter when it comes to temperament.

drache
06-19-2008, 01:02 PM
I love black snakes
and melanistic garters are up up on the list

infernalis
06-19-2008, 01:10 PM
Smooth temperament??? My easterns are all over the place. Now my Eastern Blacknecks are great. About as mellow as you can get. As far as other all black snakes go Melanistic variable kings are about as mellow as you can get. Black milks are great but it takes a few years for the babies to become all black. Mexican Black kings are great but if they don't have good genetics the adults can turn out more of a dark chocolate brown. I'd give all three of those the nod over an eastern garter when it comes to temperament.


There is also too mellow. Garters may be all over the place, and so are the racers, but when a racer bites you, they chew and chew.

I have adored black milks for a long time, and will probably have one before all is said and done.

With Eastern garters, they may nip, they may musk, but they are well tempered.

I have even heard of one case where a wild racer when picked up and moved, returned to the man that moved it and returned to striking at his leg.

All black kings and milks, Melanistic examples of other species may all be great snakes, and I would never turn one down.

Zephyr
06-19-2008, 01:42 PM
At the plots I heard a report of a recently impregnated eastern garter snake who chased people around when they came near her residence. XD

sschind
06-19-2008, 05:37 PM
I know exactly what you are talking about with the black racers. When I bought my store it came complete with a particularly feisty one. I wasn't as brave back then so I put on large leather welding glove that went about half way up my arm and reached in to grab the snake. I picked him up with about 3 inches of his neck and head protruding out from my closed fist. He proceeded to corkscrew his body around about a half a dozen times and with each revolution his head (the part with the teeth) extended further and further out of my fist. They say snakes can't see very well but this guy knew exactly where the glove ended. After twisting 5 or 6 times he started to bite and within the space of about a 1/2 a second (it seemed even faster) he bit me three times no more than an inch above the glove. 1 less revolution and he would have hit the glove. It all happened so fast (the whole thing probably lasted less than 5 or 6 seconds) and I am sure it was funny as heck to anyone watching but I dropped him back in the cage and went about looking for another way to move him.

I am hoping that my garters do settle down a bit as they get older. I have caught wild ones that were not as bad as my babies now so there is hope.

ssssnakeluvr
06-19-2008, 09:50 PM
My melanistic female is so mellow....the one shot I have of her trying to bite is unusual for her....she was in hibernation when I brought her out for a few quick photos...which she didnt want to do...:rolleyes:

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/medium/mel_head.jpg
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//504/medium/mel_attack.jpg

Scaley.Jade
06-20-2008, 01:02 AM
stunning snake james and very nice pictures of them

adamanteus
06-21-2008, 03:27 PM
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//539/medium/black11.jpg

adamanteus
06-21-2008, 03:27 PM
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//539/medium/black21.jpg